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The 375 H&H is arguably the best all around cartridge ever... I guess you could make that argument. But not really, in the context of the OP. What ? Context, on the fire ? incidentally I agree with you. Jerry
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Exactly......
What it ain't......it doesn"RECOIL" a lot What it is.........it "KILLS" a lot
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I think this the 3rd X I've said this IN this thread. I LIKE the 7-08. I have NO argument against it. Jerry
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I bought a 7mm-08, once, took it to my Smith without ever shooting it, chambered to 284 Win, no one will ever convince me this wasn't the right decision.
20 degree shoulder is just wrong. When you did so Boise....what was the chosen R.O.T. ? R.O.T.?? R.O.T Rate of twist.
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someone asked about federal fusion 140 gr partition. My wife shot a pronghorn and 300 lb mule deer with those bullets, worked well. Sorry not an elk (yet, she'll get there!)
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I bought a 7mm-08, once, took it to my Smith without ever shooting it, chambered to 284 Win, no one will ever convince me this wasn't the right decision.
20 degree shoulder is just wrong. When you did so Boise....what was the chosen R.O.T. ? R.O.T.?? R.O.T Rate of twist. Had the factory barrel rechambered, I don't recall the factory twist. It shoots 120's, 140, and 145 equally well; not a tack driver but have killed bison to squirrels.
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Its the best thing on a 308 case. I think you could make that same argument for the 260. IMO, the advantage of the 7-08 is heavier bullets for bigger stuff, so for deer I prefer the 260. Especially if you get one with the right magazine length, 3 inches. Yes....true. But....the 260 wasn't around when I formed my frame of reference,and when it showed up my attitude was..."here we go again.....something else I don't need". It mighta been a perfect silhouette cartridge for Jim Carmichael to plink with,but when it came time to go BG hunting worldwide, Jim didn't take a 260.....he packed a 280..... Honestly you can't go chasing after ever single duplicitous, overlapping,redundant, reinvented cartridge the factories shove down your throat........or can you!??? After doing it myself I found it substantial waste of time and energy. My emphasis was not to so much play with cartridges as it was to go hunting. I think I never fell in love with any of these short 6.5-7mm's is because I'd figured out by 1980 or so how to make 7 pound 270's and 280's etc, so they offered no advantage to me. Another "different folks, different strokes" thread. I like "different", so I don't mind chasing after duplicitous, overlapping, redundant, reinvented cartridges as it (mostly) keeps me out of trouble and in my Wife's good graces. I'm not in the business of championing any particular consumer product, to each his own I say. But I'm mostly indifferent to other folk and what they do.
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I'm on my second 7-08, both have been Tikka's. I can't say that it kills any better than anything else that came from the .308 case, but it's super easy to load for and my new superlite has been more than accurate enough. I get 1/2 moa with varget and 120 bt's and shot easy1/2 inch with the hornady precision hunter this afternoon. I bought it for my daughter and if I ever get done killing deer with it, I may give it to her.
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The 375 H&H is arguably the best all around cartridge ever... I guess you could make that argument. But not really, in the context of the OP. You guess well. I was referring to the analogy of a good cartridge not necessarily being a top seller for a variety of reasons, one of which is in the continental US, there is little reason to own one.. But here, let me help you out some more: CONTEXT: Easily in the top 5 list of cartridges. NO ! Not according to Top 10 Ammo sales >> OR Top 10 Reloading Die Sales. The 7-08 is not even in the Top 10 of either. Jerry Your stupid never fails to impress.
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Its the best thing on a 308 case. I think you could make that same argument for the 260. IMO, the advantage of the 7-08 is heavier bullets for bigger stuff, so for deer I prefer the 260. Especially if you get one with the right magazine length, 3 inches. Yes....true. But....the 260 wasn't around when I formed my frame of reference,and when it showed up my attitude was..."here we go again.....something else I don't need". It mighta been a perfect silhouette cartridge for Jim Carmichael to plink with,but when it came time to go BG hunting worldwide, Jim didn't take a 260.....he packed a 280..... Honestly you can't go chasing after ever single duplicitous, overlapping,redundant, reinvented cartridge the factories shove down your throat........or can you!??? After doing it myself I found it substantial waste of time and energy. My emphasis was not to so much play with cartridges as it was to go hunting. I think I never fell in love with any of these short 6.5-7mm's is because I'd figured out by 1980 or so how to make 7 pound 270's and 280's etc, so they offered no advantage to me. Is this a 280 that you are showing Carmichael?
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Of course BobinNH went to school with Don aka Savage99 aka Chuck Hawks.
Bob is BEYOND understanding that sheit changes over the years.
You figured out something in 1980, holy fu*cking balls, what a dumb SOB you are.
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Of course BobinNH went to school with Don aka Savage99 aka Chuck Hawks.
Bob is BEYOND understanding that sheit changes over the years.
You figured out something in 1980, holy fu*cking balls, what a dumb SOB you are.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Of course BobinNH went to school with Don aka Savage99 aka Chuck Hawks.
Bob is BEYOND understanding that sheit changes over the years.
You figured out something in 1980, holy fu*cking balls, what a dumb SOB you are.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Of course BobinNH went to school with Don aka Savage99 aka Chuck Hawks.
Bob is BEYOND understanding that sheit changes over the years.
You figured out something in 1980, holy fu*cking balls, what a dumb SOB you are. LMAO....so pathetic. I don't know why you're so upset....I mean I used the 7/08 quite a bit and thought.....even back then....that it was one of the Top Five BG cartridges of all times...and I still firmly believe that. Right?
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I have a certain fondness for the 7-08, as my username reveals. The first big game rifle I had made with a good custom barrel is a LH short 700 with a Pac-Nor dup of the factory sporter contour. It was the first big game rifle that would shoot .5-.75" groups day in and day out. When I was living in western Oregon, I thought it was a perfect cartridge for the ranges I was shooting there.
I regard it as a more modern version of both the 7x57 (fits a short action better) and a .308 (less recoil paired with better BC bullets.) And before the fans of those cartridges wig out, I do have guns chambered for both of those rounds.
Now that I hunt more in UT, WY, MT, and CO, I tend to grab rifles chambered for cartridges like the .257 Wby or the 7mm Rem mag because I think they give me a little more range. But in reality, there is probably only one animal I have shot in the last decade for which the 7-08 would not have done the job just as well.
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Bob is BEYOND understanding that sheit changes over the years.
You figured out something in 1980, holy fu*cking balls, what a dumb SOB you are.
LMAO....so pathetic. I don't know why you're so upset....I mean I used the 7/08 quite a bit and thought.....even back then....that it was one of the Top Five BG cartridges of all times...and I still firmly believe that. Right? Im just surprised the first few pages went so smooth. Lol..... Steelhead is correct though.....things did change....like the shape of the case that propelled the bullet to the same exact velocity as a 7X57
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I've found that the 7mm-08 is much like the 308 in that it's not fussy, doesn't burn a lot of powder, and does not need premium bullets to work very well on game. Never owned a 7x57, but it sounds like it has also done a lot with a little. I think the 7mm-08 is best in handy rifles with 22" or shorter barrels.
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I've found that the 7mm-08 is much like the 308 in that it's not fussy, doesn't burn a lot of powder, and does not need premium bullets to work very well on game. Never owned a 7x57, but it sounds like it has also done a lot with a little. I think the 7mm-08 is best in handy rifles with 22" or shorter barrels. +1, my favorite cartridge over the last 10 years. Accurate, doesn't kick much and just kills well. I have not experimented with a lot of bullets and have done so well with the Hornady 154 RN and SP, its difficult to try anything else. I do like the 308 as well, but have a soft spot for the 7 I own or have owned 4, longest barrel on any was 21". Does well as do all 308 based rounds in carbine form As far as a bruised shoulder from shooting, its not the cartridge
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Of course BobinNH went to school with Don aka Savage99 aka Chuck Hawks.
Bob is BEYOND understanding that sheit changes over the years.
You figured out something in 1980, holy fu*cking balls, what a dumb SOB you are. LMAO....so pathetic. I don't know why you're so upset....I mean I used the 7/08 quite a bit and thought.....even back then....that it was one of the Top Five BG cartridges of all times...and I still firmly believe that. Right? I have gone through 4 or 5, 7mm-08s, but the one that I still own is a 7x57 from Melvin Forbes. donsm70
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I have a couple of7MM-08"s several 7X57's and a 308. I can't recall a deer (white tail or muley) or antelope that has cared what he got shot with, he just died. That being said I also have a fondness for the 257R.
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