|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,836 Likes: 13
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,836 Likes: 13 |
I remember when Coulter was a reasonably good conservative and didn't constantly lie and propagandize.
She's been going downhill for quite a while. Sad. seriously dude, you are losing what little cred you used to have. What happened to you? Geez
Sam......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,571
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,571 |
Amazing the chit that has slithered in here, and some that were here embarrassed of what they are. All it took was a little company. and they come out of the wood work.
Take care, Willie
Cry to the heavens and let slip the dogs of war. For they must feed on the bones of tyranny. In order for men to have freedom and liberty.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 3,529
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 3,529 |
The issue for me is not the content of Khan's attack, it's the way Trump responded. Not the details of how he responded or how right or wrong his positions are, but that Trump was totally unprepared to respond, and predictably so.
For someone asking to be the President I expect them to be informed, seek the best consul, and respond brilliantly. Had Trump done so he could have easily turned Khan's attack back on Hillary and demonstrated his aptitude for being President. As it is, he demonstrated how badly he would handle provocations were he elected.
I expect Hillary's campaign is planning more attacks to further demonstrated to voters that Trump's response to provocations is predictably amateurish and bumbling. Vladimir Putin, Li Keqiang, and others are watching and learning.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7 |
Actually, the point is Mr. Khan accused TRUMP of calling for a total ban on all Moslem immigration - which is a lie, "flat out" and otherwise. Trump did make that call... http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/Tue December 8, 2015
(CNN)Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump called Monday for barring all Muslims from entering the United States.
"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," a campaign press release said. So what if the American public stops muslim immigration...or do you not think your country has the right to self determine it's own future and citizenry? I am very sure I want my government to look out for my future better than it has, after all if I wanted to live in a muslim infested cesspool I would move to France.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 43,797 Likes: 6
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 43,797 Likes: 6 |
So what if the American public stops muslim immigration...or do you not think your country has the right to self determine it's own future and citizenry?
I am very sure I want my government to look out for my future better than it has, after all if I wanted to live in a muslim infested cesspool I would move to France. There is no problem with limiting immigration by things like country of origin or creating blocks to immigration such as unable to vet somebody or if they have even distant relations who are involved with terrorist organizations. And, ALL immigration can be halted. I would expect any block on immigration based on the faith of the immigrant to be struck down in court as unConstitutional, but that's just a guess. Want it to happen? Just have to convince Congress and the President to do it.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7 |
So what if the American public stops muslim immigration...or do you not think your country has the right to self determine it's own future and citizenry?
I am very sure I want my government to look out for my future better than it has, after all if I wanted to live in a muslim infested cesspool I would move to France. There is no problem with limiting immigration by things like country of origin or creating blocks to immigration such as unable to vet somebody or if they have even distant relations who are involved with terrorist organizations. And, ALL immigration can be halted. I would expect any block on immigration based on the faith of the immigrant to be struck down in court as unConstitutional, but that's just a guess. Want it to happen? Just have to convince Congress and the President to do it. I understand a non-muslim president can do it, as it has been done before.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 43,797 Likes: 6
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 43,797 Likes: 6 |
I understand a non-muslim president can do it, as it has been done before. My understanding was that it hadn't been done based on religion, but rather on country of origin. Again, just what I've heard, maybe some of the legal types here know more. Last time religion might have been used was probably 1910 or earlier, and lots of court rulings have happened since then. Back then they did things like create laws that china men and native americans couldn't become citizens - those were struck down long, long ago.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7 |
So what if it on the basis of religion, specifically a religion that exerts political influence on it's members and those not under it's control.
Your constitution is by Americans for Americans.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 782
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 782 |
Now Colter and Trump have both lied. Trump: “Mr. Khan, who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution...Mr. Khan, who does not know me, viciously attacked me from the stage of the DNC and is now all over T.V. doing the same – Nice!
This what Khan actually said. Khan: Donald Trump, you are asking Americans to trust you with our future.' Let me ask you: Have you even read the U.S. Constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy. In this document, look for the words "liberty" and "equal protection of law."
“viciously attacked”???? I think its clear to everyone that Trump has never read the consitution !! let alone read anything http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/10/donald-trump-humiliates-constitution-wrong-meet-press.html
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 782
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 782 |
Another Republican in the meeting, Rep. Mark Sanford (R-SC), [said] that Trump was asked pointedly if he would defend Article I of the Constitution. "Not only will I stand up for Article One," Trump enthusiastically stated, according to Sanford. "I'll stand up for Article Two, Article 12, you name it of the Constitution." Sanford said Trump's lack of knowledge about how many articles exist, gave him "a little pause." (The Constitution has seven articles and 27 amendments.) http://www.snopes.com/2016/07/24/donald-trump-article-xii/
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,084 Likes: 66
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,084 Likes: 66 |
So what if the American public stops muslim immigration...or do you not think your country has the right to self determine it's own future and citizenry?
I am very sure I want my government to look out for my future better than it has, after all if I wanted to live in a muslim infested cesspool I would move to France. There is no problem with limiting immigration by things like country of origin or creating blocks to immigration such as unable to vet somebody or if they have even distant relations who are involved with terrorist organizations. And, ALL immigration can be halted. I would expect any block on immigration based on the faith of the immigrant to be struck down in court as unConstitutional, but that's just a guess. Want it to happen? Just have to convince Congress and the President to do it. "The Bill of Rights is a futile authority for the alien seeking admission for the first time to these shores. But once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders". - Kwong Hai Chew v. Colding Template:344 U.S. 590, 596, (US Supreme Court Ruling)
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,810 Likes: 7 |
So what if the American public stops muslim immigration...or do you not think your country has the right to self determine it's own future and citizenry?
I am very sure I want my government to look out for my future better than it has, after all if I wanted to live in a muslim infested cesspool I would move to France. There is no problem with limiting immigration by things like country of origin or creating blocks to immigration such as unable to vet somebody or if they have even distant relations who are involved with terrorist organizations. And, ALL immigration can be halted. I would expect any block on immigration based on the faith of the immigrant to be struck down in court as unConstitutional, but that's just a guess. Want it to happen? Just have to convince Congress and the President to do it. "The Bill of Rights is a futile authority for the alien seeking admission for the first time to these shores. But once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders". - Kwong Hai Chew v. Colding Template:344 U.S. 590, 596, (US Supreme Court Ruling) Thank you Hawk. There you go fellas, you don't have to let anyone in at all if you do not want to. But those you have let in already are Americans with full rights and responsibilities.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,084 Likes: 66
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,084 Likes: 66 |
The second part of your statement overstates the ruling. All people within our borders are not US Citizens with all of the rights thereof. It does say, however, that all rights recognized by our Constitution as belonging to all people must be respected by our government with regard to those lawfully within our borders. Not all people within our borders, however, have a Constitutional right to citizenship.
More importantly, however, the ruling states that no one who is not yet authorized to enter our borders may appeal to their rights under our Constitution with regard to our immigration policy.
|
|
|
|
585 members (06hunter59, 10gaugeman, 12344mag, 10gaugemag, 10Glocks, 1234, 55 invisible),
13,499
guests, and
1,002
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,195,123
Posts18,542,297
Members74,057
|
Most Online21,066 May 26th, 2024
|
|
|
|