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<br>I can use those words and more, freely, yet generally don't. I expect Ken has a vocabulary to exceed or match mine. They sound contrived because simpler, or at least more common, words are available. Few of those will even be in a standard dictionary.
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<br>My point, if I really have one, is that there are conversations at all levels going on all the time. Do you think "goo-gooing" for a baby does it any good in learning language? Might it do harm? Ken has stated eloquently why he feels, through respect for potential readers, the need to write clearly, and slighted by those not respecting him enough to return the honor.
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<br>I was simply trying to show what pretentious word use sounds like when mixed with pedestrian language...
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Sound contrived? Nahhhhhh, not in the least. [Linked Image]
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<br>I agree with Ken on many levels but also recongnize that language not only needs to be clear, and succinct to be accurate, but also must be spoken on the same levels as the others in the group or it will sound pretentious. Besides, if a common word can convey the same meaning, why use a word that most will not understand, regardless of your superior vocabulary.
<br>While I find that when I talk to people knowledgable in my trade about electrical theory, I use one set of vocabulary that I wouldn't waste my time using with someone without the background to understand what I am talking about. I'm sure you and others do the same- much as language is bantied around here in a seemingly careless manner at times. That isn't meant to imply that contrived language is acceptable as a way to communicate just because someone might think it "cute". Any language that is a chore to decipher is bound to be eventually overlooked or ignored and the speaker (typist) as well.
<br>However, when humor comes into play in a reply, as it often does on these forums, all rules go away and all that is really needed to understand and appreciate it is a sense of humor- at least with most "humorous" posts.
<br>I find that the general discourse on these boards is usually cordial and understandable enough to be beyond criticism and only a few posters really post baffling vocabulary, punctuation, and meaningless drivel- either by design or by ignorance. The result is basically the same. It would seem that more would be accomplished and, therefore conveyed, if the proper structure and context of language was used. Good conversation doesn't flow easily from stilted language, be it typed or spoken.
<br>The more specific the subject, the higher the need for specificity and proper, clear description.
<br>Just my 2.5 Peso's worth- Bob


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<br>I consider you one the better writers on this forum because you are clear and easy to understand. My first rule of good writing is clarity. Spelling, grammar, punctuation and vocabulary all contribute to the reader understanding what he's reading as he reads, without struggle to decifer nonstandard spellings, ambiguous meanings, etc. Of course, it also helps when the writer knows what he is talking about ;-)
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<br>I don't type especially well, and I don't always take the time to proof read as thoroughly as I would on a less relaxed forum, which imposes on all your forbearace a bit.

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Boy oh boy, this is better than 30-06 vers 270 any day.
<br>Ken, sorry you took it so personal.
<br>Art, didn't know they talked that way "Up North In Alaska".
<br>Shiester, nice perception.
<br>no, why don't you behave?


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Ken,
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<br>We all have our own priorities and preferences in how we write, speak, behave, and read. These priorities and preferences are influenced by our background, education, vocation, etc. To me the most important goal is "clear communication." I think your first goal is the same.
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<br>I like direct, clear, simple words that accurately convey meaning. I prefer emotion to kept out when the purpose is to convey information. To me, the simpler the words, the better understanding the writer/speaker has of his topic. Also, correct grammer usually makes for easier understanding.
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<br>Many folks post things to show off knowledge, prove they are smart, funny...whatever. I think most of us have been guilty of this a time or two. Some folks love the ebb and flow of the language, and choose words accordingly. Sometimes a person prioritizes this ebb and flow over clear communication, sometimes it's showing off knowledge, sometimes its' proving they are smaert and clever. To me, choosing anything other than clear communication as the first priority is a foul.
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<br>I think your first priority is clear and precise communication. I think your next priority is correct grammar. I also think--based on your background as a writer--you enjoy the ebb and flow of the language, and as such craft your words to include this ebb and flow. However, you don't let this preference interfere with clear, precise communication and proper grammar.
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<br>Anyway, that's my guess as to why you write as you do. Your writing is definitely worth reading, and I think the vast majority of us here feel that way.
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<br>BTW, I don't belong here either, but since I'll never belong anywhere in this life, I might as well hang out with folks who share my hobby.
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<br>Sir, I understand your reluctance to speak the Queen's English, only question your orienteering skills in that you think you would need to lower your language standard to do so...
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Ken, right on. I only wish I were as elequent as you, if I try perhaps someday...
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<br> I think that everyone on this board is a society misfit. Me included. We are all different. But watch what you say about us Texans. You are likely to make one mad and he will only let you drink the pearl light beer a not the Budweiser. Just jokin, my friends.
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Did that one lose anyone other than me?
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What bugs me most in posts is posts like this with nearly 100 responces griping about what bugs you and no one even mentions things like the percent of ash in dog food or filler in laundry soap, are not these things important to you guys. Or the real gripe of the time: Cheap imported duct tape. Man here is the invention of past fifty years and you guys let the imported stuff be called "Duct Tape" for shame. Schiester you are right the guys who change the subject are annoying....[Linked Image]
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And one more thing....the finest guitar player ever to pluck a string with an insisor came from right here in the Pacific Northwest....The One....The Only....The Incoprable.... Jimi Hendrix. If you don't believe me just take a listen to "Little Wing"
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Well you could say what bugs me is people that have "nothing" to say. [Linked Image]
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Partsman, yeah I think I said it all...
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<br>I take exception too that.Hendrix ranks second in my book.The number one spot ties a bloke from London and a redneck from Georgia.
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<br>If you don't belive me,just listen to a song called "Layla".You can hear both of them playing on that one.
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Ken, I say I apologize for the striking or your main nerve. I didn't realize a man of your supposed stature and importance would be so annoyed by a little ol' post. I sorry I brought you down to my level and forced you to resort to name calling and accusations of maliciousness. As for the looking down on people, and your posts and opinions telling the masses likewise. I am of the opinion that you reek of arrogance and snobbery.You may never have been taught to talk down to people, but thru all your teaching and writings, in my humble and absolutely insignificant opinion you do!!! As for your post to need one. What a bunch of pretentious poppycock. You are absolutely full of yourself , get over it and get a real life. By the way; most of us probably have spellcheck and grammar correct on our computers as I am sure you do. It probably is just not that important for the masses. I don' have proofreaders and editors at my disposal for help either when I come across a tough question or situation. These forums are mostly opinions. I will feel free to speak mine. If you don't like it, so be it. And quit your whining about Muleskinner.
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AND I HATE people that make personal attacks........................reeks of TROLLISM! Some need to take their own advise and get a life themselves, 'nuff said!


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Ihate, your handle aptly describes your nature, doesn't it? Why not just shorten it to "Ihate?" Hatefulness seems to be your most prolific quality. Go crawl back under your rock, but stay there this time! Let me guess, your "other" handle is Cuzzinmitch? If not, I hear he's looking for a boyfriend. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to hook the two of you up. You're a match made in hell!

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Another thread succumbs to the tide of piss............

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