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I would not overlook the peep (ghost ring) option. If you do then:
1-Make sure the front sight is a post and not a bead.
2-Make sure the post is wide enough-.100 to .125 is about right.
3-For hunting use the largest aperture to take advantage of the light availability. I take the aperture out and use the screw in opening.

You've lost nothing by trying this approach first. If you're still not satisfied you will have a back up set of sights for your telescope.

Another thing (outside of ballistics, which has been very well covered here) is a rifles inherent accuracy-or lack thereof. I hear that you may as well forget shooting a Winnie '94 at over 100 yards, because of it's-supposed-lack of accuracy. Now, as far as the 99 goes, I've read that it's accuracy is "For the most part, excellent". This being a little vague, can anyone comment on the inherent accuracy in the design/construction of the 99?

One word: Excellent.

You may have to play with loads a bit, but in 300 you can probably find a 150gr factory load that will shoot just fine.

now i'm curious how they will shoot out at 300 yds.....

Ron, thanks for your excellant, detailed explanation (again). I printed it out this time to help me remember.

Question; In your scenario, at what yardage does the bullet cross the line of sight on the way up?

Also, how much does it change things if the scope is higher than normal? I have my scope on see-through mounts which, of course, is tall. I measure the center of the scope at approximately 2" above the center of the barrell.

Thanks again,
Wayne

[color:"brown"]If the center-line of the scope is higher than mine (1.4-inches), it tends to make the bullet's flight path slightly higher, but with the winds and a field "hold" effecting the shot, the height of the center line of your scope compared to the center-line of your rifle's bore makes little difference.

If you're using 150 grain factory loads (MV = 2625 fps), then the numbers (below) are probably very valid for your rifle using the much higher "see-through" scope mounts.

My handloads have a M.V. of 2680 fps. Sighted in 2.8 inches high at 100 yards, this load indictates my point-blank-range is 265 yards and yields the following ballistics:

25 yards = + 0.05 inches/velocity = 2625 fps/ bullet energy = 2295 ft-lbs.

50 yards = + 1.28 inches / 2576 fps / 2210 ft-lbs.

100 yards = + 2.75 inches / 2480 fps / 2048 ft-lbs.

130 yards = + 2.98 inches / 2423 fps / 1955 ft-lbs. (high point)

150 yards = + 2.84 inches / 2385 fps / 1894 ft-lbs.

200 yards = + 1.36 inches / 2293 fps / 1751 ft-lbs.

225 yards = � 0.00 inches / 2247 fps / 1682 ft-lbs. (�zero� range)

250 yards = - 1.79 inches / 2202 fps / 1615 ft-lbs.

265 yards = - 3.00 inches / 2175 fps / 1573 ft-lbs. (max. point-blank range)


Because unseen winds can move even heavy bullets several inches or even "feet" at long range, I won�t take any shot at game beyond approximately 250 yards� a range at which I feel any reasonably decent marksman should be able to put a bullet in the �kill zone� of big game animals. If I see game beyond this range, I�ll try to stalk closer and then, take my shot.

I realize some hunters might not agree with me about this �limit�, but that�s ok. A man should be realistic about his �limits� and this is my self-imposed limit.

My 1953 "EG" consistently shoots 3-shot, �-inch groups at 100 yards off a benchrest with my handloads using a 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Bullet in front of 41.5 grains of IMR4895 sparked by standard Winchester Large Rifle primers in once-fired, "accurized" Winchester cartridge cases with the bullet seated out to give an overall cartridge length of the standard 2.600 inches.

From other posts I've read here and other places... this kind of accuracy out of a Model 99 with a serial number less than one million (aka "pre-mil") in .300 Savage is commonplace.

As to what "effective" range a .300 Savage has... I won't take a shot beyond 250 yards. But that's "me". IMHO, it's a reasonable 300 yard rifle... but that's ALL! If your game is further away.... STALK CLOSER!


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

Thanks, very helpful.
You da man!

[color:"brown"]Da nada, compadr�.......

How 'bout we simply agree that it will shoot accurately farther than most of us can?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Yeah George!
Simply Stated! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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How 'bout we simply agree that it will shoot accurately farther than most of us can?!