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After returning from my UBER vacation to Poland, I found some time to take a break and do a bit of testing with the 2.5-10X42 Response. First I made this target with 2" dots, 4" apart from each other going up and down. Yes I know 1 MOA equals more than 1" at 100yds but I wasn't sure what the distance of the frame at our range was so I figured I could use it as is and diagnose after the fact. So the way this test worked was this: I fire one shot starting at zero, and dial 4 MOA, and fire again. This was done until 20 MOA was dialed into the turret, and then the process was repeated until back to zero. Bottom dot was used as the aiming point. Why did I use 2 MOA dots? The rifle being used is a 2 MOA gun. I know, I know. It's the internet and I'm not supposed to admit that. But the 24hour black rifle challenge proved it to be true. Wind was, not good. And mostly a strong right to left. When you look at the target you'll find a number of the shots are high. I assume this is due to the range of the target being 111yds, and as you dial more MOA that difference compounds itself. i.e. 111 X 1.047 / 100 = 1.16. So at the extreme end of the target 20 X 1.16 = 23.2. Which would put the rounds 3.2" above target. Right? So with all the nerd schit out of the way, I did more shooting.
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Using the ballistic AE App in my phone, I dialed to 450 and let fly. Four shots. Beer can is for scale only and would never be consumed during testing. Dialed back to 350 and threw 3 more. This plate is about 7-8". Stiff left to right wind. The turrets are solid. No mush or slop at all. I would say they are tougher to engage than either the M1 or the Super Sniper's. Not even comparable to a CDS or the turrets on an AR mod 1. They lift straight up and you can spin them to zero, and set them back down. Very slick and would be pretty handy if testing a number of loads on the same day or even the same week. If you're a set and forget guy, not an issue I would assume. Numbers are easy to see. Even when blurry.
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I had time to try the reticle. The reticle is easy to see without taking up too much target space. I want to like it but it may be a bit too busy for my eyes. I found myself counting down from the crosshair to make sure I was on the right hash. May just need getting used to. First shot was to the 4 and my wind call was solid... grin. I kinda started liking the reticle more, the more I used it. But we'll have to test it out the truck window in the coming weeks to be sure. 350 was next. Right out of the gate.
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Thanks.. Keep us up to date on this one.. 5.56??
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Your rangefinder will tell you how far out is the target frame.
I'm sure you have a rifle that's a lot tighter than 2 moa hanging around.
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Your rangefinder will tell you how far out is the target frame.
I'm sure you have a rifle that's a lot tighter than 2 moa hanging around. Good tip. It read 111yds. The mount is from Tract as well. I wanted to try them out together and I don't think it'd provide proper cheek weld on my bolt guns. But I may swap it to my son's .223 after more AR use. Travis
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Thanks.. Keep us up to date on this one.. 5.56?? Yes. Optics Ready M&P 15 with Rock River two-stage. Otherwise stock aside from the MagPul forend and buttstock. Travis
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Your rangefinder will tell you how far out is the target frame.
I'm sure you have a rifle that's a lot tighter than 2 moa hanging around. Don't be snarky. A 2 MOA rifle at 111 yards is the epitome of a rigorous test.
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Put it on a real gun and take it to 1000...
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Are we concluding the optic does not track?
Travis
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Are we concluding the optic does not track?
Travis
It looks like from your first post, it tracks well. It is not all about the scope but the rifle and the operator.
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Are we saying it looks like Flave can't shoot?
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It's no fool who mounts an optic to a 2 MOA rifle and ladder tests two shot groups in a stiff Montuckey wind at 111yards.
The important question is, did you use one of those fancy German levels, like Hunt's, to plumb up your target?
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I'm going to try harder this next go around. Most AR's shoot sub-MOA "all day long."
I'll get there.
Dave
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See....
Nobody likes an honest review....
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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It's no fool who mounts an optic to a 2 MOA rifle and ladder tests two shot groups in a stiff Montuckey wind at 111yards.
The important question is, did you use one of those fancy German levels, like Hunt's, to plumb up your target? I used my iPhone. Dave
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It is not all about the scope but the rifle and the operator.
I knew a guy that used to shoot a lot and he said weather could be a factor too. Clark
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Should have just Mount that thing on your 870.
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At least you didn't use crayon and keystone light cartons............
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