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Yeah, who in their right mind would ever shoot an elk with a Scenar?? Exactly. You've gotta look far and wide to find a Scenarshooter. I heard about a guy shooting one of those Dall's Sheep with a 123 Scenar, must've been daft in the head.
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If Remington had done the 260 right we wouldn't be reading this thread! 3" magazine and 8" twist. My Savage 260 Rem has both, I really like it a lot.................... They're not the only .260's with a 3-inch mag box and fast twist. Maybe the only factory rifles.
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The restriction is literally just that screw-hole-nub for the rear screw that retains the triggerguard in an ADL (blind mag) setup... completely remove that, and make a slight mod to the bolt stop and you'd be over 3" ... it would be SO EASY for them to offer an "extended mag" short action. Couple that with reamers that cut the throat shorter, and viola. All the COAL a guy could want.
I think they are reeling from the Walker trigger (which I like and use) fiasco and subsequent multiple recalls. In addition to being, as you say, tone deaf. I think that Remington probably focuses their CF rifle marketing efforts toward their biggest group of buyers, which I assume to be the guys who annually shoot a box or two of factory ammo and hunt deer. It seems to me that Remington has made its fair share of poor product decisions in both ammo and firearms.
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When I get tired of reading about something I have a simple solution. I quit reading about it.
Same thing with radio and TV. Don't like what's on? Change the channel or turn it off.
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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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When I get tired of reading about something I have a simple solution. I quit reading about it.
Same thing with radio and TV. Don't like what's on? Change the channel or turn it off. What a novel concept.
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Yeah, who in their right mind would ever shoot an elk with a Scenar?? Exactly. You've gotta look far and wide to find a Scenarshooter. I heard about a guy shooting one of those Dall's Sheep with a 123 Scenar, must've been daft in the head. Good one Phil.....;)
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One day someone is going to improve the Creedmoor and 260, and un-restrict it by using it in a long action.
Perhaps with a case length of around, say... 55mm....
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Yes to the MBA, Class of 1986. I was the oldest guy in my class at 31, the only veteran, and filling a minority slot for the first time in my life as the class was demographically divided at about 30% Chinese, 30% Indian, 30% Jewish, and 10% Other.
Jeff, Class of '14 here, might have to chat sometime.
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One day someone is going to improve the Creedmoor and 260, and un-restrict it by using it in a long action.
Perhaps with a case length of around, say... 55mm.... ![[Linked Image]](https://media.giphy.com/media/26BRBKqUiq586bRVm/giphy.gif)
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One day someone is going to improve the Creedmoor and 260, and un-restrict it by using it in a long action.
Perhaps with a case length of around, say... 55mm.... As long as the throats are less than 3/4" long you might be on to something there... 
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6.5 GAP 4s for the WIN! 
The CENTER will hold.
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One day someone is going to improve the Creedmoor and 260, and un-restrict it by using it in a long action.
Perhaps with a case length of around, say... 55mm.... Or someone could rediscover the 1913 vintage 256 Newton and the circle would be completed.
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some great posts on this thread!!
killed my first deer with a 6.5,,,,,,a 6.5x52 Carcano,,,,surplus M38 bought from a barrel at the old Coast-to-Coast hardware store in northern Wisconsin in 1974,,,,,believe it cost $25,,,,,,
really like 6.5s but closest I have at the moment is my 250-3000 Savage 99,,,,,,,,,
always wanted a 6.5x55,,,,even have dies already,,,,reckon I need to pull the trigger on a gun one of these days,,,,,
wouldn't pass up a 6.5 Creedmoor if I won one at a banquet!!! not sure I'd buy one though (I like older rounds for some reason),,,,,,,,
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While the 6.5 is a great cartridge, it is not magic. For hunting I'll take my 6.5-06AI for the same reasons I prefer my .30-06 rifles to my .308 Win for my hunting.
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Prefer more recoil and blast? Re: 3/4" throat, no doubt some Swedes have generous Leade, that said, a buddy and I discovered even 85s shot fairly well in his Kimberized Mil-Surp bbl. That said, I have run many, and if doing again would go this route: Another K1-A Ruger, no issues A Sako or Tikka OEM - it seems the Finns have the throating sorted out.....rightfully so. A full blown Custom A former M70 SS FWT CRF doted on 140s. That said, I do like the SA 6.5s, w/o belts. My current 47 is Sweet 
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You forgot the ham hocks.
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I'm pretty sure that I'd buy a Howa 1500 from Whittaker's for $330 or a Vanguard2 from Bud's for between $507 and $563 before I'd pay suggested retail for a 700 SPS.
I might even consider a Winchester/FN XPR for $432 before I'd buy a 700 SPS.
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I am getting tired of reading about how great the 6.5 C is. I think if I had one I'd have it converted into a 264 Win. Mag. and then really have something. Assuming the action would handle the change, of course. Maybe even a 6.5-06. The writers all seem to extoll the virtues of the bullets available. But with the 6.5 C the velocity is so much lower than can easily be achieved by using a larger case and more powder. Why not use the larger cased version of the 6.5 and really make some headway. Marketing, marketing, marketing. Bah humbug, I say. +1
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