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I've gotten pretty good results from Aguila, of several sorts.
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I found Aguilia Rifle Match shot just as well, and to the same POI as RWS SSHPs. It's become very hard to find though and the price has gone from <$5.00 a box to about the same as the RWS when it is available.
The other Aguilas I've tried have performed about the same as other rounds in the same class; worth buying but not exceptional.
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I picked up two bricks of federal 712 last weekend for $35 each... not the cheapest, but it seems to be a discount target ammo and worth a little more. They had rem golden hollow point 525 packs for $37.
Although there wasnt much on the shelf on a sunday afternoon...
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Some years ago, I bought 5K rounds of Aguila 22 LR and sorted it by weight and rim thickness. After that exercise, I decided that I'd buy Eley and RWS for accuracy and whatever was cheap to plink. The Aguila that I had was plinking ammo, as is the Eley Club in the purple box that is made by Aguila. My standard, everyday, .22 LR ammo is Eley Target in the yellow box.
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Several studies have found sorting .22 ammo by weight and rim thickness is a waste of time, including my own limited testing.
What really seems to matter is the other end of the round: consistent bullet diameter and alignment. Which is the same in centerfire ammunition--the front is the steering end.
The really meaningful test is to shoot different ammo and see how it groups.
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I would say that my 4-way test indicated that there were small incremental improvements in the lower cost Aguila when sorted by rim thickness, by weight, and a second sort within rim thickness by weight. But I felt that the investment in time more than offset the value of the minimal gains, so I said "[bleep] it!" an decided that I'd just buy higher grade ammo, Eley and RWS, when I wanted to shoot good groups and inexpensive ammo when I just want to plink.
I did recently buy a Neil Waltz resizing die, but I haven't gotten around to using it yet.
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If you haven't read it already, an article by C.E. Harris in the 1992 GUNS DIGEST might be of interest.
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Several studies have found sorting .22 ammo by weight and rim thickness is a waste of time, including my own limited testing.
What really seems to matter is the other end of the round: consistent bullet diameter and alignment. Which is the same in centerfire ammunition--the front is the steering end.
The really meaningful test is to shoot different ammo and see how it groups. I bought a .22 resizer/hollow pointer tool off D-rock on RFC and was really impressed at the results. All ammo grouped better but some had very dramatic improvement.
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Cabelas here in Glendale has had a good supply but it's all high end target ammo going for 100 dollars a brick😂
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I passed on a brick of MiniMags the other day as I've got a bunch of stuff, some of it getting a little long in the tooth, that I need to shoot up, including a brick of the original Blazers I paid about $9 for and odd boxes of all sorts I bought while testing new guns. Once I get the "trash" taken out, I'll restock with the winners as I can.
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I have had great luck with Aguila 22 ammo. I especially like the Super Maximum for shooting gopher and even prarie dogs. It is all but impossible to find though. It is far more accurate than CCI Stinger.
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Cabelas here in Glendale has had a good supply but it's all high end target ammo going for 100 dollars a brick😂 You ain't getting "High End" target ammo for $100 a brick. Maybe practice ammo.
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I bought some Wolf Match extra that shoots as good as the $20+ stuff I have tried. It was $60 a brick when I bought it and about $90 now. The last lot was not as good as my cheap lot. But occasionally you can get amazingly good ammo for less than $10 a box.
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My CZ 453 liked the Wolf pretty well, just not as well as the Aguila, which averaged in the .4s for 5 at 50. My current rifle hasn't done that well with anything so far, but I'm still lookin'.
The Wolf match is loaded by SK in Deutschland, I believe. You might give that a shot (accidental pun) if you can't find the Wolf.
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