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Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
Maybe the 6CM will get into that same niche, over the 243, but I still think the 6.5 pills lend it to being a better all-around cartridge, where the 6CM might be better for everything if hunting versatility isn't an overriding priority. It's nice to have options for new/young/small shooters....or anyone tired of recoil involved with wanting to shoot all day. Sure....tacticool LR fads aside.


I love my 6 creed. Shooting a 115 dtac with a BC of .620 is no joke for long range...

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Actually, I don't expect the 6.5 Creedmoor's popularity to drop much anytime in the foreseeable future. It took a decade for many "average" hunters to realize that it was the most commonly-available moderate 6.5, not only in rifles but ammo and brass, but now many do.

But for some reason it pisses other people off. Dunno why, as all it was designed to do was reproduce the ballistics of the 6.5x55 and .260 in a cartridge fitting easily into the modern "short" magazine. That sort of mechanical adaptation has been happening to smokeless rifle cartridges since they were first developed over 130 years ago. It's also happened to other products outside the shooting industry, and is simply the way mechanical stuff changes due to manufacturing trends. But apparently a bunch of shooters get so wrapped up in "their" cartridges that they see the 6.5 Creedmoor as a personal insult.


Agreed. My statement of "the next few months" was some satire. I need the smiley face emoji on a lot of stuff I type.

Here's my latest Creedmoor. It's my dedicated steel busting rig. (not that I don't do it with others too!) Factory rifle, factory ammo. First five shot group at 100 out of the rifle in the bottom picture. I'd bet the flyer was me, not the rifle.

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Darrick,

Factory 6.5 creed in a sporter stainless T3x? Since when?

Or is that a CTR?


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Clearly a CTR...


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Yea, I think I missed the mag release when I posted that.

Wonder when a regular stainless 6.5 Creed is coming?


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Yea, I think I missed the mag release when I posted that.

Wonder when a regular stainless 6.5 Creed is coming?


Which has me asking, other than a Kimber Hunter, what else is out there for a lightweight hunting rifle?


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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
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Yea, I think I missed the mag release when I posted that.

Wonder when a regular stainless 6.5 Creed is coming?


Which has me asking, other than a Kimber Hunter, what else is out there for a lightweight hunting rifle?


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Originally Posted by Jonnymac
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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Yea, I think I missed the mag release when I posted that.

Wonder when a regular stainless 6.5 Creed is coming?


Which has me asking, other than a Kimber Hunter, what else is out there for a lightweight hunting rifle?


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Not to mention the grand daddy of them all, a Nula.

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I bet anything with a .620 BC will fly well. I was merely speaking to the ability of the 6.5 to go up in weight for stuff bigger than deer...IF one intended. In my mind, that's a better realm for the 6.5 than the 6.....not any knock on the 6 for shooting lots or shooting long. I've got a 260, some 243s, and have dumped my 7s, and kept my 30s and 35s. 6.5CM seems to be another good off-the-shelf fed option for versatility....that's all. I can do without the stigma the goofiness and hype has given it. One of my 243 tubes may get pulled for a 6.5 CM tube I have waiting, and if I like it over a 260 THAT much, I might just have it set back and rechambered, as well. Hell, I have a CLR in '06 that I might let Melvin turn into a 6.5-06......probably be more fun to shoot, anyway. ....but I should have ONE '06.....just because.LOL

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It also looks like there are some vendor exclusive Tikka 3x superlights out there. Sportsman's warehouse has one listed for $800 and Cabela's has a camo stocked version for $930.

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Originally Posted by Jonnymac
It also looks like there are some vendor exclusive Tikka 3x superlights out there. Sportsman's warehouse has one listed for $800 and Cabela's has a camo stocked version for $930.


Geez...talk about mark up. Given you can currently get a Tikka T3 Lite stainless for $540...you could dang near put a carbon custom barrel on that in 6.5 creedmoor for what they are wanting for a silly camo stocked one at SW smile

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Re: Best New cartridge in 20 years. I might answer 6.5x47 Lapua.

Granted you don't find many factory rifles and affordable ammo.

Jeff - you said "HBR" - guessing you have an MBA?
DC223 - 130 NABs work well. Not that others might not have an edge.

GA Boy - indeed. Folks finally thinking as I did 20+ years ago. 6.5's. Smaller rounds that beat your shoulder and ears up far less.

Take a look at the 47, and if you want to take it a step further - a 6.5BR or Grendel.

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Originally Posted by 65BR
Re: Best New cartridge in 20 years. I might answer 6.5x47 Lapua.

Granted you don't find many factory rifles and affordable ammo.

Jeff - you said "HBR" - guessing you have an MBA?
DC223 - 130 NABs work well. Not that others might not have an edge.

GA Boy - indeed. Folks finally thinking as I did 20+ years ago. 6.5's. Smaller rounds that beat your shoulder and ears up far less.

Take a look at the 47, and if you want to take it a step further - a 6.5BR or Grendel.


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So evidently all the Tikka T3x's in the 6.5 Creedmoor are of the tactical version. No plain models - yet?

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I've heard rumors of a T3x in 6.5 Creed, but haven't seen one.

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My complaint is, how is the 6.5 Creedmoor any different than a 6.5 jap. or a 6.5 carcano, or a 6.5 manlicher. Those old cartridges had fast twist barrels, modest velocity, low recoil, heavy for caliber bullets. What Hornady did wasn't rocket science. Hornaday took an old idea and made it there own.

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It fits in a short action with high BC bullets. That's how.


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Originally Posted by frank602
My complaint is, how is the 6.5 Creedmoor any different than a 6.5 jap. or a 6.5 carcano, or a 6.5 manlicher. Those old cartridges had fast twist barrels, modest velocity, low recoil, heavy for caliber bullets. What Hornady did wasn't rocket science. Hornaday took an old idea and made it there own.



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Originally Posted by Brad
I'm going to build a Creedmoor. I don't need/want a 6.5 Magnum of any kind.

Forget what it's called, or what the cool kids think of it. It's just a 6.5mm that fits in a svelt SA, is built on the 250 Savage case, blown out with a 30* shoulder. It's miserly with powder, and like its parent has mild recoil, killing out of proportion to its kick.

IMO, one of the finest cartridges of my 56 years. Really, it's about ideal for the average American hunter that shoots 20 shots a year. OR for the guy that shoots 2,000.

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I'm sure a 6.5 CM lurks in my future. It'd make a great ultralight Mountain Rifle, or any number of things for that matter. But I just wanted to say that in a bit heavier rifle the 6.5 SAUM (aka 6.5 GAP 4S) is a great cartridge too. Still a mild kicker and drives the 140's and 147's nicely. Still fits in a short action. Brass available from GAP. It's a winner, albeit a "bit" of a magnum.


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