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But he's right...in a way. Possessing any amount of weed, anywhere in the United States, is a crime. Just because some people are careless about what that might bring, doesn't mean employers can afford to be.

If you had a clue you'd know the levels that show up in a test don't mean you're high.

I'd rather hire someone who smokes a joint once in a while than a drunk.

"Workplace safety" is a BS excuse

You can test positive for Pot from second hand smoke.

I could have done it, in fact I did it. Port Townsend, WA to Kelowna, BC. Did that run for around five years with a hand full of trips it Calgary. Class A with doubles and triples, hazmat, tanker, and combined over weight over length. Never a DUI, no child support, no felonies and no moving violations in last 30 years.

I know you did, Scott, but you're not exactly "average", now, are you?

This "war on drugs" thing is costing this country far more than we realize. It really is Prohibition, part Deux.

The problem with urine tests and hair tests, when it comes to cannabis, is that these don't actually have much, if anything, to do with the question of whether an employee is currently affected by the drug. By the time THC or metabolites show up in urine or hair the intoxicating effect is likely to have long abated. The cannabis metabolites in urine for example don't show up until some time after consumption, but may continue to show up, and give rise to a non-negative result, many days after last use, so what you are testing for is whether the person was, at some time in the past, using or exposed to cannabis (bearing in mind that even sidestream smoke can result in a non-negative).

Now if what you want to assess is whether a person has habits you don't approve of, or which may be detrimental to performance, you'd really need to do a series of tests, comparing results over time.

If on the other hand you want a test as to whether they've very recently smoked cannabis, there's oral swab tests - I'm surprised they haven't been mentioned yet. They aren't perfect, but by their nature they test very recent use, and are therefore likely to be a better proxy for the "currently affected by" question.

I'd probly smoke it but I can't figure out how to get the box open.

90 days at least is what I hear. I tried it a couple times back in the late 70's. I was never one that could stand intentionally inhaling smoke of any kind. And all I really got out of it was the munchies.

Russian, Mexican, and some dot Indian factions have been working hard to fill the niche.

Boogles my mind how many people need drugs to get by. I know but for the grace of God there go I. But really?!?!?! THAT many people doped up, all the time? Is it any wonder we are headed down the crapper?

[quote=hatari]It amazes me that the argument for weed is "alcohol is as bad or worse". I've got a news flash for all you bong brothers out there - you can't keep a job if you're drunk either!

If you want to work - don't smoke weed. Of what benefit is it to you other than recreation? If you want to work, don't show up drunk.

Since when did it become too much to ask employees, or perspective employees to be clean and sober? That is not a high bar to aspire to.

Employer check list

- read
- write
- do basic math
-legal resident
- clean and sober


That is not a prohibitive list is you are not a worthless dumbass.

Well said

I think Scott is pretty average for his generation. I think I have one friend that smokes but it is like a couple beers over the weekend type and I think he has laid off over the last 10 years. He is otherwise straight arrow guy that works in the tech industry servicing and maintaining things like spectrometers at places like Cal Tech and research hospitals and labs. He is not what you would think of as a "stoner" by any stretch of the imagination.

Simply fuggin amazing.

You're wrong about that.

In this state only the dregs of employers will hire someone who fails a drug test.

And increasingly you won't get hired if you've ever had a DUI. DUIs stay on your record forever now.

And if your arms or neck are covered with visible tattoos you won't get hired in a position where customers can see you.

So, if you drive drunk, smoke pot, or have tattoos, congratulations. Your lifetime income just went down. You've given yourself a negative raise.

Personally I think drug tests should be mandatory before getting food stamps, unemployment compensation, or welfare.

I concur on all points, thanks for saving me the painful typing.


mike r

My experience mentioned above. Next to Australia, Canada was the most difficult country to get a project to move forward. Just one example of many as to why...

http://www.calgaryherald.com/busine...t+ruling+random+drug/11930800/story.html

Totally agree. That's the conditions, and agreement I had with an employer of almost 30 years and we got along just fine.

Fuggin' classic.

I don't give a schidt what you do on your own time, if you show up drunk or high, you better work your azz off.