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this is a hunting forum right? hunters normally shoot guns right? We have various forums about guns, and various equipment related to firearms here right? with all that said why would you hate the one person who HAS actually done something to protect the second amendment?Trump has had past positions supporting limits on fireams and assault weapons, he is from new york and was raised differently when it comes to guns that most of us here.

I would think of all people the ones here would be smart enough to reconcile the differences. Just about everything trump is saying Cruz was acting on and doing before trump was even in the race. If your a tump person you should be thinking GREAT, we most likely get trump and if that fails we get cruz. I just don't get it.


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why the hate for Cruz here?


Because Cruz has been the only adversary trump has had.

And he stands directly in the way of the magic number of 1267.


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No hate; just think its important people know that he is the establishment's anti-establishment candidate.

I don't hate anyone in the race except Hil. Even Bernie seems like a nice guy, kinda like a senile grandpa, sweet but misguided.

Ted seems more cut out as a televangelist than President IMHO.

And I have no love for anyone in the race either, which IMO is offering the absolute worst group of candidates I can remember.

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Agreed ... no hate. There is enough to dislike about every single candidate to justify voting against them. One of them will win anyway.

So ... pick your bitter pill and choke it down.

Hillary **has** to be beaten. I'll take any of the devils I don't know over the one I've seen and do know.

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Trump supporters don't care...they want an outsider in the drivers seat regardless of what his past positions have been...At first he had me fooled, but after actually listening to everything he had to say it appeared he's only in it for more power & influence...At times, he can be quite articulate & eloquent, but when faced with questions for which he doesn't have a prepared response, he flounders because he doesn't actually believe in most of what he says...

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I do not dislike Cruz.I just think it is a wasted vote and besides we have now been told by The RNC that "THEY PICK THE DELEGATE"!


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I don't hate him.

To me he just comes across as a greasy, preachy, condescending, booger eater.

I went off him long ago, when he held folks hostage all night, reading Dr Seuss.


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I'm voting against Hillary, period.

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No hate here. He is a true conservative unlike Trump who is only pretending to get elected.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
this is a hunting forum right? hunters normally shoot guns right? We have various forums about guns, and various equipment related to firearms here right? with all that said why would you hate the one person who HAS actually done something to protect the second amendment?Trump has had past positions supporting limits on fireams and assault weapons, he is from new york and was raised differently when it comes to guns that most of us here.

I would think of all people the ones here would be smart enough to reconcile the differences. Just about everything trump is saying Cruz was acting on and doing before trump was even in the race. If your a tump person you should be thinking GREAT, we most likely get trump and if that fails we get cruz. I just don't get it.


A better question,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Why the hate PERIOD. It's the same posters time and time again. I don't give a rat's ass who you vote for as long as you vote and believe in the person you vote for. Some here, I'm thinking, just want to see their names up in lights. So here is my offering.

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If you've watched Trump's campaign style, the "hate" for Cruz is just the same.

Demonize those who are in your way, throw as many nasty labels at them that you can and hope some stick, and never engage in discussion of issues.

The next time some conservative issue is actually at stake in Congress they'll love him just like always and deny that they ever said anything bad about him.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
I don't hate him.

To me he just comes across as a greasy, preachy, condescending, booger eater.

I went off him long ago, when he held folks hostage all night, reading Dr Seuss.



I actually sent him a small check for his effort...read a little bit on the how & why...maybe it'll change your cynical opinion of him... http://nypost.com/2013/09/25/cruz-vows-to-speak-till-he-cant-against-obamacare/

ETA: It was called "The Green Eggs & Ham" filibuster...the man has class...

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why the hate for Cruz here?


Because Cruz has been the only adversary trump has had.

And he stands directly in the way of the magic number of 1267.

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It's 1237 you big fat Cruz supportin' liar.


The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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Send him some of your tart cherry enemas.

Flush out the gerbils.


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I don't hate him, but he's always impressed me as someone who is very false.

I wasn't going to vote for him before, but when Cruz came out and said that it was Trump's fault that those Communists rioted at Trump's rally in Chicago, I knew that I was correct about Cruz

He chose to play politics with the situation instead of calling out the Communists for what they are.


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I don't hate Cruz but to me he comes across as a cross between a Possum Pussed Policy Wonk and a Glad Handing Used Car Salesman or Tv Preacher. Just something slimy about him.


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For the last 7 years I've listened to people whine and complain about o bongo, and his disregard for the law, for the constitution, the rule of law, and let a guy come along who is extremely conservative, respects the law, the rule of law, fights for their gun rights in the supreme court. Has fought his own party in public, and they don't like the way he looks or the way he talks??? I voted in the primary for Cruz, I send money pretty much weekly, as I can. We have to beat the D's.

Republicans eat their own. They have no idea if Trump is going to be the best thing since sliced bread. Rush says "people don't remember what you say they remember how you make them feel." Trump makes people feel good because he claims he's going to punish the people who have been bad in government by cutting deals with him.
He could be an o bongo lite who is a major narcissist, he doesn't understand the law (with the exception of contract law), he doesn't seem to understand the rule of law, he doesn't understand the roles of the congress and supreme court, they don't know but he makes them feel good. He is a television personality that they think they know and they like him personally. But all they know is the television personality. I think his negatives are way to high to beat klinton. When the polls change fine. And I've said he he wins the primary he will have my vote. But he won't be my preference. Too much unknown about him, and too much he doesn't know.


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Cruz has a solid economic plan, solid supporter of the constitution, cooks bacon on a AR, eats booger like a boss, I'm voting for him.

Yup he's preachy and bit annoying, but everyone in DC hates him so he's pretty solid in my book.


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No hate; just think its important people know that he is the establishment's anti-establishment candidate.

What? Is that double-double talk? It's actually nonsense of the highest order to suggest Cruz is establishment in any degree, except he was elected to a Senate established by the Constitution.

I don't hate anyone in the race except Hil. Even Bernie seems like a nice guy, kinda like a senile grandpa, sweet but misguided.

They probably said that about Lenin, too. He's a frigging commie who's never had a real job.

Ted seems more cut out as a televangelist than President IMHO.

Trite is all that is. Other than nonsense and a dozen other words like ludicrous, childish, and so forth.

And I have no love for anyone in the race either, which IMO is offering the absolute worst group of candidates I can remember.

Really!?! How far does your memory go back? Are you on Alzheimer meds? With the exception of one or two, this was the most solid field of good to great candidates in my memory. Would you have preferred someone like Romney, or McCain, or Dole, or W, or Bush the elder, or Nixon, maybe Goldwater?? How far back should we go? The only one who was even close to an effective President in that era by comparision was Reagan and he's over rated.

I believe some just can't be satisfied with those we would have been delighted to have over obama because America's mind has truly snapped. Read the book and weep. The Snapping of the American Mind.




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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
I don't hate him.

To me he just comes across as a greasy, preachy, condescending, booger eater.

I went off him long ago, when he held folks hostage all night, reading Dr Seuss.



I actually sent him a small check for his effort...read a little bit on the how & why...maybe it'll change your cynical opinion of him... http://nypost.com/2013/09/25/cruz-vows-to-speak-till-he-cant-against-obamacare/

ETA: It was called "The Green Eggs & Ham" filibuster...the man has class...




Those aren't my opinions. Those are things he has demonstrated.


If he had class, he could have read something far better than Green Eggs & Ham.

Had he read some Elmer Keith, or Jeff Cooper, I might think better of him.

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