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My father in law hunted exclusively with the 220 swift. It was almost 20 years ago my father in law passed. In the 6 years I was blessed to hunt with him it was the only rifle he use. He had taken 17 elk with the 220 swift. It seems recently there has been a lot of interest in whether or not anyone will offer a properly twisted 22-250. Me, I think Im going to stick with my 8 twist 223 and the 60 grain partition
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Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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The 22 cal's are not legal in most states for hunting elk, as you suggest. However since you are asking about "big game", they work great on deer where it is legal to use them...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I've used both, but quit because the bullets kept bouncing off... 
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I wouldn't shoot a bull elk with either of those. Maybe a calf if I was starving and it was the only gun available.
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The 22 cal's are not legal in most states for hunting elk, as you suggest. However since you are asking about "big game", they work great on deer where it is legal to use them... In Montana there is no caliber restriction for big game other than as specified for shotguns Trystan
Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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That's cool 17 elk with a swift. Guess he didn't read where guys who hadn't shot elk with one(maybe no elk with anything) said it was a poor choice. Maybe something to that whole shot placement thing.
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My father in law hunted exclusively with the 220 swift. It was almost 20 years ago my father in law passed. In the 6 years I was blessed to hunt with him it was the only rifle he use. He had taken 17 elk with the 220 swift. It seems recently there has been a lot of interest in whether or not anyone will offer a properly twisted 22-250. Me, I think Im going to stick with my 8 twist 223 and the 60 grain partition
Trystan The 60 grain partition should stabilize in a 12 twist and there are several .22-250's with 12 twist on the market. Other tough bullets that will stabilize in a 12 twist are the 50 gr Barnes TTSX the 45 and 53 gr TSX, the 64 gr. Win power point and the 50 gr. Hornady GMX.
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Idaho has no caliber restrictions either...as long as it is a centerfire. A .17 Hornet is perfectly legal for elk.
As to the 22-250 vs 223, I have killed plenty of deer and antelope with both. Never saw much a difference but I do think speed helps with the .22 cals for bigger critters. The smallest I have killed an elk with is a 6mm, and it worked just as well as anything else.
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I think you are right on, Id stick with the 8 twist .223 before a 14 twist .22-250.
If you can get a tight twist .22-250 you might want to give it a go... Im sure it will work...
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Either cartridge will grab 'em by the pussy but I've never found anything wrong with more speed.
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Plenty of game has been killed with 22 caliber cartridges, but dead is sometimes better with a larger caliber. People will continue to hunt big game with small calibers with plenty of passion that they are suitable.
If there wasn't some truth to larger calibers having better killing power, there wouldn't be any limitations on acceptable cartridges in Africa.
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Plenty of game has been killed with 22 caliber cartridges, but dead is sometimes better with a larger caliber. People will continue to hunt big game with small calibers with plenty of passion that they are suitable.
If there wasn't some truth to larger calibers having better killing power, there wouldn't be any limitations on acceptable cartridges in Africa. Compelling, 3rd world shietholes are the bar by which we should judge. Tell me your mom swallowed the other loads.
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Of course the resident know it all with a filthy mouth and less experience on anything but Sitka deer and Alaska weather, continues to pontificate. Your experience is unarguable with the time you have spent posting on the Campfire, but your real life experience would be a best seller on the fiction shelf at any cheap bookstore.
Come on with something else you pathetic loser. Being highest posting member of the Campfire will be all that anyone will see written on your tombstone and even Kentucky would prefer it doesn't end up there.
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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Plenty of game has been killed with 22 caliber cartridges, but dead is sometimes better with a larger caliber. People will continue to hunt big game with small calibers with plenty of passion that they are suitable.
If there wasn't some truth to larger calibers having better killing power, there wouldn't be any limitations on acceptable cartridges in Africa. Ever swallowed a grenade?
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Of course the resident know it all with a filthy mouth and less experience on anything but Sitka deer and Alaska weather, continues to pontificate. Your experience is unarguable with the time you have spent posting on the Campfire, but your real life experience would be a best seller on the fiction shelf at any cheap bookstore.
Come on with something else you pathetic loser. Being highest posting member of the Campfire will be all that anyone will see written on your tombstone and even Kentucky would prefer it doesn't end up there. Is that a yes?
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Plenty of game has been killed with 22 caliber cartridges, but dead is sometimes better with a larger caliber. People will continue to hunt big game with small calibers with plenty of passion that they are suitable.
If there wasn't some truth to larger calibers having better killing power, there wouldn't be any limitations on acceptable cartridges in Africa. Ever swallowed a grenade? You saying a grenade is worse than a 223?
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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Plenty of game has been killed with 22 caliber cartridges, but dead is sometimes better with a larger caliber. People will continue to hunt big game with small calibers with plenty of passion that they are suitable.
If there wasn't some truth to larger calibers having better killing power, there wouldn't be any limitations on acceptable cartridges in Africa. That's really stupid. Fave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Plenty of game has been killed with 22 caliber cartridges, but dead is sometimes better with a larger caliber. People will continue to hunt big game with small calibers with plenty of passion that they are suitable.
If there wasn't some truth to larger calibers having better killing power, there wouldn't be any limitations on acceptable cartridges in Africa. Ever swallowed a grenade? You saying a grenade is worse than a 223? Yep, you are a stupid son of a BITCH.
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Tell me your mom swallowed the other loads.
You are a real piece of work. You want to insult people with these kind of comments, I would like to see it when you said that to the right person and not safe at home with your computer.
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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Tell me your mom swallowed the other loads.
You are a real piece of work. You want to insult people with these kind of comments, I would like to see it when you said that to the right person and not safe at home with your computer. I'm sure you're just as much of a dumbshiet in person. Guessing it hurts, but you're too f*ckig stupid to know.
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