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For those people who think going against Sanders is a walk in the park or think the country would never vote for Socialism... Latest polls on head to head match ups. Everyone beats Clinton except Trump. Everyone loses to Sanders. General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 44, Trump 43 Clinton +1 General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Cruz 46, Clinton 43 Cruz +3 General Election: Rubio vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Rubio 48, Clinton 41 Rubio +7 General Election: Kasich vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Kasich 47, Clinton 39 Kasich +8 General Election: Bush vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 43, Bush 44 Bush +1 General Election: Trump vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Sanders 48, Trump 42 Sanders +6 General Election: Cruz vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Sanders 49, Cruz 39 Sanders +10 General Election: Rubio vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Sanders 47, Rubio 41 Sanders +6 General Election: Kasich vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Sanders 45, Kasich 41 Sanders +4 General Election: Bush vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Sanders 49, Bush 39 Sanders +10
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Yeah, the left threw everything they had at us including the kitchen sink (that would be Hillary in case you can't tell looking at her) just to see how gullible we really are.
I think they'll be pleasantly "surprised".
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The interesting thing of all of this , while given most polls aren't worth the paper they are written on is Kasich scores better against both Democratic possibilities than any of the other possible GOP candidates yet he doesn't seem to have a lot of traction in the Republican race.
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You know how people get real nervous about the idea of doing a Constitutional convention (at the Federal level not an Article 5 convention of the states)? Because even if you think you're safe, there's always that chance that they pass something we all regret giving them the chance to pass? Well, that's how I see Sanders. Part of me wants to have faith in the people and believe that there's no way in Hell they would ever elect a Socialist. The other part of me says "Jesus Christ, what if they did it? Let's not even give them the chance."
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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Oh you have to take Sanders seriously. He's inspired the youth the same as Obama did. And whoever thought BO could win a general election? Much less two!
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Damn, Cruz REALLY gets his azz handed to him against Sanders. Some best re-think their positions.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/General Election: Trump vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 43, Trump 45 Trump +2 General Election: Trump vs. Sanders USA Today/Suffolk Sanders 43, Trump 44 Trump +1 Poll from yesterday. Things are way to volatile to believe in polls that far out. Hell, there are 8 point swings from day to day regarding the general election, which to me is unreliable.
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The country as a whole IS going socialist. Whether that was planned or merely abetted, it is a fact.
People have found that they can vote themselves largesse out of the public funds, so much so that they depend on that largesse and would be afraid to try anything else, so the future is going the way it has for every other democracy or republic there ever was or ever will be.
The left wing socializing (I use that word deliberately) of the young by the schools and particularly the colleges has worked. Their young minds which never knew any differently accept the "fact" that rich people and capitalism are all bad and the government is the savior of mankind and will take care of everybody.
We might stave it off, maybe, for another 4 or 8 years but it's coming just as surely as young people are growing up and old people are dying off.
I'm guessing, as general statements are wont to do, that this will attract the hordes who think these general statements are directed at them personally and so will proclaim THEIR independence and how THEY aren't on the dole and yada yada. And I'm sure there really are lots of folks still like that - old and getting older.
But we and they are outnumbered and our ranks grow smaller with each passing day while theirs grow larger.
Sorry about that.
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In todays America Bernie may be unbeatable. They outnumber us.
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Damn, Cruz REALLY gets his azz handed to him against Sanders. Some best re-think their positions. Not gonna dispute that in this poll Cruz doesn't look good against Sanders. My main point is that we should take this threat of the people voting for Socialism VERY seriously. Because even if we all want to believe it can't happen, it may.
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General Election: Trump vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 43, Trump 45 Trump +2
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders USA Today/Suffolk Sanders 43, Trump 44 Trump +1
Poll from yesterday. Things are way to volatile to believe in polls that far out. Hell, there are 8 point swings from day to day regarding the general election, which to me is unreliable. Thanks, didn't see that one. I agree things are liquid right now. Just pretty disappointed that Sanders is ANYWHERE near even in the polls right now.
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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In todays America Bernie may be unbeatable. They outnumber us. Not really, but we have a LOT,LOT,LOT of stay at homes that won't vote because their own fairhair is not the candidate. THAT has to end!!
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Damn, Cruz REALLY gets his azz handed to him against Sanders. Some best re-think their positions. Not gonna dispute that in this poll Cruz doesn't look good against Sanders. My main point is that we should take this threat of the people voting for Socialism VERY seriously. Because even if we all want to believe it can't happen, it may. Believe me, after the past two presidential elections, I worry! Big Time!
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Believe me, after the past two presidential elections, I worry! Big Time! Exactly, going from a Socialist that jokes about not being a Socialist, to a Socialist who admits he's a Socialist, isn't a big jump.
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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It is probably about social security, Trump and Sanders say they are not changing it, and the candidates that are losing have a plan to change it.
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Once again we are better if Hillary gets the nomination.
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No way a guy like Bernie is this popular if folks weren't fed up with lying politicians. Same with trump.
i don't know that we would be better with pay to play hillary. You are saying you like the prostituted gov we have now. At least Bernie has some integrity.
It doesn't matter anyway....the DNC big shots have already stolen the race from him....the exact thing he complains about
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how can he complain about that?
it's what he wants to do to the rest of us.
steal from those that work and earn, and give to those that do not.
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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