this is a hunting forum right? hunters normally shoot guns right? We have various forums about guns, and various equipment related to firearms here right? with all that said why would you hate the one person who HAS actually done something to protect the second amendment?Trump has had past positions supporting limits on fireams and assault weapons, he is from new york and was raised differently when it comes to guns that most of us here.

I would think of all people the ones here would be smart enough to reconcile the differences. Just about everything trump is saying Cruz was acting on and doing before trump was even in the race. If your a tump person you should be thinking GREAT, we most likely get trump and if that fails we get cruz. I just don't get it.

Because Cruz has been the only adversary trump has had.

And he stands directly in the way of the magic number of 1267.

No hate; just think its important people know that he is the establishment's anti-establishment candidate.

I don't hate anyone in the race except Hil. Even Bernie seems like a nice guy, kinda like a senile grandpa, sweet but misguided.

Ted seems more cut out as a televangelist than President IMHO.

And I have no love for anyone in the race either, which IMO is offering the absolute worst group of candidates I can remember.

Agreed ... no hate. There is enough to dislike about every single candidate to justify voting against them. One of them will win anyway.

So ... pick your bitter pill and choke it down.

Hillary **has** to be beaten. I'll take any of the devils I don't know over the one I've seen and do know.

Tom

Trump supporters don't care...they want an outsider in the drivers seat regardless of what his past positions have been...At first he had me fooled, but after actually listening to everything he had to say it appeared he's only in it for more power & influence...At times, he can be quite articulate & eloquent, but when faced with questions for which he doesn't have a prepared response, he flounders because he doesn't actually believe in most of what he says...

I do not dislike Cruz.I just think it is a wasted vote and besides we have now been told by The RNC that "THEY PICK THE DELEGATE"!

I don't hate him.

To me he just comes across as a greasy, preachy, condescending, booger eater.

I went off him long ago, when he held folks hostage all night, reading Dr Seuss.

I'm voting against Hillary, period.

No hate here. He is a true conservative unlike Trump who is only pretending to get elected.

A better question,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Why the hate PERIOD. It's the same posters time and time again. I don't give a rat's ass who you vote for as long as you vote and believe in the person you vote for. Some here, I'm thinking, just want to see their names up in lights. So here is my offering.

If you've watched Trump's campaign style, the "hate" for Cruz is just the same.

Demonize those who are in your way, throw as many nasty labels at them that you can and hope some stick, and never engage in discussion of issues.

The next time some conservative issue is actually at stake in Congress they'll love him just like always and deny that they ever said anything bad about him.

I actually sent him a small check for his effort...read a little bit on the how & why...maybe it'll change your cynical opinion of him... http://nypost.com/2013/09/25/cruz-vows-to-speak-till-he-cant-against-obamacare/

ETA: It was called "The Green Eggs & Ham" filibuster...the man has class...

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It's 1237 you big fat Cruz supportin' liar.

Send him some of your tart cherry enemas.

Flush out the gerbils.

I don't hate him, but he's always impressed me as someone who is very false.

I wasn't going to vote for him before, but when Cruz came out and said that it was Trump's fault that those Communists rioted at Trump's rally in Chicago, I knew that I was correct about Cruz

He chose to play politics with the situation instead of calling out the Communists for what they are.

I don't hate Cruz but to me he comes across as a cross between a Possum Pussed Policy Wonk and a Glad Handing Used Car Salesman or Tv Preacher. Just something slimy about him.

For the last 7 years I've listened to people whine and complain about o bongo, and his disregard for the law, for the constitution, the rule of law, and let a guy come along who is extremely conservative, respects the law, the rule of law, fights for their gun rights in the supreme court. Has fought his own party in public, and they don't like the way he looks or the way he talks??? I voted in the primary for Cruz, I send money pretty much weekly, as I can. We have to beat the D's.

Republicans eat their own. They have no idea if Trump is going to be the best thing since sliced bread. Rush says "people don't remember what you say they remember how you make them feel." Trump makes people feel good because he claims he's going to punish the people who have been bad in government by cutting deals with him.
He could be an o bongo lite who is a major narcissist, he doesn't understand the law (with the exception of contract law), he doesn't seem to understand the rule of law, he doesn't understand the roles of the congress and supreme court, they don't know but he makes them feel good. He is a television personality that they think they know and they like him personally. But all they know is the television personality. I think his negatives are way to high to beat klinton. When the polls change fine. And I've said he he wins the primary he will have my vote. But he won't be my preference. Too much unknown about him, and too much he doesn't know.

Cruz has a solid economic plan, solid supporter of the constitution, cooks bacon on a AR, eats booger like a boss, I'm voting for him.

Yup he's preachy and bit annoying, but everyone in DC hates him so he's pretty solid in my book.


Sen. Ted Cruz Dismantles Assault Weapons Ban at Gun Control Hearing

Those aren't my opinions. Those are things he has demonstrated.


If he had class, he could have read something far better than Green Eggs & Ham.

Had he read some Elmer Keith, or Jeff Cooper, I might think better of him.

I voted Cruz.

No hate for Cruz. Its not the right time for him. Many Cruzers don't get it. The time is to take the very person personified by Trump and use him to blow up the GOP and Washington. Cruz cannot do that because he is an "insider" too.
We don't criticize Cruz for not being conservative, he is more of that than Trump.
Except Cruz doesn't have the correct temperament to do what has to be done.
We need someone who is willing to have sharp elbows and a sharp tongue to rip the entrenched stagnant cabal of self centered, self righteous, career driven politicians from their pillars of power.
Cruz cannot do that. We need someone with no history, links, zip code or area code to come in and introduce the politicians to what "scorched earth" means.
If Trump fails to win or perform as we think he can, than we are finished.
We are 90% there anyway, with nothing to lose. Hildabeast will finish the job if she wins.

Now, do you get it? No animosity, just raw sentiment.

I voted for Cruz, not because I like his looks or the way he can preachy


but for the balls he's had while in Congress and his strong conviction about our Constitution.


I'm the fing kiss of death for a canidate.

I should have made Kaisch my guy, or that fat blowhard Christie.


but I'm gonna vote for whomever ain't Hilary

You hope. That's all you can do with Trump because he's never proven a thing you suggest. And all of DC loves him because they get lots and lots of money from him so they can do his bidding. He tells you that over and over. Haven't you been paying attention?

2 things. First, I believe Trump is the only one that can beat Hillary. I think the rest (including Cruz) will fall to the way side when she plays the "woman" card. Secondly I know "died in the wool" Obama lovers who will vote for Trump. Any other republican and they will vote for Hillary. Myself, any republican gets my vote as should be the case of anyone that likes guns.

Cruz should have stood up for the first amendment instead of saying that Trump brought the riot on himself.

There's a fairly serious cultural war going on in America. We need a President who will take a stand.

Cruz has demonstrated that it's not him.

+1

He also tried hard to pass amnesty, i.e., to make the millions of illegals in the US legal. Then he lied about it when running for the presidency. Hard to forgive that.

,...and he was one of the big advocates for Obamatrade,..and now claims that he wasn't.

You must be joking or woefully uninformed. Bernie is an avowed socialist that would institute sweeping measures faster than H. The guy is a student of Alinsky and Soros. He would turn the US into a second rate Venezuela.
Sweet? Well ok, if you think Che Guevara was too.
God save us!

Well that is better than no excuse. It's a poor one none the less and I'm sure it's the best you can do trying to be nice, but poor none the less.

I think Trump dropped out of the last debate, because as one fox personality said, he knows so little about policy, and how things work he has trouble filling his minute and 15 seconds. If he's in the same room with Cruz, debating anything it will be obvious how little he does know.

I see all sorts of vile here about cruz from trump people. if your being rational at best trump is a wild card. YES if he steam rolls everyone and does what he has said in the campaign then GREAT. how can trump supporters reconcile his past statements??? if you support trump how do you explain 4 contributions to hillary for president? do you think she will not bring that up later? what about everything else that he has said that we actually have video of? that is why trump is a wild card. we simply can't know for sure what he will actually do.

cruz has a history of doing everything major on trumps list before he ran for president. I take the guy that has done the same before, during and now as a better bet on what the future will be.

trump people your probably getting trump, and if you don't you get Cruz. stop the shat storm! you win either way.

Except you forget one important fact. The GOP hates Cruz more than Trump. Read it again.
Trumps past statements have little merit because he was not running nor was he a politician.
Cruzers and others are judging him by the same political standards we use for politicians. That isn't legitimate for someone who never held office. I know its hard to accept but its the fact. Look at his poll numbers............

Nice?

I'm not trying to be nice.

Cruz said exactly the same thing as Rachel Maddow about those people who rioted.

I don't want Rachel Maddow or anyone who agrees with her to be President.

Now he's hooked up with Lindsey Graham, for Pete's sake.

I don't know what else you Cruz people need to see. He's one mess after the other.

so isn't that a good thing?

It depends on why.

My hands are too big for the keyboard sometimes.

It's a problem you guys with small hands wouldn't understand...

So, then, in your opinion Obama and Holder and the rest aren't in the slightest responsible for any of the unrest in the last few years because they were just exercising their 1st Amendment rights? So the whole Trevon Martin and Baltimore and Ferguson.. the Obama administration bears zero responsibility for it just like Trump bears zero responsibility?

Just making sure this is your stance, because I seem to remember a few statements over the last few years where you seemed to have an opinion slightly different than that.

I honestly don't think Cruz would stand a better chance to win the white house than McCain or Romney. He can't attract different voters or gain more states in my opinion.

I've always voted for the most conservative choice, but with talking to friends and other like minded voters I realized that Ted just wasn't going to get the numbers that he needed to win. He has a used car salesman vibe that turns some people away.

Cruz is da man for the job

I've never said that people aren't responsible for their own actions.

Its not him...



its me.

those people out there saying that cruz can't win, how do your reconcile that trump has only got at best about %40 of the primary vote? you do understand that in a heads up race against cruz polls have shown Cruz wins?

look electablity is a factor. i think the case for that could be made if trump was getting more than half the vote. He has the biggest negatives of anyone every to receive the nomination. if electability is your concern how do you deal with that fact.

cruz probably wins this if kasich leaves the race.

I hate Cruz because of his donations to PP, hiLIARy, Reid, and all the other liberals and their causes.

Uh-oh. Wait a sec here.

Nevermind, I was thinking of someone else.

Cruz is my ideal candidate. But I'm also a realist and realize that a slim majority of Americans are morons and would rather be enslaved on the govt plantation than be free and find their own way. When you put Cruz up against someone like Hitlery or even Bernie, that slim majority will vote for their free stuff every time.

Trump on the other hand is drawing away votes from Hitlery and there are free-stuff voters supporting Trump.

You sure are full of anxiety and anger aren't you?

You do know we have a King who nominates (w/o advise & consent from ANYONE) Presidents don't you?

Loosen up. It isn't the end of the world, and it isn't worth hating anyone over.

Say and mean the serenity prayer.

Bottom line is, they hate Cruz cuz Donald Trump told them to. Wasn't that long ago that people here were saying they'd be happy with either one. Then Trump started telling everyone, "He's a really nasty guy. No one likes him. He lies more than anyone I've ever known."

Then like good little lemmings, Trumpkins started piling on. They simply do as they're told.

SERENITY NOW!

For those concerned about the hate for Cruz, why don't you start by asking the GOP party? The party who demanded a "no third party" run at the first debate.
The party who just had another meeting today with Eric Erikson of REDSTATE on how to unseat Trump - which will become Cruz if need be.

Super Tuesday #2 was the start of a not so silent nor shielded revolution within the GOP. The elites do not have a clue on what to do. They certainly are willing to usurp the will of the people who attended 30+ primaries and caucuses to date.

You Cruzzies argue like little liberal girls.

Can't be any legitimate criticism of the Cruzer, gotta label it "hate" like good little liberals.

Had you ladies any imagination, you'd have labelled it Cruzeraphobia by now.

Same old, same old.

BTW, the Cruzer lost.

Ha! Great quote!!

what is the legitimate criticism of cruz? I asked this weeks ago, the question was, what specifically has cruz lied about, no one had anything that was legitimate, somoene said something about ben carson, what the cruz campaign did was actually true.

Do yourself a favor, and give up on the CPR.

The patient's dead.

I don't like him because he smiles and giggles like a pedophile at a carnival. Is that good enough reason?

You are ignoring the legitimate criticism because you are blinded by your allegiance. Why don't you ask the GOP first?

Yes they did. You just won't read it.

Cruz is the only one still in the race that can win in November. The only people who don't admit he can still win are those who desperately don't want him to win, including his liberal competition and those inside the beltway.

Yeah, his campaign has been full of dirty tricks, his campaign manager had to resign, and he's running as a hard right evangelical. It just doesn't add up with too many of us when there are other choices.

I also think a Cruz administration would result in gridlock when we really need changes in policy at the federal level regarding trade and immigration at the very least.

That is patently unsubstantiated. But why are you posting? You said you were all done with trying to educate the morons here!

Why was Eric Erickson from Red State chairing a meeting today in D.C. (hah!)
trying to figure which conservative to pick for a possible 3rd party run?

I said I wasn't gonna talk about the other guy. That's your job. Tell us all about him. I promise not to interrupt you. There has to be some way you can promote your candidate other that trying to bring the others down to his level.

Those are his good traits!!!

I have numerous times but you are too blinded to read. You flap your keyboard without reading what others are saying. Go ask the GOP why they are considering a 3rd party run with a "real conservative"!

Cruz is a lawyer and politician, so of course he lies. The thing that bothers me is that he does it while holding up the Bible telling us how Christian he is. The hypocrisy is unbearable.

I also get sick of listening to him harp on the fact that Trump only has 35% of the republican vote, so he can't win. Well guess what moron(Cruz), you have a smaller percentage than that, so your argument is pointless.

When this process started, Cruz was one of three that I was considering, now I hope that he gets appointed to the Supreme Court.

BTW, Glenn Beck is not helping Cruz with anyone I know.

Why?
Because his followers are as fanatical as Seahawks fans, or worse.

No, I don't care. This thread is about Cruz.

Cruz needs 87% of the remaining delegates, that ain't happening. The GOP will most likely blowup their own confab and lose the election. The GOP lied to and betrayed their base for many years. Now that the voters have figured it out and are taking charge, the GOP elites have come unglued because things aren't going their way.

Cruz is more suited to a SCOTUS seat.

Well you said something truthful - you don't care. You can't have tunnel vision and post cogent statements.

Cruz cannot win the GOP nomination unless he makes a deal with the people he claims to be running against....the GOP Establishment.

Those rumblings have already begun.

He cannot beat Trump one on one. This is fact so far.

It's less than 87%. Why don't all you angry people go talk to each other? We're weary of lies. I promise not to follow you around and scream.

When have they been "one on one" that you get your fact from?

Maybe. Got projection?

Here, do the math - its 87% of the remaining delegates to win. The sooner you face reality the better you will feel. I will support whomever the GOP nominee is - will you do that???


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...asich-republican-delegate-lead.html?_r=0

You are the one who is angry! Both angry and obstinate, unwilling to face reality.
Remember after all of this, Hillary is the odds on favorite to win anyway.

The math has already been done...real math, not made up math. Just quit. I'm not gonna lower myself to acting like you guys anymore. I'm sorry that you ever drug me into the gutter. No more.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...f-remaining-delegates-to-win-nomination/

interesting comments

Every fooking primary election.

And the Cruzer lost 26 outta thirty.

Bless your heart. I'll pray for you guys.

He fights one hell of a fight, against air. He knows going in that he can't win, but he gives the locals a good show. It's never not fun to watch.


It's also perfect to give the illusion of 'I fought against XYZ'

Cruz fans are like whack a mole around here

one finally calms down and then another pops up and takes his place

Whack away. It's what you guys do best.

This. And, Cruz ain't the alternative.

He's one of them. The one that can actually beat her.

Yes to the first; no to the second. Which battleground state does he win against her? The answer: none.

Pure speculation by the opposition. I already addressed that.

In the popular vote, maybe, but that isn't what elects a POTUS. I've been a Cruzbot forever, I voted for him in the primary, but this election will be decided in Appalachia and the Rust Belt. 4ager said that months ago and he's right. Trump can pull that off, Cruz maybe not.

As is my wont, I'll REALLY step on some toes here as say that there is a fairly direct correlation among the Cruz/anti-Cruz crowd as it relates to their spiritual condition. That is, who's washed in the blood, and who ain't.

I'll let y'all sort out who's who.

I think he's the best of the field. I voted for him in TN.

here you do the math http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html

ok this finally does it, if simple math is beyond the average trump supporter. there is no arguing it. your simply ill rational

for the record no one did come forward with anything cruz lied about that they could prove. the ben carson deal is bogus, They just reported what was reported already on the news, in fact cruz made a mistake to apologize for it.

all right trump dill rods, THE DELEGATE COUNT REMAINING IS NOT 90% OR EVEN 87%, its actually closer to about 75% further Cruz will win utah, and likely arizona, the race takes a 2 week break after that. alot can happen in that time.

good god ...thats what Rachel madcow said on MSNBC !!!! Wtf he was reading a book to his kids at their bedtime..man are we/is this country f-ed

this, that's where he lost my support

If you're full blown retard enough to equate MontanaMarine to Madcow then there ain't much hope for you. God bless...

My democrat "friends" in this loony state have confided on more than one occasion that they are more afraid of Trump than Cruz. Here is what they say. Cruz is rigid (while not all bad) whereby Trump will use his temperament and presence to win the debate. Cruz is predictable while Trump is unorthodox and unpredictable.
They are afraid that Trump will overwhelm Hillary in a one on one debate.
Hillary has a political history and shady dealings, which gives Trump a target rich environment. Trump has a business record to debate which doesn't have political coat tails.

Bottom line is they'd rather face Cruz at the ballot box than Trump.

FWIW - there you have it.

That's anti-Cruz hatred

The difference between Trump supporters and Cruz supporters:

Trump supporters know what he is and support Trump anyway.

Cruz supporters don't know what Cruz is.

The RCP tally is not correct. Other sites are reporting that Trump has 699 delegates not 673. The delay in delegate numbers is due to congressional vote tally in Illinois, which had 5 and Missouri which had 16, So your simple math is incorrect.
But thanks for trying your very best.

It's like some are obsessed or possessed, like a religious fanatic, and they can't stop, or help it.

In a way it is sad to watch.
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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/03/eric-margolis/trump-peoples-tribune/

Palm Beach, Florida – Having an interesting dinner at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate and residence – which may become the southern White House if fed-up American voters have their way.

One feels an air of whispered importance and gravitas here. After Trump’s smashing primary victories this past week, there’s a growing sense that the Donald is headed for victory while his legions of bitter opponents are left wringing their hands.

In fact, Trump is fast emerging as an American version of the People’s Tribunes of ancient Rome, the important state officials who voiced the people’s anger and concerns.

As the Trump revolution spreads, his enemies are desperately seeking ways to stop the Donald’s Juggernaut. Cries go to the heavens, “save the Republican Party before Trump wrecks it.”
As a life-long (but now fallen away) Republican, I say “good riddance”. More power to Trump to blast apart this deeply corrupt, cynical party steeped in political payoffs and religious fanaticism, and run by former used car dealers from Pocatello.

Many moons ago, I even began a run for Congress from my native New York City but was horrified to see the creatures that scuttled below the city’s political rocks. A senior party official who was also a prison guard advised me: “son, only two types of people go into politics. Those with no money like me; and those from rich families who do it for their egos.”

The Clintons are a perfect example of the former, two local Arkansas politicians who made millions by peddling influence. Trump fits the second category. He is a rough, tough, uncultured but wealthy New Yorker whose family there dates from the 1880’s when the city was the third largest German city in the world after Berlin and Hamburg.

Readers keep asking me what I think of Trump. My view: he is the worst of the candidates – except all the others.

Trump’s vows to expel 11 million illegal aliens is likely unworkable; his Great Wall on the Mexican border sounds like Pharaonic madness – except that all of its critics have no problem with Israel walling itself off from the Arab world.

The proposed banning of Muslims from the US is a disgusting ploy that plays to America’s low IQ red necks and far right religious conservatives and drags America’s name through the mud of bigotry and ignorance. Trump has very much to learn about the Muslim world.

But Trump is right on target when he calls for an even-handed approach to resolving the Arab-Israeli struggle. By daring to utter the term “even-handed,” Trump sent the US Israel lobby into a fury, touching the third rail of US politics. Compare Trump’s sensible Mideast position to that of Rubio, Cruz, Kasich and Clinton who got on their knees to pledge allegiance to Israel.

After investing tens of millions in buying up the US Congress and influencing media, the pro-Israel neocon war party now sees its huge investment jeopardized and its power under attack. If Trump has his way, US Mideast policy will be written in Washington, not Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Billions of overt and secret US aid to Israel could be jeopardized.

In a big shock, Trump has reportedly called for the deeply flawed investigation on the 9/11 attacks to be reopened. The neo-con are going ballistic.

Right on cue, several dozen Republican foreign policy ‘experts,’ many from the Bush era, blasted Trump as ‘unfit’ to be president. These were the same idiots who championed the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the greatest foreign policy disaster in modern US history.

Following the warnings of that great German-American, Dwight Eisenhower, Trump says he intends to end the current foolish confrontation with Russia that was engineered by the neocons and arms industry and deal with Russia as an equal. No more imperial foreign wars. The military-industrial complex and the war party are up in arms.

Trump’s third target is Wall Street, and rightly so. New York’s bankers and financiers have bought Congress. Now, Trump questions the shameful tax break that Wall Street got its yes-men in Congress to write. The bankers want Trump’s head. He’s a class traitor, they moan.

Finally, Trump’s threats to undo trade deals and manufacturing displacement are music to the working classes’ ears. This writer, a former businessman, has always held executives who throw tens of thousands out of work and move manufacturing abroad to be knaves and even criminals.

Today, manufacturing in the US has fallen to only 12% of economic activity while finance has risen to 20%. Wall Street’s money lenders have kept the nation addicted to debt and wars. Trump might challenge this money oligarchy that has grown fabulously rich while the rest of America stagnates and lives from paycheck to paycheck.

Hillary Clinton has her armies of welfare recipients. Trump, so far, has armies of angry Americans.

wrong again, cruz has 411 delegates, even according to your numbers there are 1059 delegates left. so that means cruz needs about 77% look if you can't do math don't bother arguing with me on how great trump is you don't know the difference. cruz has utah in the bag, the other candidates have conceded it to cruz. in fact cruz is only doing 2 rallys on saturday one for him and the other for mike lee. I still think cruz will win arizona with the race down to whos left in it. the race takes 2 weeks off, thats actually a pretty long time relatively speaking.

Trump will win AZ.

Kent

And Rubio's campaign suspension now has Trump's NY polling numbers at around 64% to Cruz's 12-17%.

Not only have a significant portion of Rubio voters gone to Trump, today's headlines caution of union leadership freaking out over it's membership's favoritism towards Trump.

It's New York Bob.

They went with the moderate candidate first.

With him gone, they are going full blown liberal.

Trump's numbers in NY jumped over 12% since Rubio's departure.

His firm stance on transferring federal lands is far from "hunter friendly". One such as you should understand how fast some (most?) state governments will have large chunks of that land for sale. Where are you going to hunt coyotes once Chris Robinson or the Church own most of the West Desert?

His stance on this isn't the only reason but the biggest reason I will not vote for him.

Why don't you post that "stance", instead of just throwing bullshit at the wall and hoping it sticks?

I voted for Cruz in our primary but I am fine it Trumo wins the nomination. I will support Buggs Bunny over hillary clinton. We had better get unified or we will deliver her the Oval Office on a silver platter.

Your his fan not I. You post it. I would love to see you post proof that he is not wanting to transfer federal lands. Might want to start with his speech in Jackson,WY then move to his campaigning/commercials in NV and ID...

I didn't think so.

Are you saying his platform is to not transfer federal lands out of federal ownership/management?

I'm not saying anything, you are. I know exactly what his platform is.

you just won't tell anyone else

I am more than comfortable with my understanding of it as well. And I do not like it and will not vote for him largely because of it.

I think there is some concern about this whole idea of taking pride that Cruz refused to work with republicans while a Senator - never mind congress in general

I'm not sure how that translates to him being an effective president.

If Congress hates him and won't support what he does, is Cruz just going to bully his way into getting things done?

One of things people on here hate most about Obama is his liberal use of executive actions and his refusal to negotiate with congress - but isn't that going to be the same thing that Cruz will have to do if he is president.

You really see everyone /anyone in congress backing Cruz as president that didn't back him as a Senator?

I have my doubts about how much Trump can get done, but I'm not the least bit concerned when he says he's can work with these people - because Trump isn't going to negotiate a losing deal, he'll walk away first - but he has a history of being a tough negotiator.

The risk is assuming he'll negotiate on our behalf

but that risk is the same with any candidate you elect.

Sometimes not negotiating is the right thing to do. When you have nothing to gain, it's always the right thing.

Hey what happened to your promise not to post about politics? Are you are trustworthy as the RNC?

so Cruz's presidency will be defined by not accomplishing anything?

Thats similar to the argument here regarding Cruz as Senator

"What did Cruz do as a Senator"

"Duh, he didn't do ANYTHING, that's the point and why I'm voting for him!"

Crews is a rhino, has been part of the problem for 8 years. Besides he hates guns and hunting.

Besides he hates guns and hunting.
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Good lord!

It's gonna be interesting to replay this thread a year or two from now and see if everybody feels the same. I sure hope we don't have any regrets over who we supported.............

that's the benefit of backing a loser

you get to sit from the sidelines and tell everyone how great it could have been

Cruz has a platform. He is not everything to everybody. That's the other guy. Enjoy.

Anybody who goes from a state solicitor general, to first term senator, to a presidential candidate in a little more than a decade at the age of 45 or so is on the make. That means that whatever he has done is not the natural progression of a successful career and all that, but a conscious strategy to arrive at this point. That means that all of his actions have to be viewed in that light.

When he was elected to the Senate no one outside of Texas or Washinton, where he was already known from his time in the Bush administration, knew who he was. His every action from that point forward was one designed to put him in the spotlight and raise his profile.

No 'hate' here.
He has been one of my picks all along[just not my #1].

I'll also point out that the career trajectory to this point of Ted Cruz is very similar to that of Obama. State office for a few years, the Senate for a term, and then run for president.

Whether you like it or not, NY votes count too. Every other candidate got to include the votes from their home state.

What is very obvious at this point is that Trump gathers up voters more than the remaining candidates when someone drops out of the race. He gained more support from Bush voters than Rubio did, and Rubio was a Bush twin on policy.

The public is backing the winner when the winner takes out "their guy".

But this is a point where we have a lot to gain. Trade, immigration, boarder security, income mobility/income stagnation, gov't/business corruption, and term limits on elected officials.

Those are things that could be addressed with Trump, that will only get lip service from other candidates.

There are plenty of gains to be made! Now is not a time for gridlock and not making gains for the middle class working public.

But, we're talking about Cruz.

No, we're talking about why there is hate for Cruz. It's right at the top of the thread.

no hate for Cruz but he can't beat Hillary and only Trump has a chance of beating her. You had better get your head out of your ass and help keep Hillary out of the White House.

So Trump is the reason we have hate for Cruz?

Haters gonna hate.

There is no critical thought going on amount these guys, just critical lies that for the most part were started by either Trump or Cruz's detractors who hated him for his conservatism and as an impediment to their DC graft and corruption, but would love to take them back now that Trump appears inevitable. Many here are just hard azz boneheads who get something in their minds and wouldn't change it if Jesus came down and told them they were totally wrong. I'm done with this topic and them. Who really has time for snarky idiots that will destroy the country and enjoy it? Not me.

light the fireworks

Many here are just hard azz boneheads who get something in their minds and wouldn't change it if Jesus came down and told them they were totally wrong. I'm done with this topic and them. Who really has time for snarky idiots that will destroy the country and enjoy it? Not me.
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Your arrogance is greatly undeserved.

I would say the supporters of both candidates have created animosity towards each other, and the reality is that R voters would win if either got to the white house.

I just think Trump will accomplish more and leave a bigger mark on history than Cruz is capable of. Cruz will keep playing the standard politics game, while Trump will swing for the fences.

That is the difference in my mind.

Yup a big schit stain

Not making any comparison, but Stalin left a bigger mark on history than Trotsky.

And I do appreciate you actually opining on why you support trump.

Dershowitz says Cruz is off the charts smart at law school.

America is dumb and getting dumber. We don't want a smart Pres.

We want a dumb one.

We want a Pres who can inherit $200M in 1992 and in just 24 years, grow it into less than $200M. That is one dumb investor:)

We want a candidate with the only negatives polling worse than Hillary. Give us trump. we are dumb and we deserve him.

Trump will lose 40 states. We don't care. We are dumb.

Trump will cause zillions of other office republicans to lose. we don't care. We are dumb.

Trump has got $2B in free publicity, and 67% of Americans say they will never vote for him, no matter what.

No worry, he can get a few votes.
Why worry, when we are dumb.

What is there to hate about Cruz? He may not be able to stop Trump.

For me, Cruz reeks of insincerity

Have you ever read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell? Cruz sends my red flag meter through the roof.

But not Trump? Who has flipped on every issue? Including gun control?

Actually, that's pretty much totally true. Prior to the presidential election Cruz was treated as a conservative hero on here by all except a couple.

But the campaign is following certain characteristics we've seen before. Demonize your enemies and accuse him with lies.

I don't let a candidate's supporters rhetoric affect my opinion of said candidate. My opinion hasn't changed that Trump, Cruz and Carson are my leading choices. In my perfect world Trump will win and Cruz be VP to season on private sector global economics then be president, and Carson a leading role in the administration.

All have liabilities but the upside of each are better than anyone else that's in the race or was in the race.

Most of what's posted here is... Taradiddle...

Kent

I don't hate Cruz, but I prefer Trump for various reasons.

1. In Presidential races, talent beats skill. Skill is learned but talent is something you are born with. Look back over the last 50 years and it's pretty clear the candidates who had talent vs those with skill. The only reason George W. got elected was because there was no talent in either race. He just had slightly better skills and the country was ready for a change after 8yrs of Dems. George Sr won running for a third Reagan term, not because he had talent. All the political talent has been on the Dem side for the last 25yrs - Bill and Obama. In the current race, Cruz and Hillary have skill, Trump has talent.

2. Cruz is the Republican equivalent of Obama. He's ultra conservative where Obama is ultra liberal. He's most conservative on social issues which infuriates Libs and scares moderates. He'll be as despised by the other side as Obama currently is. This will motivate Dems to take back Congress, then we'll be in the same stalemate again. A secondary problem is Cruz is also hated by his own side where Obama is adored. It's unclear that Cruz could accomplish much with a congress full of members who despise him personally. The Republican party can't grow unless the voters of this country begin to see us a party that can get things done, not just be the "party of NO". Trump has been getting things done his entire career.

3. Cruz has zero appeal outside of his conservative base, and he hasn't done particularly well with them in the primaries. All the blue-collar, union, Reagan Democrats that Trump has been coaxing back over to our side will go right back into Hillary's column. I'll take the loss of the neoconservatives of the party in order to gain the blue collar vote every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Dammmmmm these trump bots are like sleeper cells.....…the world is upside down

Picking Trump vs. Cruz shouldn't be an emotional decision. It's a business decision.

When you take away the emotions oozing through the pores of Cruz supporters, and merely focus on sound policy decisions from a global business perspective, picking Trump is a no-brainer.

We're going to win, win, win

Well I for one know that Cruz ain't going to "fly" in the NE part of the country. ... (too many turd burglars there). ....So I would vote trump/Cruz 2016 .....and in januatyy 2017 I will flush the toilet - ridding this country of obama the great turd.

Nice points TATE.

I've never thought of it in a skill vrs talent situation, but it does make some sense.

Was that your logic when saying we'd have to settle for an assault weapons ban after Sandy Hook? Just looking at it as a business decision?

Fair enough. I'll keep with my rabid emotional stancess.

Yeah, that was a low mark for Bob, for sure. He's excused for that, though, due to his yeoman's effort in supporting Trump.

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When who said that? Surely you aren't suggesting I did.

I may be misremembering, but thought you and I had a big dustup about that when the Senate was trying to push through the gun control package. If not, I apologize.. hate to level an accusation like that wrongly.

Your memory is fine.

I thought it was before SH but a member had asked what would the political negotiations mostly entail and what could be the possible outcome to those negotiations.

I merely answered his question without stating my position on the actual arguments, at all. Stayed with the original question throughout.

I've been counsel on many, many matters related to the 2nd and I've not ever supported any ban.

Typical of 24H fashion though, if one specifically answers a specific question on page 1;by page 3, for those who haven't followed along, it automatically becomes the writer's position and the writer's mom ends up sucking someone's pecker by the end of the day.

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I know yours isn't so why don't you prove yourself right instead of running your reckless mouth.

My bad.. it was magazine size and universal background checks that didn't bother you, not AWB. My apologies.

I'm just agreeing with your new BFF.... Hawkeye.

[come to think of it, that IS on the reckless side]

Anyway.. after derailing the thread about something isaac DIDN'T do, let's move it back to Cruz.

There you go again. I stated what could likely be the agreed compromise on the Hill.

Show me where I said I supported such a thing.

I specifically avoided saying you supported it, because that wouldn't be true. But you did say that "If this is enough for your world to come crashing down,I suggest you try to obtain your Xanax inside the next month or so.", which I interpret to mean you aren't particularly bothered by them. I don't know Virginia, you may be living under both those restrictions already. Not worth derailing the thread over.

I said before your cherry picked sentence that "if NR was correct in their assessment..."

And,who side-tracked the thread, again?

I simply responded to your comments, as any one would, when accused of saying something never said.

And I apologized and admitted I recalled it wrong. And tried to get the thread back on track.

Again I'll try.. one more reason to hate Cruz:

Just gotta hate this guy, right?

I was stronger for Cruz before he put Neil Bush on his economic team. Neil Bush might be the smartest of the Bush progeny but he is also the most corrupt.

I do think that several x Amendment issues need to be taken care off the issues related to limited government need to be sorted out and the sheeple are just letting Gov run over us.

Different question

Why I don't love Ted is insincerety

Why I don't love trump is his populism

And nothing happened. All talk just like Trump said.

So according to your theory, we need to disqualify Cruz and Trump and every other Republican because they haven't pushed any conservative causes through in the last 8 years. Definitely not Trump, who doesn't have a single Conservative success story to his entire 70+ year existence and despite having the money to fund success stories each and every day.

Nobody is qualified to run then. Well, maybe just governors. You must be a Jeb Bush or Christie fan then.

Hillary is having a banner day with all the divisiveness.

Excuse me. That was disrespectful.

I meant President Clinton...

Not Trump. He wasn't a part of it. But pretty much everybody in Congress needs to go home.

I'd keep a couple,...Justin Amash, Rand Paul,.. Jeff Sessions

Of course Trump was involved. He admits during the debates he has the best lobbyists working for him and he contributes to legislator's campaigns that sit on important committees.

You say the problem is government is that it's run by big business, big money and big cronyism - so here's one of the biggest guys. Where are the results he's gotten us?

Then support the guy who doesn't mention it at all then.

If you want different results, you need to take different actions.

Agreed.


Let's not be naive... lobbying by monied interests has always been part of the political landscape and always will.

Trump is small potatoes when it comes to attempting to buy politicians and exerting influence....not like the Big Insurance Companies,and Big Pharma jamming Obama Care down our throats,forcing us to buy products we didn't ask for and penalizing us if we don't.

And lets not get into Solyndra where $5 bill went down the tubes; or other failed solar projects funded off the tax payers backs. I'm sure with enough digging we could find lots more....

NOTHING Trump could ever get involved in on his own could remotely approach that kind of graft and corruption, So let's not insult each others intelligence by pretending Trump's (legal) political contributions approach this other stuff that's been going on with Republicans and Democrats both . The Republicans have never made a serious move to revoke O-Care.

How come?

Bristoe is right....throw them ALL out.

Thats for sure


http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unr...orge-soros-and-donald-trump-2351866.html

Exactly.

Trump is the only dirtbag we haven't tried already.

No one that I know of "loves" him as Cruzettes so often imply perhaps by way of projection.


He is just a way to vote with the middle finger before we do so with our trigger finger.

I know you don't have to agree with it but this same conversation has gone on ad infinitum here and you're not stupid so I have to believe you understand yet enjoy beating a dead horse?

One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. The other guys are the same thing. This guy is, IN OUR OPINIONS, different.

Interesting, but too much to absorb and way too much to waste my time... Besides that's just a case summary with bare allegations,and not the official record.

Please tell me what happened (?) Any indictments? Trump go to jail? Did the US Attorney prosecute Trump for anything?


Was it some kind of shakedown lawsuit?

How much taxpayer money was involved in this huge RICO scheme?

I'd be interested in the final disposition on this.You may be onto something... Thanks.

Seems from 2012 to present would be enough time for it all to flesh out.


Just a thought since I know nothing about what was going on, but.....I suspect that lawsuit was by a Conseco creditor who was maybe unsecured and whose claim was about to be wiped in bankruptcy.

As you probably know,a debt incurred fraudulently cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. A RICO claim sounds in fraud; so likely the creditor filed that as a way to circumvent the fraud exclusion and keep his claim alive....hoping for a settlement. Of course I'm just guessing but maybe you can corroborate?

The creditor would bring that action in an adversarial proceeding under the bankruptcy Rules, right?

Like i said I don't know as much about any of this case as you so I'd appreciate you letting me know.

Let me know what you find out!

Thanks!

It was dismissed by a clinton appointed judge.


What ever he wanted he got

LMAO!

I don't want to watch the video.


So it was "DISMISSED"...just a phony lawsuit that got thrown out,right? Totally without merit.

Tell me I was right....was it a creditor who brought the claim?

How else could it end under the obama regime? Trump and Soros are known for supporting democrats. They paid their dues; now use the get out of jail free card. Its just business.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ump-defends-clinton-foundation-donations

Interesting twist.

So you know that this case was dismissed because someone was paid off? Was it brought by a creditor in the bankruptcy proceeding?

You know that the claim had merit but was dismissed due to graft, corruption etc?

If so why no action by the US Attorney?


Let's quit jousting....it was a bogus lawsuit that got thrown out on the merits of the action and you have no proof by any standard that anything else happened, other than to spin it the way you want because you don't like Trump.

You can't prove any of it. Just more noise.

I presented my facts.

a) known democrat donors

b) rico suit dismissed by a clinton appointed judge

c) in trumps own words "I get whatever I need"


You want to side with a clinton appointed judge, thats ok with me.

I'm sure you know about soros lending trump money? It's not like they don't know each other

Nothing illegal. Just more commercial crap. If it were more he'd have been indicted.

Still not at the level of the bigger stuff that goes on in Washington.

I'm not impressed.

Trump should get a free pass; its just business as usual.

It is not about if YOU like trump, it is can trump win a national election?

No, his negatives are so high, he loses 40 states to Hillary.

He does well with old white men, but does not poll well with others.

Why do you think liberals gave trump $2B in free publicity?

The same reason they gave it to Ross Perot, so Clinton would get the white house.

Interesting that a thread about hating Cruz turns in to a trump bashing thread.

It is not about if YOU like trump, it is can trump win a national election?

No, his negatives are so high, he loses 40 states to Hillary.
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Simply amazing.

Cruz is the best chance to stop the Trump train wreck

What states that Romney lost does your guy win? If it's not enough to win the electoral college, who cares other than forum land.

Speaking of sheeple, you have a problem with bush adding someone who could raise money on his team, but have absolutely no problem with Trump contributing to democrats for years, buying political influence, and being involved with corruption in his construction business but these things you don't have any problem with. That is really open minded of you. NOT

No hate, I love Cruz, just don't think he could beat hitlery and that's what we've GOT to do in November, would dearly love to see him sit the next 35 years on the SCOTUS!

Fellow Cruz supporters, you have to admit Mitt and Lindsey's endorsement screwed his chances. I don't like it any more than y'all, but that ain't gonna play well. As much as I hate to admit it, Cruz is done.

How so? I voted for Romney once.

Dude! Soros is behind this concerted effort to destroy Trump. Like it or not, Trump's got the nomination sown up.

Soros is behind this concerted effort to destroy the entire country

That hungarian commie sonofawhore needs to receive high speed copper correction and compliance!

trump must have been really hard up to borrow 160 million from him.

Sure.

As many times as this has been asked here, has it ever been answered?

No. Everybody is more happy to argue than to figure out how to address the real problem.

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The reality compels those fall back positions.

Thank goodness we have nonsuits to save our asses when we're in that jam.

Maybe that was the intent. A kiss of death if you will.

The propaganda Corps is always going to be in the bag for the establishment. The fact that Waterboy couldn't even win his own state should reveal the bias of these so-called "polls".

How is that interesting? What thread has stayed on track much past the 10th post ever? At least it's following the same basic track.

That would presume the public at large are a projection of attitudes on the campfire. They are not.

There are some here who dig deep into the layers of this election, most don't get very deep... but the general public is very shallow, right on the surface.

And the one that appeals to them is Trump, he's all anyone talks about. He dominates the conversation and agenda. I work on a major college campus and don't hear the hate for Trump displayed here, concern is about as low as it goes.

Sanders and Trump were sharing the play, Clinton and Cruz ignored. Sanders is out and my feel is if these people actually go and vote it'll be Trump over Clinton percentage wise.

Kent

Cruz has had every disadvantage... no free media, no party support and constant attacks from every angle. He has dominated 90% of the debates, raised a lot of money from every corner. The media and Washington pretend he doesn't exist because they are terrified of him.

...and he is STILL in second place and may win.

That is reality.

He has 4 of 8 states needed to satisfy Rule40(b), much less getting crushed in the primaries.

Good luck with that.

Interesting because of the hypocrisy. Cruz supporters seem to be constantly crying that everyone hates their guy, but don't realize they're just as bad or worse at disparaging trump.

And vice versa.

The difference is that the disparaging remarks about Cruz are petty lies.

Thanks, and good luck to you with the brokered convention now that your Republicans are pumping Kasich.

You ever do stand-up?

What states won by Obama in 2012 is Cruz likely to pick off, Pat? I believe that the Ohio primary demonstrates that it can't be done in any way that gives Cruz an electoral college win. I would love someone to explain to me that I am wrong, but nobody on 24HCF appears to be able to do it. I actually think Trump and Cruz both lose, but that Trump has the potential to maybe peel off some states.

Now, if we are betting the 100 to 1 longshot that there will be a terrorist attack or an economic upheaval similar to 2008 that occurs just before the election, then either has a shot. As for me, I don't buy lottery tickets.

Complaining about disadvantages in financing and people being mean is just whining and unbecoming.

Did Cruz get a sweetheart loan from Goldman Sachs?
Did Cruz's campaign disingenuously imply that Carson dropped out of the race?
Did Cruz not stand up for the protesters by blaming trump for inciting them to violence?
Did Cruz refer to trump supporters as low information? (Do you consider Isaac to be low information?)

If you think all of these are false, then I can understand why you think people hate Cruz. But if any of them are true, do you understand why some people don't support Cruz?

And incidentally, I think the recent phenomenon of referring to people who disagree with one's opinions as "haters" is a tactic of teenagers who haven't been taught critical thinking skills.

For [bleep] sake, stop mainlining the kool aid.

He condemned them both.

Go read or watch his statement.

As for the rest, stop drinking the kool aid...

Another manifestation of GOP stupidity. Kasich couldn't make dog catcher outside Ohio. These guys are laughable and pathetic.

Kasich looks like the last place finisher in a road race, still pumping his fist after everyone else has gone home.

He looks so stupid. I guess this is what happens after a few years not keeping score at soccer games.....

I did watch it. Here's my paraphrase: the protesters shouldn't have showed up and taken the bait that trump should have never put out there.

As for the rest of my post that you didn't quote, are they just kool-aid too? Just petty lies? Or are they substantive reasons why a person would not support Cruz?

I'm not complaining at all. I'm proud to the part of America that stands for liberty and the Constitution. The fact that Cruz has made it this far is testimony to the fact that there are are more than a few of us left. I'm overjoyed, actually. By listening to you guys and the MSM, one would be.led to believe there are nothing but angry old.men and liberals left in The USA.

Give me liberty or give me...whatever the rest of you choose. I'm happy.

What about the "poison pill" lie regarding his work to pass amnesty?

It was a "poison pill" you lameasse; evidenced by how quickly the DegeneCrats dropped their support of that bill.
Blind and stupid is something you can't change in yourself!
But at least try to get your "facts" right

Nobody is going to make you a winner.

At this point my irritation with both Cruz, Kasich, and their supporters is, Cruz and Kasich have no realistic chance to win the nomination yet they're staying in the race in order to disrupt it to the extent that a brokered convention is a possibility,...a brokered convention that would allow the GOP party bosses to steal the nomination from Trump.

Trump is the only candidate with a possibility to beat Hillary.

Consequently, I'm irritated at Cruz, Kasich, and their supporters because they're working to get Hillary elected.

Don't sell yourself short. It's also damn near impossible to type while both your shoulders are dislocated from patting yourself on the back. That's Medal of Honor territory right there.

Don't hate me because I'm happy.

No you're just irritated that everybody else isn't irritated. That's how you roll.

itp -

Ted was my pick early on. His constitutional stand means a whole lot to me. He was enamored with it (constit) from his H S days.

He has argued more cases before the U S Supreme court than any lawyer in Texas, if I understood correctly.

I don't feel trump is presidential material.

I feel that Rubio and Kasich should have dropped out much sooner to allow Ted to gather more delegates.


Honestly with all the D, communist, & women I have my doubts that ANY of them can beat H. That's NOT what I want.

May God Help Us in the election.


Jerry

Own up.

Republicans like you gave us 8 years of Obama and now you're trying to give the country Hillary.

Pat Buchanan had it right when he said that some defections from the party would occur as a result of the Trump nomination. He was also correct when he said that they wouldn't be unwelcome.

The country can't afford any more of the delusions that are exhibited by a segment of the Republicans.

In order to like Cruz, you must first like yourself.

Well, Dr fuggin Phil!

We got a reg'lar Psychiatrist in our midst!

Was he lying then or is he lying now?

Pat is a Conservative, not a Republican. But you have known that a long time.

Cruz is the most Conservative candidate in this race.

He has, by far, the most impressive 2A credentials of any candidate in recent memory.

NOT supporting Cruz is an admission that the 2A is NOT important to you.

It is every man's right to make that choice, but he should be honest enough to admit it.

And.... after this election, when we have thread topics about gun rights, you have forfeited the right to claim to support them, along with all who support Trump.

You will have shown that gun owners are a "paper tiger" and are of no consequence in future elections.

Gun owners are going to have a hell of a time if the delusional Cruz supporters cause Hillary to get elected.

Trump helped elect hillary how many times? and schumer, and reid, and...

And be a condescending, arrogant, arbiter of all things conservative and righteous, while possessed of an indefatigable omnipotent ability to immediately discern the thoughts, intentions and obviously inferior intellectual capacity of fellow forum members, and the smug ability to "straighten them out".

It's all about you Cruzzies.

Never forget that.

OBTW, the Cruzer lost.

Well said. "Anybody but Cruz" has been the Republican plan from the start and those desperately wanting to become "winners" have played right into it. The shame of it all is that has always been so obvious.

The other fact is that you and the Donald will own that.

You put the blame on everyone not supporting Trump...

Could it be that someone other than yourself can support who THEY think is best qualified?

Ya don't get much more freedom than that.

Freedom has occurred.

The Cruzer lost.

Hmmm?

Don't pretend to be concerned about gun ownership while you are pimping Trump.

Einstien redeux

Yeah.

You guys have been saying that for months.

Yet, there Ted is. Standing directly in the path of Trump's 1237 magic number.

Trump sure hasn't got the support y'all say he does.

LOL, don't usually take up the issue of spelling, but when you're tryin to imply someone else is less intelligent:

Could you at least try and get *one* of the words right?

Yeah, I'm against liberty and the Constitution and chose to live in liberal Utopia. All I asked was for anyone to show me Cruz' path to the White House and how it is more probable than the alternatives. All I ever get in response is complete stonewalling or a bunch of talking points. From this, about the only thing I can conclude is that the 24HCF is relying on the Powerball strategy.

Trump anit going to be the man ...he did not do the time/and it ain't his turn ..PERIOD

The path is narrow, but obvious. Vote for Cruz.

You will have to complicate it up the level of their understanding.

Being Trump supporters, they are sticklers for details.

Just tell 'em, "It'll be Great!"

It's so obvious nobody can explain it.

O K........ If Trump has less than 1237 delegates, then he gets those votes on the first two ballots. Cruz, or Kasich, get their delegates plus more from the "dropouts" on the second ballot.

The third ballot is where Trump's delegates start abandoning him in favor of who the RNC directs them to. If Cruz maintains his margin over Kasich in the remaining contests, it will likely be a Cruz/Kasich ticket.

Trump's path is simpler...... win 1237 delegates or go home.

Cheyenne...you can't make it simpler and you're not going to get your answer from the Cruz supporters because they don't have one.

Cruz is relying on the insiders to get him to a contested convention where he has even less a chance of winning than he does the nomination.

Cruz is a major lightweight compared to the strength of Trump.

I just did. All he needs is the votes.

Oh Really! ! you listenin to CNN ?

He has NOT lost yet. Trump has NOT won yet?


U R from KC..Mo

ok.

Jerry

I say Cruz can still win.

You say he can not.

One of us is a big, fat liar.

Curious as to why anybody on a hunting website would vote for a guy (Cruz) that will give Federal land to the State, bringing it under the watch of a state land board whose job is to maximize financial return on that land. Land which is no longer public once the State has it; where hunting, hiking, camping, walking, or dam near anything is not allowed outright or without a permit.

Educate yourself. You've been listening to hippies.

Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

Cruz is the only candidate with integrity that can win. That may not matter to some, but it will always matter to many.

It's worked for Trump's laundry list of defects and inadequacies.

Don't worry, Hillary will bring them back to light for you.

He's talking about the general election. Which states does Cruz win that Romney lost?

I'm not talking about the nomination. I am talking about the election. Assume your guy is the nominee. How does he win states that Romney lost to pick up enough electoral college votes to win the election. Consider, especially, what happened in the Ohio primary, and how that plays into the general election.

I am not a Trump guy. I have not even decided that I am voting this election.

If we are depending on Democrats to elect our candidate, why even try?

If trump would have stayed anti-gun and pro obamacare, he would have attracted more democrats.

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That's where your major disconnect lies.

To call blue doggers and Independents democrats whose votes should not be sought borders on political suicide.

It's the main reason you see Cruz shifting towards the middle when he's not agreeing with Trump on virtually every platform issue.

I'll be damn if Herman Cain didn't just read my post out loud on national TV.

Not bad for a low info Trump supporter, eh?

Political suicide is when your party becomes their party. Mine killed itself 50 years ago. I have no respect for those remaining.

About me being a great guy? Most of the other one's are lies. Hey...wait a minute....

I know. I keep trying to employ a redirection technique that is used on people who are detached from reality, in order to try to get them focus on something concrete.

I don't know the answers, and I am not spending all day reading a bunch of charts and graphs like I did 20 years ago. I figure that, with as much bandwidth as is being wasted on just this forum alone, somebody has taken an objective look at the charts and graphs and can steer me to something concrete. But, it's all about "he said, she said" and tangents.

Exactly why the voters aren't going to permit Cruz to make it 54 years.

That is because there are no guarantees in politics. Only Bob can tell you exactly how everything will happen in the future.

I know. I keep trying to employ a redirection technique that is used on people who are detached from reality, in order to try to get them focus on something concrete.
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You did redirect. At least 4 times. They're smart enough to know you did so, as well.

Like I said, they know the answer. You're not going to get it. You won't get the answer after Cruz is mathematically eliminated for as long as Cruz has to still rely on the GOPe and Kasich to give him another less than 2% chance at a contested convention, which isn't going to happen.

Consider doing as I've done and accept their silence as the best affirmative answer to your question you're going to get.

What silence? All he needs is votes to win. If Cruz doesn't get them, he doesn't win. It's Kasich that has no chance but being brokered, and probably not even then.

I'll help you out

Colorado - No access on state trust lands without enrollment in PAP.

WY - No camping on state trust lands.

NM - no access without a purchased permit, no camping, no hunting without Game dept purchased easement, lesee controls surface access.

MT - Restricted camping on state trust lands and no off-road travel.

Of course there are no guarantees. There are no guarantees in the stock market, either. But, there still are a lot of people who know how to make money because they can analyze data and spot trends and opportunities.

In politics, things like voter demographics, registration, turnout, salient issues, financial resources, morale and motivation, public perception, organization and ground game all go into the mix. I hope that the Republicans are slicing and dicing the Ohio data, because, to win, somebody is going to have to pick off some 2012 blue states. Pennsylvania is another potentially important one, but the primary is not until late April.

Hillary is running the general election now and the eventual winning Republican needs to be doing that as well. A brokered or contested convention puts the Republicans farther behind the 8 ball, regardless of who gets the nomination.

Have you petitioned your state land commissioners or representatives?

As far as control transferred to the local level, all that can be fixed with one sentence.

"All public lands in this transfer cannot be closed to public use, sold, bartered, or traded, and must remain open to the multiple use of the People."

More tangential blather.

Need to add the tear drop tats.

Teardrops are for losers. Like Trump.

Ted Cruz is an infinitely better choice than any other candidate except Trump. I don't hate him at all, I just can't stand to look at him or listen to his preachy, condescending style.

I hold no hate for Cruz it's just that I feel that Trump is the one that we need at this point in time.
That being said, leading up to the Convention, if Cruz has substantially more delegates than Trump then he will have my support.

Can you say the same if the situation is reversed?

Can you say the same if the situation is reversed?
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It already is.

None of those States have over 50% belonging to the Federal Government, therefor don't apply.

Educate yourself.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the 4 states or so with 50% or greater federal ownership are pretty desirable states for the outdoorsman. The ones with the least federal ownership are the crappiest. Some folks can't read sign.

I know you don't want to hear it, but anybody putting the Federal government above the States, IS the problem with our country.