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Nada for me--but I didn't apply for anything but first choice hunts. Was sorta hoping I might finally get a desert bighorn tag, but no dice... 
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Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
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no Gila elk tag here. Thinking about giving up on NM
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Mule deer Unit 30 Oct 28-Nov 1. I am blessed.
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Rifle antelope in the VLA area (!!), 2nd rifle elk in 52. M/L deer in 29.  Depending on what ranch you get assigned to, that pronghorn hunt has the potential to give you the buck of several lifetimes. Way better than any CO tag that you could be chasing. -Jon You are right about that, my friend. Congrats on the draw. You'll be busy this fall!
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Unlucky on my draws, At least I'll get my 4300.00 dollars back
When people face the possibility of freezing or starving there is little chance they are going to listen to unfounded claims of climate doomsday from a bunch of ultra-rich yacht sailing private jet-setting carbon-spewing hypocrite elites
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Campfire Oracle
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Afternoon folks. Hope your day is going as well as mine has been. I got great news this morning when I found out that I drew a McGreagor Range Oryx tag and a primitive muzzleloader tag in unit 9.
The news got even better though. When i logged onto my wife's account it was GREEEN. Fra Cristobal mountains DESERT BIGHORN SHEEP, a Valles Caldera first rifle cow hunt and a unit 38 Rifle tag.
I'm without words on how excited I am to be able to chase sheep with her. Since we have 2 month old baby Cullen in the house, my mother is going to fly out for the sheep hunt. The elk and deer hunts may just be a weekend ride in the truck.
I'm still tingling from the excitement. New Mexico truly has the best system in the west. I dont know about that. Everyone can get a few venisons every year in Texas, even nonresidents.  I can hunt muleys for weeks every year and whitetails for months.
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I dont know about that. Everyone can get a few venisons every year in Texas, even nonresidents. I can hunt muleys for weeks every year and whitetails for months. If you can afford the lease. How many times have you hunted a Mule Deer on public land in TX? I'm talking about states that have drawings. Point systems suck and making it difficult for kids or adult onset hunters to get into it.
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Idaho has both general tags and a random draw system. A guy can kill 2 deer, 2 elk and an archery antelope every year there, while still putting in for the draws for the really good areas.
I've been putting in for New Mexico since I was 14 years old...23 years now. I have yet to be drawn for anything there. Granted, I put in for the good tags normally, but not always.
While I agree that random draw systems are "better", I wouldn't say that New Mexico has the best system in the west. The ranch "assignment" system for antelope is completely screwed up from everything I have heard.
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Campfire Ranger
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Personally, I like Montana's bonus point system...while those with the most points statistically have the best odds of drawing a premium tag, even those with 0 points have a chance.
Wyoming's got a very confusing system, but for residents all but sheep and moose are random draw. They also have some tags allocated specifically towards random draw sheep and moose tags, but those tags are really hard to get.
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Campfire Oracle
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Have you tried buying one of the leftover tags in June?
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Some years I have tried it, but they're allocated to residents aren't they? The tags I am interested in have always been been gone by the time I got online, but admittedly I have only tried a few times over the years.
I have not tried to pick up any leftover mediocre quality tags, as I have always had plenty of tags in other states to concentrate on.
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Probably should add that my feelers are not hurt, as NM is expensive if you do actually draw a tag...but that cost also keeps a lot of folks from applying, which increases odds. They're still absolutely terrible odds for the better hunts though.
There's ups and downs to every state's system.
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Campfire Ranger
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The entire LO authorization system is screwed up. You NR's can blame not being able to apply for cow hunts on the system. The ranch "assignment" system for antelope is completely screwed up from everything I have heard.
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Some years I have tried it, but they're allocated to residents aren't they? The tags I am interested in have always been been gone by the time I got online, but admittedly I have only tried a few times over the years.
I have not tried to pick up any leftover mediocre quality tags, as I have always had plenty of tags in other states to concentrate on. Some may be,but for the most part it is worth a try. You do have to be quick! NM G&F will send you an e-mail when the tags go on sale and which units they are for. Mostly the tags are archery and muzzleloader. If you are real quick,you can even get a stinkpig tag.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
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non residents have to wait 24 hours to buy one of the left over tags. The first day its only open to residents. Same with the youth encouragement cow elk tags.
I agree T Inman on the A-Plus system, but in the north east portion of the state (and ONLY that portion of the state) I cannot think of any other system that would work to incentivize the landowners to keep the water on for the antelope through the year.
I'd love to have OTC options in the state, but there just isn't enough animals to support it. I think this state has the best system for the public draw, not overall game management. Everyone has a CHANCE at the golden ticket.
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I grew up in NM and had excellent luck for years ad years. Seems like its getting worse and worse as the years go on.
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non residents have to wait 24 hours to buy one of the left over tags. The first day its only open to residents. Same with the youth encouragement cow elk tags.
I agree T Inman on the A-Plus system, but in the north east portion of the state (and ONLY that portion of the state) I cannot think of any other system that would work to incentivize the landowners to keep the water on for the antelope through the year.
I'd love to have OTC options in the state, but there just isn't enough animals to support it. I think this state has the best system for the public draw, not overall game management. Everyone has a CHANCE at the golden ticket. Way back in the 70's bull elk tags were OTC. Also a deer license came with bear and turkey tags and that was OTC too. Antelope was a draw as was oryx,ibex,sheep and barbary sheep. The good ol' days.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
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Both my hunting buddy and I were unsuccessful for antelope. This is the third time I've struck out on the NM draw (twice for elk) and probably won't bother again.
Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty.
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I got real lucky and drew an outfitter Unit 2 rifle tag, I hate to say it but it was the first time I applied in New Mexico.
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when do the refunds go out?
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