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Kasich has not performed thus far. I see him gaining zero momentum. If he can't even get the votes of the Republicans, I cannot see him beating the Hillary machine.
Donald had something special going.. but he decided to act like and idiot. Too bad. Can he turn it around? I don't know. I'm sure he is in overdrive trying to figure it out. Most were willing to forgive a multitude of Donald sins, but it got beyond "multitude".
I do see your point though that people will stick with the "safe" Hillary compared to the GOP clown show. If the GOP clown show is scaring people, she would by default be the known, safe vote for many people.
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Only reason Kasich won't win is because Republican's are too stupid not to support him in the primaries... Republicans have had enough of running RINO losers on the ticket to certain defeat in November. That's the exact description of the past two elections that gave us Obama.
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I hate to see corrapse of Tlump.
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I hate to see corrapse of Tlump. What collapse? I would think Florida and Ohio will demonstrate whether there is a collapse or not.
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I hate to see corrapse of Tlump. Yep, it's Flave.
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This is bigger than Frave.
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The Bernie voters really don't like Hillary, and Hillary will be indicted and many of her big donors will flee along with even more support. If she even makes it to the election the numbers of D voters will pale in comparison to recent elections. Barring something unforeseen, any R can win.
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Cruz will be the nominee. Calvin: Do you think so? Trump continues to win delegates and states. If Trump even gets close to the delegates needed the GOP will be gutted for many years to come. Many here on the fire would like to see that. Not me.
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Cruz will be the nominee. Calvin: Do you think so? Trump continues to win delegates and states. If Trump even gets close to the delegates needed the GOP will be gutted for many years to come. Many here on the fire would like to see that. Not me. Not if the conservative gets the nomination...
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Trump would actually have to work at loosing at this point. Rubio has too much baggage waiting to come out...Cruz never had a chance.
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Trump would actually have to work at loosing at this point. Rubio has too much baggage waiting to come out...Cruz never had a chance. Well... maybe. Trump needs 853 delegates out of 1,585 left, or 54% of all remaining delegates. Between Trump, Kasich, Rubio and Cruz so far - Trump has only managed 44%. I think it's a high likelihood that if he can't get those, he doesn't come out as the nominee from a brokered convention.
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Do you thin Cruz would take it in a contested convention, if Trump were only 100 shy and Cruz was 400 back? I would be surprised if Cruz didn't step down at that point.
The RNC can't put in someone who hasn't been in the primary at all, and then awarding it to even second place is outright shady. I think they have to award the nomination to whoever is closest to 1237, if it happens at all, which I doubt.
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Do you thin Cruz would take it in a contested convention, if Trump were only 100 shy and Cruz was 400 back?
The RNC can't put in someone who hasn't been in the primary at all, and then awarding it to even second place is outright shady. I think they have to award the nomination to whoever is closest to 1237, if it happens at all, which I doubt. They don't have to award the nomination to whoever is closest, that's silly. Though it sounds like something Trump would say. They keep voting until somebody gets enough votes to win it. It comes down to which votes are more likely to switch - Trump delegates, or Cruz delegates? And as I understand it, most of the delegate are from the state's Republican party... which means there's probably a good bunch ready to drop Trump as soon as the 3rd vote hits no matter who the other candidate is. Just my opinion.
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This has got to be longest dammed collapse ever!
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I'm not saying it couldn't be done, regarding delegates voting for someone not even in the primary. I'm saying that is the most damaging for the GOP, and I wouldn't be surprised if Cruz rallied behind Trump at that point to prevent RNC funny business.
Maybe just wishful thinking.
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If the rules don't allow non-primary candidates to be introduced AND if those candidates have to win 8 states to even qualify, it's going to be between Cruz and Trump.
Even if Trump doesn't hit the 1237 mark, he might pull in enough from Carson/Kasich/Rubio candidates once they can switch.
Chuckle chuckle chuckle...
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Cruz will be the nominee. Calvin: Do you think so? Trump continues to win delegates and states. If Trump even gets close to the delegates needed the GOP will be gutted for many years to come. Many here on the fire would like to see that. Not me. Not if the conservative gets the nomination... A conservative?? Define that for us! Married 2x or 3x? Pro abortion or ???? If you are referring to Cruz well that dog don't hunt because his entire party hates him and the Dems just laugh at him. Hell lets just shud down the government a few more times, that proved so successful last time and the time before that and the time before that.
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Cruz will be the nominee. Calvin: Do you think so? Trump continues to win delegates and states. If Trump even gets close to the delegates needed the GOP will be gutted for many years to come. Many here on the fire would like to see that. Not me. Not if the conservative gets the nomination... A conservative?? Define that for us! Married 2x or 3x? Pro abortion or ???? If you are referring to Cruz well that dog don't hunt because his entire party hates him and the Dems just laugh at him. Hell lets just shud down the government a few more times, that proved so successful last time and the time before that and the time before that. And R's kept taking seats from D's........
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