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From what has been presented, do you folks think the police did a good job that night? Would you hire them to work in your towns?

Neither my wife or daughter are cops.

As I said, I incorrectly remembered what your son did. I INCORRECTLY thought I recalled you saying he was an MP. I didn't bring him into this; deflave did. I simply chimed in on that because, like him, I thought he was a cop (MP) and therefore your statement about cops getting killed would have been pertinent.

If you want to bring my family in based upon whatever rationale that will not at all be pertinent to the discussion, well, that's on you. I, personally, think you're a better man than that but it's your call.

I stand by the statement that you're starting to sound like Michael Brown's mother. You don't want "justice", you want vengeance. Facts and investigations aren't mattering to you; you just want lynchings of cops based upon emotion. If you calmed down long enough to see and think straight, you'd see that. Why you can't or won't is baffling.

Ball's in your court.

No. And, no. However, a f'k up is not necessarily a criminal act. That's what the investigation has essentially said.

The folks in that area have an opportunity to oust the sheriff in the next election and get someone who will dismiss those two, if he chooses to do so, and replace them.

From what has been presented here it sounds like a situation took a schit in a very very big hurry.

Aside from that I don't think enough has been made public yet to answer your question


Personally I would have never called the rancher to kill the bull.

Vengeance is waaaay under rated.

I guess I might be bitter if I didn't make the cut as a cop too.

IMO it should have been brought before a jury not decided behind closed doors by folks that in ways work together, and get pay checks from the same public.

4ager wrote


Ever here of fermentation after death effecting the BAC of a dead victim?

Years ago, I was hired by the widow of a retired Army officer who drowned on a fishing trip. A life insurance policy excluded coverage if the insured was intoxicated at the time of death. An autopsy by the state medical examiner reported blood alcohol of 0.20 gr/%. But both the widow and her late husband’s fishing partner swore he had had nothing to drink. At first we thought the county coroner, on whose property the drowning occurred, might have messed with blood samples.

When I contacted an independent pathologist, I learned that fermentation could have produced the blood alcohol score

That's about where I'm at. May not of been criminal, but they look to suck heavily at their jobs.

A grand jury, perhaps, and I believe I said that. But, if there wasn't enough to prosecute then there really wasn't enough to potentially take to a grand jury, either.

Or the deputies ordered Yantis to put the gun away, and being a stubborn old coot, he told them to pound sand.

And as family and friends reported over four months ago, the rifle discharged while Yantis was being assaulted by deputies.

Only way to know for absolute if deputies are telling enhanced and choreographed stories, or family is correct. recordings which apparently do not exist.

I have a tough time imagining there is no audio of this incident.

Yes, and that is factored into any decent autopsy investigation. I'd be damned surprised if any ME didn't account for that. The "years ago" part gives that away, as it's pretty commonly evaluated today, even in BFE Idaho.

I would need to go reread, and listen again, but IIRC the AG said to the effect that conflicting testimony would cause "reasonable doubt"

Still shuoda been brought before a jury IMO, then what I think don't mean squat.

Like Baltimore?




Travis

Again, ain't much disagreement on perhaps having it taken to a grand jury, but that's a DA's call based upon the evidence and the investigation.

That's nice cherry picking but you forgot a major aspect of the process

That the body was not kept cold.


Just how much fermentation do you supposed happened in november, in Idaho?

Does Idaho have heaters in their morgue instead of freezers

I'm not the one that said he was an MP. You are.

And then you exclaim you've no remorse for ambushed/murdered cops.

Stop crying like a little bitch.



Travis

For an average 185 to 200 pound man, as a matter of more or less accepted scientific fact, .10 BAC is four to five beers in an hour or so. It isn't schit faced and most who drink a little would hardly even consider themselves buzzed at that level of BAC.

He stated that there was insufficient evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt

I've arrested .28s that didn't consider themselves "buzzed"