24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 391
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 391
Definitely want the Short Action Model 20....

I hunt whitetails locally here in Tennessee, but also go west for Mule Deer, Elk, and want to go on some Goat and Sheep hunts if I can stay in good enough shape....

I would like a caliber that can be used in all those situations....

I do handload, but have been known to buy premium ammo as well....

I understand the NULA Model 20 was developed around the .284 Winchester. The increased case capacity of the .284 Winchester is good for approx. 150 fps over the 7mm-08 on 140 grain bullets. Is giving up the abundance of brass and premium off-the-shelf ammo of the 7mm-08 worth the extra 150 fps of the .284??

The 7X57 is also a cartridge that will fit in the model 20....is it a worthy consideration??

Should I decide on one of the 6.5's.....Is the .260 Rem, 6.5 Swede, or the 6.5/284 the better choice???

I am open to all ideas and points of view.....The NULA would actually be the lightest if I chose the .308....Thoughts??

I placed my order this morning in 7mm-08, but have some time to change the caliber....

I would love to hear the thoughts of some folks that know more than me on the subject....






HR IC

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306
Likes: 2
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306
Likes: 2
7-08 is the way to go.. Don't change it!


"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,367
P
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
P
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,367
308 would be my choice....


"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274
7mm-08 is tough to argue with, for a Short action, except maybe the 7 WSM. I've bought a couple of obscure calibers in recent years, and brass is a headache. If you go with a caliber like a WSM, I'd buy enough brass to wear out a barrel. smile

FWIW, I found 6.5-284 brass is pretty easy to find, but the parent .284 - not. Guess you could always make .284's from 6.5-284 smile


"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,663
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,663
Just my take, but I wouldn't base the purchase of a NULA around factory ammo offerings. I'd be handloading from the get go and have yet to forget my ammo for a hunt yet. That said, I'd definitely be considering one of the rounds based off the 284 case, with the Original in probably 2nd place. So my order of preference would be:
6.5X284
284
260
7-08

A premium bullet of 140gr at 2900fps, of which the first two will easily do, will cover a lot of hunting bases.

IC B2

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 391
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 391
Originally Posted by pointer
Just my take, but I wouldn't base the purchase of a NULA around factory ammo offerings. I'd be handloading from the get go and have yet to forget my ammo for a hunt yet. That said, I'd definitely be considering one of the rounds based off the 284 case, with the Original in probably 2nd place. So my order of preference would be:
6.5X284
284
260
7-08

A premium bullet of 140gr at 2900fps, of which the first two will easily do, will cover a lot of hunting bases.


Looks as if you prefer the 6.5's to the 7mm....and you feel there is a major or worthwhile increase in performance going to the 284 cartridge based offerings....can you expand on that??

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,278
L
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
L
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,278
I have 4 Nula's plus my son works there as a gunsmith....I prefer the model 20's also. My favorite is my .308 followed by the .260. I had a 6.5X.284 & it really needs a long action to get the best out of it and then you have re invented the .270 whistle
.284 is a good round also (If you hand load)
My son shoots a 7-08

Since elk are in the equation I would say .308, 7-08, & .284 if you hand load.

Lefty C

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,518
G
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
G
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,518
http://bullets.com/products/-284-Winchester-Brass-Cases-100-Count/BL11927

how much 284 brass do you need....norma quality at current 284 winchester brass prices...

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927
1
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
1
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927
It won't matter as much as you think it will

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,515
Likes: 1
R
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
R
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,515
Likes: 1
I have owned M20's and M24's and would get the M24 in either 270 or 30/06.



“Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery. Posted by Brad.
IC B3

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,993
D
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,993
Did Melvin say how long it's going to be to receive your rifle? I ask because between myself and a couple friends we have 3 muzzleloaders and a couple centerfires that were ordered in November and December. I talked to Melvin recently and he mentioned one of his shop guys left and this will put him farther back.

Not sure where you're at in East Tn, but I'm near Chattanooga if you want to try a M24 in 30/06. Not for sale though....

David

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 20,813
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 20,813
Originally Posted by realralfy
Definitely want the Short Action Model 20..

I would like a caliber that can be used in all those situations....

I do handload, but have been known to buy premium ammo as well....




7mm-08 or .308W



laissez les bons temps rouler
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 354
S
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
S
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 354
You don't need any help!!! Ya picked REAL GOOD!!! ScottyO.

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,732
4
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
4
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,732
I'd go 308 but I'm boring like that.

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 391
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 391
Originally Posted by davidsapp
Did Melvin say how long it's going to be to receive your rifle? I ask because between myself and a couple friends we have 3 muzzleloaders and a couple centerfires that were ordered in November and December. I talked to Melvin recently and he mentioned one of his shop guys left and this will put him farther back.

Not sure where you're at in East Tn, but I'm near Chattanooga if you want to try a M24 in 30/06. Not for sale though....

David


David,

I'm just up the road from you in Knoxville....

Sending you a pm....

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,552
A
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,552
If you stick with the Model 20 I would go 308 Win. But I think you should consider a Model 24 in 280 Ackley or 30/06...If you don't like the Ackley just go straight 280 Rem.

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 15,648
Likes: 1
G
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 15,648
Likes: 1
No magnums in model 20...FYI


- Greg

Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,204
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,204
338 Federal with #2 barrel Model 20

Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 9,031
R
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 9,031
65 creedmoor


FJB
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,926
C
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,926
Have you considered a 7mm-08AI ? I would never AI a standard factory tube as the minor gains aren't worth the expense - but if it's all the same cost, there is an extra 50 fps or so over standard loads if you load to same pressure. With a 23" barrel, 75fps over most standard 7mm-08 loads.

What's also interesting is that on a custom tube with a tight chamber (as I would expect the Forbes to be) I still get printed velocities with factory ammunition - despite the fact that these are fire form loads. This gives me the option to shoot slightly higher velocity handloaded AI loads or factory ammunition at standard velocities. I've been very pleased w/ the 7mm-08AI I had built.


Regards,

David

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

476 members (17CalFan, 22kHornet, 222Sako, 160user, 1badf350, 007FJ, 51 invisible), 2,140 guests, and 1,121 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,193,247
Posts18,504,646
Members73,994
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.115s Queries: 55 (0.012s) Memory: 0.9060 MB (Peak: 1.0178 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-11 16:32:13 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS