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A lot of guys would be out of business if it wasn't for Federal crop insurance, drought/disaster aid, etc..
Understood. It just should be a private sector responsibility. A LOT of them get rich playing the system too.
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Has Trump finished hiring all of the White House staff or others he will need to run his administration?
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that the Federal Government, ... vastly over staffed. I can tell you for a fact not all agencies are. Which ones? They may be understaffed to do what their job requires. The question is ,how necessary is that job in the first place. Social Security. Way understaffed for the workload.
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Social Security. Way understaffed for the workload. [/quote]
If they pulled all of the agents off from doing Obummer deeds they would have a lot more workers to do the real work that needs to be done.
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This a huge eff up.
Wait until getting a tax stamp for a suppressor takes a couple years.
And most Federal agencies are understaffed due to the Sequestration.
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. . . Are there lazy government workers - YES
Are there lazy workers in the private sector - YES
Is there waste in government offices - YES . . . The difference is the lazy private sector employees can be fired. The lazy government workers cannot. Big difference.
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. . . Are there lazy government workers - YES
Are there lazy workers in the private sector - YES
Is there waste in government offices - YES . . . The difference is the lazy private sector employees can be fired. The lazy government workers cannot. Big difference. This 100%
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Getting rid of affirmative action and said employees who are not doing their jobs for whatever reason would take a few percentage points off the Federal employment rolls right there.
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Getting rid of affirmative action and said employees who are not doing their jobs for whatever reason would take a few percentage points off the Federal employment rolls right there. Hiring freeze, yes. Firing 10% a month of the lazy slugs and wall leaners yes.
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This a huge eff up.
Wait until getting a tax stamp for a suppressor takes a couple years.
And most Federal agencies are understaffed due to the Sequestration. Simple answer....legalize em.... Regulating them the way they do doesn't save one fuggin life...all it does is create revenue to pay for the idiots issuing them and take money out of hard working "honest" folks' pockets... Less regulation and smaller gubment is ALWAYS the answer....
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An across the board freeze is indeed a bad deal. Our shop was just getting started on interviews for 4 badly needed positions, and this will eventually require an 18 month do over when priorities are eventually established. It's a great method for driving seriously talented employees away.
About 30 years back I got hired just ahead of a freeze. Other newbies got off a plane to report the next day and found they had no job.
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1minute - - - when I was in the Marines we always were underfunded and undermanned, but we accomplished our mission successfully anyway. There were no excuses for not accomplishing our mission. Civilian federal workers have to do the same thing. We can't afford our current government.
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free interprise has ups and downs
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An across the board freeze is indeed a bad deal. Our shop was just getting started on interviews for 4 badly needed positions, and this will eventually require an 18 month do over when priorities are eventually established. It's a great method for driving seriously talented employees away.
About 30 years back I got hired just ahead of a freeze. Other newbies got off a plane and found they had no job. 30 year federal employee? Now I understand why you were so adamantly against the Malheur Occupation. Hit close to home.
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Gotta start somewhere and over time balance will come. It'll be painful for those whose bread is buttered by Uncle Sugar.
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How about we get rid of the effing requirement for a tax stamp for a suppressor-problem solved.
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1minute - - - when I was in the Marines we always were underfunded and undermanned, but we accomplished our mission successfully anyway. There were no excuses for not accomplishing our mission. Civilian federal workers have to do the same thing. We can't afford our current government. Yeah but you were allowed to kill those who got in your way! Thanks for your service.
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. . . Are there lazy government workers - YES
Are there lazy workers in the private sector - YES
Is there waste in government offices - YES . . . The difference is the lazy private sector employees can be fired. The lazy government workers cannot. Big difference. Fed Govt worker here...and as much as I think this hiring freeze is dumb, I would LOVE to see the rules changed to make it easier to fire some of the govt workers that NEED to be fired. Right now, it is easier and cheaper to just let them retire. I've worked with completely useless and incompetent private sector workers and govt workers. The "good" govt people do a lot more for folks like us on this site than a lot of people think.
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1minute - - - when I was in the Marines we always were underfunded and undermanned, but we accomplished our mission successfully anyway. There were no excuses for not accomplishing our mission. Civilian federal workers have to do the same thing. We can't afford our current government. Now that's just stupid on several levels. Huge difference between what an active duty person can be forced to do and what a civilian can. The federal government already pays less for certain professionals. Treating them more like [bleep] won't retain the good ones and won't get better work out of the bad ones. Also, just because you were treated like [bleep] doesn't mean it was right and should be continued. Next you will be complaining about the VA not doing something for you, even though they are understaffed and not able to hire new employees.
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30 year federal employee? Did not say that. The past 30 years have included military, 10 years of college, private, federal, and state. Not seen everything, but I've seen a lot. Speaking of the Occupation, they should be having their first annual reunion or maybe a reenactment. Probably a cast of thousands on the way. Sadly none of their ilk were successful in the recent elections.
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