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Now they are trying to get illegal immigrants into the unions, and are supporting amnesty for the illegals.
Segment on Fox tonight about Smithfield Meats in Tar Heel NC, with the union supporting the Mexicans.
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Unions had a place in history. Now they are dinosaurs.
Whatever you are willing to put up with, is exactly what you will have.
When your ship comes in. ... make sure you are willing to unload it.
PAYPAL, sucks and I will never use them again. I recommend you do the same.
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I have no problem with private sector unions. Sometimes individuals need to band together to protect their rights. Public employee unions are the work of the devil and should be banned on pain of death.
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What a coincidence!
American citizens are also down to about 12% of the workforce!
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Very nice knock-out punch!!
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I have no problem with private sector unions. Sometimes individuals need to band together to protect their rights. [color:"red"]Public employee unions are the work of the devil [/color] and should be banned on pain of death. With government being the largest employer in the US it makes sense for the unions to go where the money is. The politicians allowed the unions into the federal governement thinking the politicians would have a built in constuentcy. And they do! Jim
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At least the illegals work for their money. Govt. workers.....hah hah hardy hah hah hah!!!!
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there is still a placw for unions. the employer is allowed to run rampent over the worker , witness walmart, there are good non-union employers, these are the ones that fell neutral about unionism as they will do the right thing.
as a union worker in heavy industry the pay , safety , pension, health care and 32.50 an hour make me vote union. I am only a millwright in a work force of 1200 people made the company 160,000,000 last year, personnelly made 72,000 with little volunteer over time, never forced to work anything other than 8-430. We must work together to share the wealth.
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there is still a placw for unions. the employer is allowed to run rampent over the worker , witness walmart, there are good non-union employers, these are the ones that fell neutral about unionism as they will do the right thing.
as a union worker in heavy industry the pay , safety , pension, health care and 32.50 an hour make me vote union. I am only a millwright in a work force of 1200 people made the company 160,000,000 last year, personnelly made 72,000 with little volunteer over time, never forced to work anything other than 8-430. We must work together to share the wealth.
Fur Realizing you are from that great nation to our north I am respectfully pointing out.. The steel industry no longer exists in the US because of unions then the tree huggers. The US automotive industry is slowly dying because of the unions. This is following the example set by the British auto industry. Very near and dear to my heart Colt, Winchester, S&W and Remington are no longer competive because of unions. The cost of unions have done more for exporting jobs then any other one factor. The clothing and foot wear industry moved off shore because of the unions. Unions served their purpose but that purpose expired 50 years ago. Jim
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I think that Walmart supplying a paycheck to the vast percentage of their Workforce,is very much akin to Charity.
They are overpaid..................
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I belonged to a union that did not enable lazy people to be a part of the workforce, and that's the only way I'd have it. I'm embarassed by stories of slackers using their union as something I think they should never have evolved into. I wouldn't have worked where some s.o.b. could come along and tell my boss he'd do my job for 5 cents an hour less; and get it....blah blah blah, on and on.
There's two sides to this union/non-union story, and everybody's got an opinion on it, but it won't change anything. If you're content to sit on your dead azz and have your union keep your job for you, then you've reached the peak of your worth; and you'd better hope you never have to look for a new job, because when left to your own devices, you are going to fall flat on your face. Seen it happen. Lets see, this is where I get off...
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Bulletbutt, I applaud your union in not enabling lazy people to stay employed.
If all did that, I believe the unions would probably be stronger than they are now.
Whatever you are willing to put up with, is exactly what you will have.
When your ship comes in. ... make sure you are willing to unload it.
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I'm personally 'Out of the Game', having been retired since 1995.
My opinion is that the unions, in my work lifetime, went from representing and protecting workers to exploiting them.
The people paid and the Union leadership played.
When will they be investigated and charged like the crooked business leaders have been?
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that's got to be about the stupidest reply i have read here on this forum. the unions haven't done a thing for you. when they start laying off people at your job because it is no longer competitive, you might realize this.
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that's got to be about the stupidest reply i have read here on this forum. the unions haven't done a thing for you. when they start laying off people at your job because it is no longer competitive, you might realize this. Damn right!,... ya need one 'nem non union fi' dollah an thutty fi' cent an hour jobs that'll provide ya with some security!
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there is still a placw for unions. the employer is allowed to run rampent over the worker , witness walmart, there are good non-union employers, these are the ones that fell neutral about unionism as they will do the right thing.
as a union worker in heavy industry the pay , safety , pension, health care and 32.50 an hour make me vote union. I am only a millwright in a work force of 1200 people made the company 160,000,000 last year, personnelly made 72,000 with little volunteer over time, never forced to work anything other than 8-430. We must work together to share the wealth.
Fur Realizing you are from that great nation to our north I am respectfully pointing out.. The steel industry no longer exists in the US because of unions then the tree huggers. The US automotive industry is slowly dying because of the unions. This is following the example set by the British auto industry. Very near and dear to my heart Colt, Winchester, S&W and Remington are no longer competive because of unions. The cost of unions have done more for exporting jobs then any other one factor. The clothing and foot wear industry moved off shore because of the unions. Unions served their purpose but that purpose expired 50 years ago. Jim ArkyPete +++1 How Many BILLION did Ford lose last year??? How many Thousands of dollars does the cost of a Detroit made auto have HUNG on it to pay for the excesses of the Union's? A: a lot more than a Toyota Traded in my F-150 for a Tacoma... Unionism is on par with Communism....an ideology that has proven itself dead...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
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My value as an Employee,is all the security required...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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My value as an Employee,is all the security required................... Funny,.... I recently heard a Mexican say the same thing when asked how he would survive in America. He lives in 3 rooms with 17 other people, eats a lot of beans, and considers it the "good life".
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