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No one has ever made the claim that evolution was linear. As species evolved into a new and improved models, the inferior ones died off because they couldn't adapt or compete.

We didn't evolve from apes...though related, we're a different species...Just like [bleep] c h i m p a n zees are related but an entirely different species than Gorillas...At some point in the history of planet, we Probably were the same species...we also share genetic DNA with pigs & other mammals. We're in our infancy in figuring it all out, but I suspect that if mankind can survive for another couple thousand years, we'll have a much better grasp on the origins & evolution of life...
BTW, I'm agnostic...so I don't have a dog in the fight of creationism vs. evolution, but in my mind, if man hadn't evolved & adapted, we'd be an extinct species...

I can't believe Rick has C H I M Panzees on his "bleep" list...
Can I still say pussy & cock?


http://www.livescience.com/21196-dolphin-brain-evolution-intelligence.html
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2010/05/03/2887206.htm

I don't view it as a rough draft, but only what we need to know and grow as is best for us, if we are willing, and a little more besides. He provided all I need to know about how He creates: simply by His Spoken Word. Not only does that tell me about Creation, but speaks books about Him. Pun intended.

I don't either, but recognize many conflicts between the Bible and scientists, by their choice. That's becoming a distinction without a difference, as intended which is as I believe.

There is a rather obscure verse in proverbs that says it is to the Glory of God to conceal a thing, and to the glory of kings to search it out. Truly, there will be much revealed to us when we are "face to face", but until that epic moment, I believe He wants us to search out all the truths we can from His Word and His Creation. Those who do, while giving Him the Glory, will be kings in His eyes.


Your post is a good one and my opinions are not meant to argue or contradict but to express or expand a bit more. Have a good day.

It is not an opinion. It is supported by millions of facts and is logically consistent. I believe that the way people should think about this is that God created animals and people using evolution.

The description of creation in the bible is the best that the people who wrote the bible could do without science. I am a believer in: give unto God what is God's and give unto scientists what is science.

Point of order, but Biblical creation is a belief, evolution is a theory.

No proof is necessary to hold a belief, and no amount of proof can disprove it. It need not be consistent, nor logical, nor credible. It just is.

A theory is a postulation of a set of rules, which can then be dis-proven, and subsequently replaced with another set of proposed rules.

It's impossible to NOT BELIEVE in the theory of evolution. It's a theory, not a belief. A person can try to disprove it scientifically, but I've not seen that done yet.

I've seen a direct correlation twixt the radical and vocal support of evolution and the support and belief in the murder of unborn children.

These threads are never not fun!

This is the same kind of science that brought us "Global Warming"or is it "Global Freezing"oh yea its "Climate Change"now.We dont know anything we simply believe.Everybody pick whatever they want and stop saying its a fact.

Yep.

The idea of creation and intelligent design is simply stupid.

The fact that in today's world there are still people that honestly think the earth is only 6000 years old is distressing to say the least.

Look at the ones that think we come from aliens.Everybody has their evidence to back up what they have chosen to believe.They are all faith,just in different things.

Gravity is a theory. You can choose to not believe in it and I encourage anyone to jump off a 10 story building to demonstrate their faith.

I idea that if I let go of something and it will hit the ground is pretty much a fact.The reason for it may be a theory but its happening is fact.I can watch it over and over.

I came in here hoping to see pictures of an attractive lady and here its old dudes arguing points they can't prove and no one will ever agree with them. Leaving saddened.

Exactly! Evolution can be observed in much the same way. For all intents and purposes it is cold hard fact.

No it cant.Who is going to live long enough to watch it.You cant call it a fact.You can tell why you choose to believe it it,so can chicken little(it hit him in the head).

We can see the enormous amount of physical evidence that supports it.

You can believe in anything you want.Chicken little had all the evidence he needed also.You seem to have all the evidence you need,thats fine.Some folks have all the evidence they need to to believe in aliens ect.ect.ect.You seem to think that your evidence should mean the same to everyone else that it means to you,why is that?

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please peruse the .223 AI thread which you will find in the miscellaneous forum at the bottom of the forum list.

There is no shortage of "attractive" ladies there, most of the "old dudes" participating in that discussion may argue at times over the attractiveness of a particular "lady", but they usually find a few to agree on.

You will thank me for this information if you have not already visited that part of our wonderful campfire.

Geno

PS, I hear there are a couple of guys old enough down there to have seen the beginning of evolution. Or if not that old, they were around to edit the first edition of the "Book".

PSS, I may be one of those old guys soon.

To further this discussion,

How do "we" know God is a "he"?

Is there physical evidence to support that line of thinking?

Geno

I believe in evolution a lot more than i believe in a bunch of books that have been translated a ton of times, and by kings who picked out the parts that benefitted them, etc etc. Like it or not, were all probably descended of black ape like african tree dwellers, sometime in the last 1.5 million years or so.