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Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 tex_n_cal #11406146 08/29/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,247 Likes: 1 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,247 Likes: 1 Oklahoma	Wheewwwww, good to hear Tex. Trump Won!

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Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Prwlr #11406317 08/29/16
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana	Prwlr, The Federal 205 isn't the mildest and softest-cupped small-rifle primer, but it's definitely toward that end of the spectrum. It's primarily meant for relatively small charges of the small-grain extruded powders favored by most short-range benchrest shooters, which are easier to ignite than spherical powders like Li'l Gun and 300 MP. In a test I ran on different primers in the .22 Hornet a few years ago, the F205m resulted in by far the slowest muzzle velocities and widest velocity variations with Li'l Gun. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11406409 08/29/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	JB, do you think CCI 450's would do a better job igniting 300MP, versus BR4's? "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 tex_n_cal #11406631 08/30/16
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	Tex, Not JB, but I think I can summarize; JB can correct me. The hotter primers, like 7 1/2, BR-4, 450 do a better job igniting slow burning powders like Lil gun and 300-MP, with 450's edging others for top spot. Gunner agrees with that, so I guess it doesn't matter what JB thinks... DF

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11407302 08/30/16
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana	JB agrees! “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

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Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Mule Deer #11407332 08/30/16
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by Mule Deer JB agrees! Wheeww! That was close... DF

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11407378 08/30/16
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana	Naw, you and Gunner were ahead 2-0 already.... “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11407555 08/30/16
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Biathlonman Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,464 Kentucky	It's not supposed to work but Winchester small pistol primers are the best I've tried in my hornet.

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Biathlonman #11407586 08/30/16
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OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by Biathlonman It's not supposed to work but Winchester small pistol primers are the best I've tried in my hornet. What powder? DF

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Mule Deer #11407588 08/30/16
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by Mule Deer Naw, you and Gunner were ahead 2-0 already.... Blind hog sometimes finds a worm. Maybe even two blind hogs...? DF

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Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11407669 08/30/16
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Biathlonman Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,464 Kentucky	I run 13 grains of little gun behind everything in the 40-50 range, standard hornet, prvi case.

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Biathlonman #11407708 08/30/16
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by Biathlonman I run 13 grains of little gun behind everything in the 40-50 range, standard hornet, prvi case. You using a drop tube like gunner to get 13 gr. in a std. Hornet case? DF

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11407748 08/30/16
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Biathlonman Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,464 Kentucky	No tube, using a cheap lee kit and throwing the charge in the top. fills the case up almost to the top. I'm almost convinced I could just dip cases, strike off at the top and seat a bullet.

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Biathlonman #11407757 08/30/16
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,143 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	The K Hornet case definitely has more room. 13 gr. drops in with room for the bullet. DF

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11407771 08/30/16
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Biathlonman Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,464 Kentucky	I've not had issues seating but its definitely compressed. Standard has been good to me, K doesn't intrest me much.

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Biathlonman #11407878 08/30/16
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana	Would like to hear more about your tests! “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11408348 08/30/16
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Biathlonman Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,464 Kentucky	Nothing elaborate. I started with Remington 6 1/2s and was getting groups 1.5-1.75". Tried CCI small rifles and got the same. Read about small pistol primers and all I had was winchesters in stock. Groups immediately shrunk at least in half and best groups are now running around 1/2". Nothing else was changed but primers.

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Biathlonman #11408614 08/30/16
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana	How many shots in a group? Did you check your handloads for bullet run-out? “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 Dirtfarmer #11408622 08/30/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,247 Likes: 1 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,247 Likes: 1 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer Originally Posted by Biathlonman I run 13 grains of little gun behind everything in the 40-50 range, standard hornet, prvi case. You using a drop tube like gunner to get 13 gr. in a std. Hornet case? DF LOL, think I'm getting in 13.5 grs with only neck sizing about 1/3rd inch of the neck or measured bullet shank in the case, can't remember the exact number, but size die is set to do so. That's why I started and finished with the 450 mag primers, I knew early on I'd be trying to ignite a heavily compressed pellet of lil-gun, I need HEAT and a tough cup Man. lol Trump Won!

Re: .22 K Hornet X 2 gunner500 #11408776 08/31/16
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,144 Likes: 11 Banana Belt, Montana	There's also a difference in how much different kinds of brass will hold. Prvi cases are heavier, with less capacity than the Winchester cases I mostly use. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

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