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And the reason we don't see the "Made in the USA" label much, is that we've taxed, regulated, and otherwise priced ourselves out of competition.


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It's been more profitable for a long time. Carrier is not the first and surely won't be the last with the inattention and complicity our government has had in the last forty years.



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I don't think I would want a Carrier A/C unit built in Indianapolis that is made post announcement. Of course the lack of quality and service on the last Carrier unit I bought convinced me to buy Trane going forward - got no idea where they are made.


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine


What to do...tariff the schit out of stuff? I dunno.



Start by creating an enviroment where busniess can manufature and compete In this country.



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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Nothing more than what has been going on since the start of big business... "Restructuring"!

And helped along by "Free Trade" regulations, and more to the lax financial and corporate laws in this country.

Its a large corporation and 1,400 jobs mean little as with any of these large corporations, its about more and more profits for share holders and the unreal salaries and bonuses of those in the upper echelon.

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Profit is the entire point of a business you dumb phugk


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
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Nothing more than what has been going on since the start of big business... "Restructuring"!

And helped along by "Free Trade" regulations, and more to the lax financial and corporate laws in this country.

Its a large corporation and 1,400 jobs mean little as with any of these large corporations, its about more and more profits for share holders and the unreal salaries and bonuses of those in the upper echelon.

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Profit is the entire point of a business you dumb phugk



You mean to tell me people who invest their money in a company should be allowed to get a return on their investment? 🤔 LOL



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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Profit is the entire point of a business you dumb phugk


Exactly. The business of a for profit business is to make a profit. If government makes that too hard then businesses will leave.

“the chief business of the American people is business.” Calvin Coolidge 1925

While that seems like a trite phase. The speech that "Silent Cal" where it came from is really about the newspaper business and how it has to satisfy both masters, profit and public service. It certainly harkens back to when politicians wrote their own speeches and were not slaves to sound bite media. Truly some elegant language. Worth a read if you have a few.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/the-press-under-a-free-government/



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Originally Posted by Pat85
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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Nothing more than what has been going on since the start of big business... "Restructuring"!

And helped along by "Free Trade" regulations, and more to the lax financial and corporate laws in this country.

Its a large corporation and 1,400 jobs mean little as with any of these large corporations, its about more and more profits for share holders and the unreal salaries and bonuses of those in the upper echelon.

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Profit is the entire point of a business you dumb phugk



You mean to tell me people who invest their money in a company should be allowed to get a return on their investment? 🤔 LOL



Amazing concept ain't it.


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Nothing more than what has been going on since the start of big business... "Restructuring"!

And helped along by "Free Trade" regulations, and more to the lax financial and corporate laws in this country.

Its a large corporation and 1,400 jobs mean little as with any of these large corporations, its about more and more profits for share holders and the unreal salaries and bonuses of those in the upper echelon.

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I bet your Union (if you are a member) or yourself are holding stocks and or mutual funds from these corporations.

Obama care
Hiring Laws
EPA
Federal and State Income tax
Unions
[bleep] trade laws, didn't Clinton do Nafta and Obama just did a masterful one as well .

Its not Rocket Science


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A lot of Trane units are made in Tyler,Tx.

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Originally Posted by 12344mag
When it's more profitable for a company to move to Mexico and ship it's wares back we have a problem.

I wonder if Carrier will reduce it's prices on air conditioners?



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It is easy Don't buy Carrier and the next time you buy one of their competitors products write them a nice letter telling them why

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Originally Posted by MadDog4298
Originally Posted by 12344mag
When it's more profitable for a company to move to Mexico and ship it's wares back we have a problem.

I wonder if Carrier will reduce it's prices on air conditioners?



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Where have you been for the last 15 years? Can not beleive there still here.


Don't get your panties in a wad, I'm just pointing out not redacting history.


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Originally Posted by TBREW401
A lot of Trane units are made in Tyler,Tx.


Thats all my brother uses when he builds new homes.

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If they still use copper in the coils I doubt many units will make it to this side of the border.

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Union shops?


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by djs
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I wonder if Carrier will reduce it's prices on air conditioners?


The bigger question is will you continue to buy their products if they raise the price in order to afford the costs of union labor...corporate taxes....and ever increasing government regulations....


You just hit on the three major problems, Question should be "when are we going to fix this problem?"

An FYI, I always buy "Made In USA" when given the choice even if the cost is higher. I believe in this country and it's people and choose to support it and them. I own no foreign guns, I buy American branded cars, ect, ect.

Since United Technologies has chosen to abandon this country except for it's profits the answer is NO, I will no longer buy United Technologies made products.


"Since United Technologies has chosen to abandon this country except for it's profits the answer is NO, I will no longer buy United Technologies made products."

United Technologies is principally an industrial goods producer, not a consumer goods producer. Carrier manufactures one of the few products that UT makes that is sold to consumers and, even the consumer market is a small part of their business (commercial refrigeration is the main portion).

Few consumers buy Otis elevators and escalators, Pratt and Whitney jet engines and turbines, or UTC aerospace systems, so the prospect of a consumer boycott is pretty hollow. Of course, one can get on an elevator, see that it was made by Otis, get off and, walk up 22 floors; but I don't think that will happen; same for airplane engines made by P&W.

I too look for the "Made in USA" label, but am finding it more difficult to find such goods, especially in major chain stores (Home Depot, Lowes, Macy's, Best Buy, etc.). Sad, but true. The American consumer wants less expensive goods. A lower wage sounds good to many consumers until their worker counterpart is told that the company is cutting wages!

Such are the effects of capitalism.


It's well known that you abhor capitalism. You've been a socialist .gov shill and paid whore your entire miserable life, and that has never changed. F'kin' leech.


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by djs
Well, companies that move off-shore are just living in a "self-fulfilling prophecy" world. Unemployed US workers can not buy their products regardless of how less expensive (actually, the companies want to reduce their costs, not their price!).

But then, this is yet another of capitalism. Resources are applied in the most advantageous direction. Washington State gave Boeing a ton of money (tax breaks and infrastructure) to keep production in the state. But, they've shifted jobs to lower production areas (e.g., South Carolina and overseas) anyway.

I wouldn't blame government over-regulation and over-taxing on capitalism. It always amazes me when the ignorant attack the very economic system that allows them to live the life that they do. Show us which system has produced more innovation and created more wealth for more people than capitalism, where we have voluntary redistribution vs big government forced redistribution.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Nothing more than what has been going on since the start of big business... "Restructuring"!

And helped along by "Free Trade" regulations, and more to the lax financial and corporate laws in this country.

Its a large corporation and 1,400 jobs mean little as with any of these large corporations, its about more and more profits for share holders and the unreal salaries and bonuses of those in the upper echelon.

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Typical response from a "no knowledge" dimocrat. It makes you wonder how people like this function with the hatred they constantly carry. Another product of public education that failed to educate.


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You can blame it on government choosing the winners. It's appears that freedom is becoming inconceivable to the vast majority of Americans. Replacing government with government is stupid. The only answer is conservatism and the smaller government that comes with it,.


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