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So they say the guy had a little Colt .380. That's what it looks like laying on the ground. Sez he carries it in an ankle holster.

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Originally Posted by poboy
So they say the guy had a little Colt .380. That's what it looks like laying on the ground. Sez he carries it in an ankle holster.


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If I wasn't I wouldn't admit it.


That was pretty witty for a Texan.




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Under intense public and political pressure, Charlotte police officials on Saturday released dashboard and body camera recordings in the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, whose death has prompted large and sometimes violent protests here. For the first time, Police Chief Kerr Putney said Mr. Scott was in possession of both marijuana and a handgun, which he said raised a safety issue officers felt compelled to confront.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/charlotte-police-videos-keith-scott.html?_r=0


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So you are equating [bleep] Kinte from the NC shooting, et al with the founding fathers?
Just to be clear.

I'm equating 'blind compliance to authority' with bein' a 'subject' instead of a 'citizen'.

Just to be clear.


Just to be clear, you are venting and not sticking with the topic at hand. You have created a straw man and set it on fire.

If you have a firearm in hand, in a simular circumstance, and the police tells you to drop it. Drop it.

Open carry and holstered would have deescalade the whole event.

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Hey soccer mom douche....don't cry like a bitch if my son smokes one of your snot nosed retards.

You're new name is fitting....failure.


BLM up in here! We gonna smoke yo white kid up in yo profile pic! And send Bubba so's you can smoke his pole too fahghott!


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North Carolina is an open carry state. The cops saw him carrying a gun, when they were looking for somebody else in an matter that did not involve this guy in anyway. There has never been any indication that he was illegally carrying, or that he pointed the gun at anybody, just that he refused to put it down when they told him to. What right did they have to tell him to put it down if he had done nothing wrong? How do they come to shoot him for not following an order that probably wasn't legal? How is this not a 2nd Amendment issue?


Yes, it is a 2 A issue. My right to carry is linked to a Black man's right to carry.

Our country is funny that way.

If cops initiate contact with me unlawfully, THEY own the consequences, up to and including my death... or theirs.

Left unchecked, it stands to reason that at some point - in the interest of officer safety, of course - they will work their way down the "profile list" to "Old Rednecks".

Everybody here is big on having guns to "resist tyranny". But when tyranny appears in the form of a City Cop instead of a Blue Helmet U.N. soldier, you all preach "comply".

There's a word for that.



With the release of the videos, we have new threads going. This one is the only one discussing the "How in hell did THIS schidt happen?" dynamic.

This combination of seeing a gun and marijuana in close proximity and the reaction to it is of particular concern to me.

See........ I smoke Bugler, carried in a tobacco pouch, and roll my own by hand when I want a cigarette. AND..... if I'm in public I've got a .41 mag on a gunbelt hidden by a long vest or coat.

Now... if young Dudley Doright Jr. suspects he's seeing an old Redneck smoking weed, based solely on the fact he sees me rolling a smoke, and feels it necessary to disarm me for "officer safety" while he satisfies his curiosity, we have a crisis in the making.

As it turns out, the nigra killed in Charlotte was a poster child for Black Thugs, BUT THE COPS DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL AFTER THEY HAD KILLED HIM.

The consensus here seems to be that we should comply with any cop's demands and rely on the Court to avenge us if we are wronged.

The Fed Gov't could disarm 90% of the population in a long weekend.

"From my cold dead hands"............. yeah, right.



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If you can't see the difference in a holstered handgun and an unholstered handgun, you probably shouldn't be carrying a handgun.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by deflave
If you can't see the difference in a holstered handgun and an unholstered handgun, you probably shouldn't be carrying a handgun.




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And if you don't believe that there are plenty of cops who freak out at the sight of an armed citizen you probably have no business in this conversation, since your response is so predictable.

When there is ZERO concern exhibited for how confrontations like this begin, it IS cause for alarm.


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Keep your head on a swivel next time you roll up some Bugler.




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I'll just give 'em the old Eastwood stare.

Yeah..... that's a good plan.


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No charges for officer in Charlotte shooting

By Max Blau, Holly Yan and Ryan Young,
CNN: November 30, 2016 5:23 PM CDT

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Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department Officer Brentley Vinson


More than two months ago, the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott sparked thousands of protesters into the streets of Charlotte. His death led to days of demonstrations including some that turned violent. They wanted justice for a black man who they felt lost his life due to excessive police force.

On Wednesday, a more subdued scene played out following the announcement that Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department Officer Brentley Vinson would not be charged for fatally shooting the 43-year-old man in an apartment complex parking lot. The decision concluded a two-month long investigation into whether the shooting was justified.

In response, about 100 protesters marched through downtown's streets Wednesday night to share their disappointment. Though they carried signs continuing to express outrage -- containing messages like "How to get away with murder: become a cop" -- the rally was tamer. Police and the press outnumbered protesters, according to CNN's Ryan Young.

"If we don't get no justice then you don't get no peace," they chanted.

Police officers arrested at least four protesters as they were attempting to corral them off the streets. Three were taken into custody for obstructing traffic -- a far cry from the dozens of arrests made during the last round of rallies.

"We support right to lawful protest," CMPD tweeted. "[The department] asks those involved to simply obey the laws."

SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT

For months, Mecklenburg County District Attorney Andrew Murray studied evidence cobbled together by state investigators, which he ran by 15 other prosecutors for extra opinions. They all agreed with his decision.

After meeting with Scott's family Wednesday morning, Murray told reporters he rejected a series of "erroneous claims" that were made in the days after the shooting. The claims fueled widespread misconceptions about what actually happened, he said.

Murray said that "all the credible evidence" led to the conclusion that Scott was armed. After the shooting, Scott's relatives said he didn't have a gun, but investigators found his DNA on the grip of a gun found at the scene.

Shortly before the shooting, Scott visited a local convenience store where surveillance video showed a bulge around Scott's ankle. Officers later described it in a way that was consistent with the shape of a holster and gun, Murray said.

Protesters had initially repeated the remarks of a woman who claimed to have seen a white officer shoot Scott. Later, however, the woman told investigators she hadn't actually seen the shooting, according to Murray. He noted that Vinson, who is black, was the only officer who shot Scott. He said an analysis of the other officers' guns showed those guns were fully loaded, while Vinson's gun was missing several bullets.

Likewise, Scott's daughter posted a video on Facebook Live after the shooting that said her father was reading a book inside his car. But the daughter wasn't a witness and no book was found at the scene, Murray said.

The prosecutor said that officers told Scott at least 10 times to drop the weapon before Vinson opened fire.

Murray said that while criminal charges are not appropriate, "I know some are going to be frustrated."

SCOTT'S FAMILY ATTORNEYS: OUR WORK ISN'T OVER

While Vinson won't face charges, Scott family attorney Charles Monnett said the decision "doesn't end our inquiry."

"We still have concerns," Monnett said. "We still have real questions about what decisions were made that day," such as whether police could have used better de-escalation techniques that may have prevented Scott's death.

Another Scott family attorney, Justin Bamberg, acknowledged that "it's safe to say he did have a gun on his person," but there was no definitive proof that he had the gun in his hand.

The district attorney said while police reported seeing Scott with both marijuana and a gun, there was no evidence to show Scott raised the gun. Regardless, Murray said, Scott "could have raised his gun at any point" to shoot officers.

TWO MONTHS OF TENSIONS

Scott's death sparked massive protests -- sometimes violent -- and fueled the national debate about whether police are too quick to use deadly force, particularly against black men.

The fact that the officer is also black doesn't matter, some Charlotte residents said.

The deadly encounter started when police said they were looking for a person with an outstanding warrant at an apartment complex. That's when Scott, 43, exited a vehicle with a gun.

'This is not a black/white thing. This is a blue/black thing'

After widespread demands for the release of dashcam video, officials released the footage in October. But it didn't tell the complete story, such as whether Scott was holding or raising a gun.

The police footage shows an officer in plain clothes with his weapon drawn on Scott. As Scott exits an SUV, he begins walking backward, prompting Vinson to fire four times.

Video taken by Scott's widow shows a different perspective of what happened -- but also doesn't tell the complete story.

In that video, a man repeatedly yells for someone -- apparently Scott -- to "drop the gun."

"He doesn't have a gun. He has a TBI (traumatic brain injury)," Rakeyia Scott says, referencing an injury Scott suffered in a motorcycle accident. "He's not going to do anything to you guys. He just took his medicine."

Tests of Scott's blood indicated the presence of diazepam, amantadine, babapentin, nicotine, nordiazepam and promethazine. Scott's family attorney said the drugs were being used to treat Scott's traumatic brain injury.

"We ask that everyone work together to fix the system that allowed this tragedy to happen in the first place," the Scott family said in a statement.

CLOSED INVESTIGATION, OPEN EARS

Back in September, Charlotte police officers had a major revelation following the death of Scott: Protesters perceived them as indifferent or apathetic to their concerns. CMPD does not allow officers who perform crowd control to hold conversations as they hold formation.

To help change that perception, CMPD formed groups known as "Constructive Conversation Teams" that meet with protesters in the streets to answer their questions and talk with people who they're sworn to protect. They hope the effort reduces the level of police tensions throughout the city.

"These teams are listening to concerns, answering questions and engaging in constructive conversations with people," a police statement said.

On Wednesday night, a handful of protesters mingled with police officers wearing bright yellow safety vests, making small talk in an attempt to build trust in the community. It was a start. For at least one night, protesters didn't need a megaphone to be heard.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by readonly

North Carolina is an open carry state. The cops saw him carrying a gun, when they were looking for somebody else in an matter that did not involve this guy in anyway. There has never been any indication that he was illegally carrying, or that he pointed the gun at anybody, just that he refused to put it down when they told him to. What right did they have to tell him to put it down if he had done nothing wrong? How do they come to shoot him for not following an order that probably wasn't legal? How is this not a 2nd Amendment issue?


Yes, it is a 2 A issue. My right to carry is linked to a Black man's right to carry.....

Everybody here is big on having guns to "resist tyranny". But when tyranny appears in the form of a City Cop
instead of a Blue Helmet U.N. soldier, you all preach "comply"....



Some are simply blowhard gas-baggers that deep down would actually relish serving as enforcers of an
oppressive tyrannical jack-boot police state. Despots typically recruit the mostly irrelevant people from a
civilian population to do their nasty work because all it takes is a little of power to go right to their heads.


Originally Posted by Slim_Sr

It's just odd that every time the cop is in the right or a cop is shot the videos quality is crystal clear. ...
but when the cop is at fault or made a bad judgement call, the video is bad quality .....or should I say "tampered with".


The video of a North Charleston cop shooting an unarmed man in the back 8 times is clear enough.


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