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I believe religion is a personal thing and nothing i hate worst is for someone telling me i'm going to hell because i don't believe or think like they do.


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Originally Posted by Gitsum
Notice the absence of imperical data being forwarded?


What scientific data could we give you that you would believe?

There is irrefutable evidence that the earth is billions of years old and that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, and yet folks still believe the earth is 6 thousand years old and that dinosaurs lived alongside man.

It is impossible to prove god dose not exist, but even if it was possible, you would not believe the evidence you're given.

Your faith blinds you to all reason and logic. You believe only what you want to believe.





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Originally Posted by bea175
I believe religion is a personal thing and nothing i hate worst is for someone telling me i'm going to hell because i don't believe or think like they do.


I don't care one lick if someone thinks my religious views necessitate an eternity in hell or if they call em fairy tales.

Never understood how one can prove that God doesn't exist or that He didn't have a role in creation through empirical data, yet I hear "proof! Proof!" from the anti-God crowd.

Doesn't make sense, but whatever; no "hatred" here. Besides, anyone who can't deal w/ people not making sense will have a lot better reasons to freak than these in today's day and age and I bet that's something upon which we can all agree.

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Originally Posted by justin10mm
Originally Posted by Gitsum
Notice the absence of imperical data being forwarded?


What scientific data could we give you that you would believe?

There is irrefutable evidence that the earth is billions of years old and that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, and yet folks still believe the earth is 6 thousand years old and that dinosaurs lived alongside man.

It is impossible to prove god dose not exist, but even if it was possible, you would not believe the evidence you're given.

Your faith blinds you to all reason and logic. You believe only what you want to believe.






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Originally Posted by justin10mm
Originally Posted by Gitsum
Notice the absence of imperical data being forwarded?

What scientific data could we give you that you would believe?
There is irrefutable evidence that the earth is billions of years old and that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, and yet folks still believe the earth is 6 thousand years old and that dinosaurs lived alongside man. It is impossible to prove god dose not exist, but even if it was possible, you would not believe the evidence you're given. Your faith blinds you to all reason and logic. You believe only what you want to believe.

This post reveals at least two things: 1.) Regarding "irrefutable", someone may wish to study some recently emerging findings. 2.) Someone assumes the power to read the minds and measure the faith of others.


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Originally Posted by Gitsum
Notice the absence of imperical data being forwarded?


From the way you masterfully structure your argument, one can surmise that you must have been a championship debater in bible college.

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Your faith blinds you to all reason and logic. You believe only what you want to believe.
BS big time. You sound like a lieberal. Not an insult: fact. Because I have faith I am blind to all reason and all logic, or just the reason and logic pertaining to what we disagree on? You can't even see or understand that due to factors in experiences or upbringing, we process information differently? Where is the reason and logic in that? I believe what you wrote as using more emotion than reason and logic and I believe that because I believe you're better than that.



We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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It seems like...a lot of the time...we consistently look for evidence to support what we already believe, and we consistently filter out anything to the contrary.


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When we stop exporting any goods and have no money to move around ("information economy") or rich guy's butts to kiss ("service industry") our GNP can be measured in sensitivity and offense and it'Il be the hard core Christians duking it out with the hard core Secularists for top producer status.

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Originally Posted by antlers
It seems like...a lot of the time...we consistently look for evidence to support what we already believe, and we consistently filter out anything to the contrary.


Exactly,and it works both ways.

There's a well known PHD that has fossils of dinosaur prints right alongside human prints but anyone who doesn't believe that possible will simply dismiss it as a hoax or fake, or try to find some way it could exist and still support their position.

I could explain bibically how the earth could be billions of years old and how man could be older than 6000 years and the Genesis account still be true,but an atheist won't even consider it because it doesn't fit his belief.

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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today... Aha-ah...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... You...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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Don't forget if there's nothing worth dying for then ya got no reason to live either.

That's got to be the most overrated song ever.

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Originally Posted by persiandog
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today... Aha-ah...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... You...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one


Yep, that Godless bastid gave away all his possessions and money to help the poor. No that's right he didn't. I must have been thinking of someone else who actually believed in God.

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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I almost feel guilty starting a thread like this.........

Almost.


LOL laugh


"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence". John Adams

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Originally Posted by efw
Don't forget if there's nothing worth dying for then ya got no reason to live either.

That's got to be the most overrated song ever.


it says "Imagine".

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by persiandog
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
... You...
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Yep, that Godless bastid gave away all his possessions and money to help the poor. No that's right he didn't. I must have been thinking of someone else who actually believed in God.


people like him stopped a war , what did your generation do ?

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by persiandog
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
... You...
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Yep, that Godless bastid gave away all his possessions and money to help the poor. No that's right he didn't. I must have been thinking of someone else who actually believed in God.


people like him stopped a war , what did your generation do ?



We won the war!

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Originally Posted by persiandog
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try - - - - - And the world will live as one

I remember some of these as the lyrics to a rather trite song written by an overpaid rock star. I'd like to understand, so kindly explain. Did you post this as a paean for some set of values, or as a reminder of the limitations of mankind and the silliness of an earthly utopia, or ??


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Scientific "truths" are always subject to change as more information becomes available.

Once a man discovers that he indeed has a Creator, and that his Creator takes an interest in him, personally, that becomes a settled matter. It becomes the Great Fact in the man's life.

His concept of his Creator may change over time, but the existence of hos Creator is beyond question.

Faith has become belief.

The evidence is in the man's mind and is not subject to review.

As far as approaching it from a scientific angle, Dr. William James did that over a hundred years ago. I doubt that any of our resident Atheists have read his "Varieties of Religious Experiences" in its entirety.

It's more fun for them to argue with Ringman.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
If billions of people believe the earth is flat does that make it so?


Most people believed the earth was flat. But the Bible believers knew it was spherical and the north was hung on nothing.


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