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Nice of pot consumers and growers to impose their lifestyle choices and it's resultant problems on the rest of society. Oh, I forgot, pot use is a victimless crime. Silly me.

Pot causes anxiety & depression. You can see it's acute form when someone is post-high or, as they say, "burnt out". Eventually that condition becomes chronic.



I support developing useful meds from it.

Man, I love talking to cops, firemen and medical pros - they have the best stories!

I've never seen pot cause anxiety and depression. Burnouts are the most laid back, don't get upset at anything folks I've ever known.

Hard on the liver too, right? My sisters gut is shot from nsaids too, she can't take them. A co-worker was confronted by a work comp doc about his heart and HBP and the fact that Jim looked like he was made of barbed wire wrapped in rawhide and assumed he was a tweaker. His burned out gut made him lose weight too. He went round and round with the doc until he mentioned otc nsaids he ate like m&ms. The doc was offering full confidentiality to get him in rehab. Nasty stuff them nsaids.

The ONLY way this will happen is if Cannabis is taken off the Schedule I drug list. Until then, no research will be done..

That's really the conversation - where do you want the control to be? At the federal, state or local level?

Does someone like a nationwide education policy? How about regulating homosexual marriage at the federal level so every state has to accept the will of Washington in that matter? Or would you rather have those decisions at the state level?

If California wants to let folks smoke dope while two men who identify as women engage in transgendered lesbian sex in the girls bathroom, that's for Californians to decide. If folks in Nebraska or Idaho or Michigan don't like that, why should they have to put up with it?

The red herring that always gets caught in these arguments is whether pot is good or bad or indifferent. We have these threads over and over and the same players post the same things, no one ever changes their opinion. But if you hate it or not, why let the federal government make a one size fits all policy toward it?

Why not let the residents of a state decide for themselves on each and every one of these social issues? There are still dry counties in the country where the sale of alcohol is banned, in other places it's allowed under different circumstances. In Idaho only state liquor stores can sell hard liquor, in Florida private stores are licensed to sell it.

Oregon allows the sale of recreational marijuana but allowed counties to opt out, that's why you see tons of pot shops in Western Oregon but Malheur county in very conservative Eastern Oregon has none. Bravo! They let the folks make the decision at the most local level possible.

Each state decided these social issues for themselves - pot or alcohol- and if they want to change it they can do so at the state level, and if the states are smart and it's feasible they delegate that decision down to an even more local level.


Just get the damn federal government out of these social issues. In fact get the damn federal government out of everything except those things that is beyond the power of individual states to effectively control, like national defense or interstate highways.


There will always be people who f*ck up their lives.
There will always be people who allow their irresponsibility to harm others.
And there will always be people who want more and more government - but ONLY when it controls all of those other irresponsible ass holes - leave MY liberty alone, thank you very much.


The government that governs least governs best.

Your lack of the ability to stay focused on the facts, and stay on point with the subject....clearly suggests you're smoking a "fattie".

You are hopelessly lost in your own delusion, there is seriously something wrong with your mental capacity.

For the 10th time, it's LEGAL in 28 states including DC...take it up with your local congressman.

Jim gets it, bravo Sir

Really great Christian attitude there wanting to judge me by something you know I said I quit over 19 years ago. Nothing respectful about that.

The sticking your head in the sand is your thinking the problem is fixed because you make it illegal,but you already know that. You don't have a good argument so you resorted to questioning my character. I really expected better from you.

What I'd like to see is some incentive for people not to abuse drugs of any kind, some creative incentive. I'll throw some wild ass sheit out as an example, possibly a poor example, but you get the idea.

Real punishment for repeat offenders that damage society. Actual restitution, not $ paid to the govt but work and effort paid back to society, preferably in drug use prevention and reparations. Scrubbing graffiti off of walls, lecturing kids in school about the damage drugs do in society, working at charities like community gardens.

Work programs that hurt, busting rocks into gravel with a sledgehammer. Cutting firewood for elderly people. Building trails. Cleaning ditches, developing wetlands projects, reforestation after a fire, maintaining public buildings and grounds to save taxpayer dollars.

Education on the effects of drug use. Classroom time. Photos of carnage caused by drug use. Hundreds of hours of it so it sinks in.

Public caning for chronic offenders. Pain is a fantastic teacher.

Going the other way, how about incentives to stay clean? What if there were advantages for testing negative for chronic abusers?

Tax incentives, education incentives, home loan incentives, car loan incentives, I don't know, use your imagination. If drug abusers are going to cost us X amount of dollars for their abuse of chemicals, invest a portion of that into cleaning them up. Give them a reason to stay clean, as many reasons as imagination can come up with. Doesn't have to be money. Lots of ways to reward people for positive behavior.


but instead, with leadership like O gave us, he condoned bad behavior and encouraged unhealthy lifestyles. it starts from the top. We need anti-drug leadership and unyielding standards for society that take us BACK, yes back, to a time when people acknowledged some behaviors are harmful and shouldn't be encouraged.

What we've got in America is a society that has grown accustomed to destructive behavior with not enough negative consequences for it. Whether it's crime or drug use, there should be strong incentive to maintain a healthy lifestyle and make good choices.

What's sad is it's gone on so long now we find ourselves in a position where the people no longer police themselves and make healthy choices, but the govt needs to step in and say, "ENOUGH!".

On the subject of pot heads, they are worthless chits on the jobsite... now meth heads, them sum'bitchs will go gang busters until they drop, if you can keep them in the right direction.

I'm sure pot heads make good MBAs and such.

Kent

I agree, some peoples only form of retort is to insult your wife & kick your dog...followed by a vile rant of vulgarity only used as a diversionary tactic for lack of logic.

Admit it, you've been meeting with Putin too...OMG

Did you notice the "respectfully"? Not trying to cut you down, but be frank, why did you smoke that much pot for ten years? Isn't it an escape mechanism?

Puppets don't impress me. Why hide?

Who's the character assassin here?

You got your 10 pages. I'm not going to argue anymore with potheads, ex-potheads, pot apologists, societal anarchists, children of the 60's, any of it.

*OK, a little more...

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More delusional insults and twisted lies, hurry up the Andy Griffith show starts in 10 minutes.