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That's interesting. After so many yrs and being so used to cock on open, I would have thot it better than cock on close.
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I've had a P-14 and two p-17's . I converted two to cock on open. I feel that I made a mistake doing so and would not do it again. Others wanted those actions badly and I figured I'd start over on another.
As I recall there was supposedly another advantage, a better trigger perhaps? It was a few years ago and I honestly don't remember. But I believe the 14 and 17 are best left as is.
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Looks like a modified Enfield action.
If it could just talk...
Nice find.
DF looks like a P-14 action form the action/safety.
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hello Bugger, Thanks for the reply. The trigger pull is actually very good. Its the standard 2-stage trigger at about 4 pounds. Perfect for a Dangerous Game rifle. Detail examination shows that this rifle was originally a P-14 Eddystone. Hello djs. Thanks for the reply. Yes, an Eddystone, based on markings found on the action.
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Looks like a modified Enfield action.
If it could just talk...
Nice find.
DF looks like a P-14 action form the action/safety. Hello dgs, Thanks for the reply. Yes, its built on a P-14 action. I wrote C&H and obtained a Factory Letter on the rifle.
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Hello Huntz,
Thanks for the reply.
No, the bolt was left "cock-on-close". I was told that many PH's liked the P-14's left that way because if you kept the rifle on your shoulder while working the bolt to chamber another round, it was much easier to "push" the bolt forward against the spring tension. Pushing "palm-forward" with the outstretched arm was a more natural action.
However, on rilfes modified to "cock-on-open" you would have your hand "palm-up" on the outstretched arm in an awkward lifting position trying to lift-up against the spring tension.
I have other P-14's modified to "cock-on-open" and I've tried it both ways. I found it true that it is much faster and easier to rapidly aim and work the action while keeping the rifle against your shoulder.
I suppose that this varient of a working rifle that found its way into the hands of Game Department shooters, was used for fast shooting when culling big game animals. I find cock on opening slightly more difficult to work fast from the shoulder. When opening a cock on opening setup, you are fighting to keep the rifle from turning in your hands whereas cock on closing you don't have that and are pushing toward the target when closing, which is more natural to me. Never have understood why people convert Enfields to cock on opening.
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Hello DesertMuleDeer,
Thanks for the reply.
I feel the same way, and for the reasons you mention, I have converted several of my hunting rifles back to cock-on-close.
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