First round is done...but pardon my sometimes crappy benchrest technique as it just isn't consistent....tow good shots were usually combined with a called "out"... The two good shots would be right together with the other an inch away...
Federal case neck sized in a Redding die. Flash hole chamfered and neck inside and outside chanfered. After all the brass has been fired one it will be resized and trimmed to one length.
CCI LR Bechrest Primer
Winchester 748 powder each round measured with an electronic scale
When I did everything correctly three times in a row the gun would shoot under .75 moa....In reality I think this will be consistently around a .4 moa shooter if I do my part......
Neither top load for either bullet showed any pressure signs whatsoever.... I would like to try and make 3100 fps with the Hornady if the accuracy will stay...
If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....
I just threw these together. Had some new WW brass, used the expander mandrel to true the necks, dumped 34 grains of RL17 in there with CCIBR2's then seated a Hornady 75 grain AMax on top at 2.500" OAL.
Federal case neck sized in a Redding die. Flash hole chamfered and neck inside and outside chanfered. After all the brass has been fired one it will be resized and trimmed to one length.
CCI LR Bechrest Primer
Winchester 748 powder each round measured with an electronic scale
I loaded some 50 grain vmax to get mine on paper.. random load of 34.0 g of IMR-4064,, 3 to get on paper, then a 3 shot group.. shot a second group to confirm.
Also shot a group of 77 grain tipped match kings.. again, a random load or 34.0 grains of RL-19 loaded at 2.500
I'm working now with the 75 Scirocco, but they are not as easy so far.
Bump. Interested to see others loads. Have tried H4350 and Hunter with 75 AMAX in my NULA 1 in 8 22-250. Best groups below 3200fps with both and wasn't even able to get to 3200 fps with Hunter at max charge (37.3 gr per email communication from Western). About 3250 fps at 37gr H4350.
I had a chance to work a little more with the 75G Swift Scirocco.. I am using RL-17. I shot a string for velocity and got the following with my magneto speed. Sorry the pic is sideways..
using this velocity data I determined I would start at 36.6 grains of RL-17 and shoot variable length at a measured velocity of 33320 fps. I tested at 2.510 .005 off the lands... It did not like this at all.
I also tried a long jump of .110, It didn't like this either. 2.405" COAL = 0.110 jump
I found the best accuracy with a length to lands (jump) around .055-.080.. These are rough analysis and will get plenty of fine tuning to come. This group is 2.435" COAL Jumping 0.080
And by far the best.. was 2.460, jumping .055
If anyone else is working with the 75 grain swift Scirocco, I would love to her your results.
Shot mine today with 70 gr Nosler RDF bullets and IMR 4350 38.2 grains and while the accuracy is excellent the speed was lacking. 3079 fps at 1000' since the accuracy is so good the velocity doesnt bother me as much but I am getting a very similar speed with a 26" barreled savage with the same bullet 25 grains of RL 15 in a 223. I am thinking of going to RL17. Like I said the accuracy was great but velocity was lacking.
75 ELD into the lands and full Lapua case of RL-26 and Fed 210 primer gave me 1" 4 shot group and 3330 fps. Now to play with seating depth to see if I can't tighten it up some.
75 ELD into the lands and full Lapua case of RL-26 and Fed 210 primer gave me 1" 4 shot group and 3330 fps. Now to play with seating depth to see if I can't tighten it up some.
75 ELD into the lands and full Lapua case of RL-26 and Fed 210 primer gave me 1" 4 shot group and 3330 fps. Now to play with seating depth to see if I can't tighten it up some.
Keep me posted. Interested in seeing results.
Will do...btw ran out of powder space before I hit pressure in my rifle. Waiting for my chassis stock to arrive and drop the rifle in it before I shoot my load work ups.
I'm waiting to see all the dead animal pics shot with the 62 gr TTSX's, I have a loaded e-mail on one of these guns but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Well worked up the RL-26 load. #1 was .000" (in the lands), #2 was .020" out, #3 was .040" out, and #4 was .060" out. Overall none of them are bad, just one is clearly a winner and the 75 grains ELDs like to be in the lands for this rifle. If i can replicate 1/4 or even 1/2 MOA again then 75 ELDs at 3315 fps isn't exactly terrible.
As you can see things just went from a nice 1/4 MOA group to an "abysmal" .6" or so for #2 and #3, to a horrid just over MOA for the #4.
Going to load some more into the lands tonight and shoot them tomorrow to see how they do.
I am digging the little Tikka 22-250 for certain thus far and being able to shooting 100 yards and shoot the loads I just worked up on the bench at 99 yards in the yard is pretty nice these days now that its suppressed.
Well I loaded up the same load as #1 above and shot 5 more the following day. Looks to be repeatable accuracy. So I will take it.
#1 and #5 are both right at the lands and both well under 1/2 MOA for 5 shots..."that oughta do donkey" So loaded up 65 more at that load...next time out will be flinging them to 1K I hope.
Shot Lukes load today in my LH Tikka 1-8 twist, 22" 22-250 3 X 9 Minox BDC 75 Gr Horn ELDM CCI primer RL 26 full case, 3264 FPS. 3 shots .28" 4 th was a called flier. Bad wind and conditions . My RL 17 load shows pressure and about 1.25". Thanks Luke the Pioneer !
kk alaska
Alaska 7 months of winter then 5 months of tourists
In the theme of continuing to test, I tried both Hybrid 100V along with H414 to see if I could get better velocity than what I was getting with RL-15 using 75 gr AMAX. Below are my chrono numbers from this weekend at 63 def. F. at 1760' ASL. Load was using Lapua brass, 75 AMAX (.020 off the lands - 2.620 OAL) and a CCI 200. I recognize I need more shots in my strings to accurately calculate SD. I was mainly looking to get velocity up. I did notice sticky bolt lift with the 37.7-38.1 gr of Hybrid 100V. All loads produced groups under 1" at 100 yards but nothing I found was excellent. Hybrid 100V
Any updates? I'm picking mine up on Monday Probably going to start with 75 ELDXs and 4350, would love to give R26 a go but I often shoot when it is better than 100 in the shade add have heard it doesn't like the heat.
Just got my 22-250 VLD seater. Have 75 amax and 88 grain ELD loaded up with H4350 to start. Will move to RL26 if this doesn't work. Kept getting tips on the 88s dinged up with standard seater.
88 ELD did not do great. The 75 Amax shot very well between 35.6 and 36.4 grains of H4350. Right on the lands. Loading a few up at 36.2 and going longer.
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
The ELD's are THE way to go,but I've a "few" 75 'Max myself.(grin)
Pass the 224 Kreedmire and 88's!.....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Has anybody seen hornady published data with Varget and 4350 with 75 grain eldms Where are they at with it, I don't want to buy another manual just for this.
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Why would that be, I what powder and load do you suggest for a gun that will be mostly shot in the desert when it is likely to be 100 plus in the shade.
Why would that be, I what powder and load do you suggest for a gun that will be mostly shot in the desert when it is likely to be 100 plus in the shade.
MAGNIFICENT fhuqking stupidity.
Congratulations?!?..........................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I'm a little surprised at your response, you used to be pretty helpful in the past, maybe you can try again with a recommendation that will help me out please
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Has anybody seen hornady published data with Varget and 4350 with 75 grain eldms Where are they at with it, I don't want to buy another manual just for this.
Hornady data is 33.4 gr max for Varget with 75 gr ELDM. It doesn't list H4350.
Has anybody seen hornady published data with Varget and 4350 with 75 grain eldms Where are they at with it, I don't want to buy another manual just for this.
Hornady data is 33.4 gr max for Varget with 75 gr ELDM. It doesn't list H4350.
Sierra lists 33.0-36.5 grains of H4350 with their 80 grain SMK. That should get you close.
The 80 Sugar ain't much force,from any angle.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
In my eight twist 22-250, IMR 4451 has been the best powder I've tried. Velocity is around 3350 with Sierra 80's and the same with Berger or Hornady (28 inch barrel). GD
The 80 Sugar ain't much force,from any angle.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Has anybody seen hornady published data with Varget and 4350 with 75 grain eldms Where are they at with it, I don't want to buy another manual just for this.
Go to Hodgdons website and see if they list that bullet in their load data.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Be SURE to Start a Thread when that BIG day "happens". Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart for TRYING.
Hint.
Laughing!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Were these 8" 22-250s a special buy somewhere in the US?
I don't see them listed.
Whitaker’s did a special run and then tikka made a few. If you look on gunbroker you can still find tikkas.
Thanks ..... Pretty expensive to get one of those into Canada. Might have to go to plan B and use a 700 action I have been hoarding.
Super,
I brought one in last year and ended up being a par with most Canadian retailers, once all was said and done. But that was before Tikka started enforcing MAP and Whitaker’s prices were very good. That shop may have sailed tho...
Good luck buying or building.
Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.
You mean Dreaming and Imagining....................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Were these 8" 22-250s a special buy somewhere in the US?
I don't see them listed.
Whitaker’s did a special run and then tikka made a few. If you look on gunbroker you can still find tikkas.
Thanks ..... Pretty expensive to get one of those into Canada. Might have to go to plan B and use a 700 action I have been hoarding.
Super,
I brought one in last year and ended up being a par with most Canadian retailers, once all was said and done. But that was before Tikka started enforcing MAP and Whitaker’s prices were very good. That shop may have sailed tho...
Good luck buying or building.
Sell me yours, or did you get a factory second with the bolt on the wrong side?
Thanks for the replies and PMs, some very helpful people here. I don't think the 8 twist 22/250's are entirely exclusive to Whittakers, they are available off the shelf in Australia and NZ, I would imagine the Canadian distributor would be able to get them.
Which specific model or models of Tikka .22-250 come in the 1:8 twist? I'm seeing their Lite SS on some of the on-line dealer sites but I can't find that spec on the Tikka website.
Ans speaking of, who else makes a 1:8 .22-250? IIRC Ruger made a special run of Predators or maybe standard RAR's for Whittaker but those are sold out.
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
Mine got Shanghai'd enroute...as a pard wanted to fhuqk around with it and poke it in a McMillan to see WTF.
Maybe he'll keep it and we'll both win...................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Which specific model or models of Tikka .22-250 come in the 1:8 twist? I'm seeing their Lite SS on some of the on-line dealer sites but I can't find that spec on the Tikka website.
Ans speaking of, who else makes a 1:8 .22-250? IIRC Ruger made a special run of Predators or maybe standard RAR's for Whittaker but those are sold out.
Jim, I'm not sure if the 8" twist model is still being made by Tikka. If I'm correct, the RAR is still offered in an 8" twist. Additionally, the Browning X-Bolt is offered in a 9" twist and a left handed configuration.
I just loaded some 60 v max over 40.5 grains of superformance. Hornady brass with ww primers. runs only 3380 out of my 22 inch tikka but it shoot about .6 no matter how many rounds I put in the group.
I shoot 75 ELD's at 3150fps outta more than a few 21" 223AI's.
Hint..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Circling back around on this. I want to try some Speer 75 gr Gold Dots with the Tikka. Has anyone tried these and what is your load? I have RL-15, H414 and RL-16 to try.
75 gr. Hornady short barreled rifle (SBR) TAP bullets that were surplus at MidwayUSA. They're not in the Hornady bullet catalog. Midway listed them as 80 gr., but they actually weighed 75 gr. They're designed for the tactical .223, should be pretty effective at .22-250 speeds. So far, haven't shot anything yet, too many other projects.
They really grouped well in my 8 twist Shilen .22-250. Not too sleek, not my choice for long range. Should make quite a "dent" in the biggest hog..
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Any updated info on these 1:8 twist Tikka loads? I dont have any of the RL powders but I do have H4350 and lots of Varget to try. I have some 75 gr Amax, 77gr Nosler and 69gr Nosler. Thanks
Good results for me with H414 and the 75ELD-M. I want to check it for pressure this summer when it gets hot. May also play with RL-15 and H4350 just to see.
It wasn’t a Tikka, but when I was shooting an 8” twist 22-250, it’s favorite load by far, was R15 pushing the 75gr Amax to 3200. That load would should sub 3” 5 shot groups at 700 yards. It was amazing.
John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
It wasn’t a Tikka, but when I was shooting an 8” twist 22-250, it’s favorite load by far, was R15 pushing the 75gr Amax to 3200. That load would should sub 3” 5 shot groups at 700 yards. It was amazing. John
There’s a thread in the rifle reloading forums that has more info regarding this.
I’ll look for it thanks!
Les, I'll show you a couple good, "pet", loads that I have developed for my Tikka. I'm pretty happy when I'm putting 3 shots into around an inch at 400 yards:
400 yards:
Sub 1" at 400 yards is even better: My experience with the 88gr ELD match bullet in the 22-250 has been pretty positive.
Here's a cheaper Barnes 69gr match burner load that was alright:
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Thanks Les, another reason I shoot paper at 400 is because at my local range, the furthest targets we can drive to is 400. We have steel set up at 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, and 1,000 yards though.
I guess you can say it's my favorite playground right now. I have other places I can shoot and set up paper, but I'm kind of lazy. This makes it too easy..
400 isn't that far, but it's a good distance for testing different rifles. In this pic, I was comparing 3 different rifles. Sometimes I'm impressed or disgusted in how some of these different rifles shoot. Thinking your loudenboomer 300wby magnum is going to lay down some serious kick azz, often times does not happen. A lot of times the .223 caliber's shine. I believe in the pic here, my AR15 did some major kick azz. Even though I've seen that many times, it still surprises me.
There's beauty in that 1 in 8" twist 22-250 though, especially when running 77's and 88's.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
RL 15 has done well for me with 75 gr ELDM and 70 gr Accubond. The ELDM is a smidge more accurate, but the 70gr Accubond has shown much better on game performance. The 62 gr TTSX has also done well but didn't quite have the accuracy of the other two in my rifle.
RL 15 has done well for me with 75 gr ELDM and 70 gr Accubond. The ELDM is a smidge more accurate, but the 70gr Accubond has shown much better on game performance. The 62 gr TTSX has also done well but didn't quite have the accuracy of the other two in my rifle.
Bill
I found some RL 15 I forgot I had. Any advice on a loads for 75’s?
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
RL 15 has done well for me with 75 gr ELDM and 70 gr Accubond. The ELDM is a smidge more accurate, but the 70gr Accubond has shown much better on game performance. The 62 gr TTSX has also done well but didn't quite have the accuracy of the other two in my rifle.
Bill
I found some RL 15 I forgot I had. Any advice on a loads for 75’s?
32.9 gr shot the tightest with a 75 grain AMAX and Lapua brass. Avg velocity in my Tikka was slow at 3,055 fps.
RL 15 has done well for me with 75 gr ELDM and 70 gr Accubond. The ELDM is a smidge more accurate, but the 70gr Accubond has shown much better on game performance. The 62 gr TTSX has also done well but didn't quite have the accuracy of the other two in my rifle.
Bill
I found some RL 15 I forgot I had. Any advice on a loads for 75’s?
32.9 gr shot the tightest with a 75 grain AMAX and Lapua brass. Avg velocity in my Tikka was slow at 3,055 fps.
I’ll give it a try, thanks.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
LBP, post results of your RL15 testing. I just got me a pound of it to try with 77 gr. Berger OTM's and also got some Win 748 I'm gonna try as well. So far I have just had so-so accuracy with Varget, 4064, and IMR 4350.
Ran some chrono loads yesterday in my 22/250. RL-26 22" barrel, 1/8 twist 88 gr Hornady ELD
36 gr. = 2838 fps 37 gr. =2890 fps 38 gr. =2941 fps 39 gr =3079 fps 40 gr. =3041
When I see a higher charge weight and reduced velocity that usually means the end of the line. And a very faint ejector mark on the 40 gr load confirmed it. My old accuracy load in this 22/250 is 32.5 gr RL-15 for 3075 fps, kinda matches others experience, I find that very interesting
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Ran some chrono loads yesterday in my 22/250. RL-26 22" barrel, 1/8 twist 88 gr Hornady ELD
36 gr. = 2838 fps 37 gr. =2890 fps 38 gr. =2941 fps 39 gr =3079 fps 40 gr. =3041
When I see a higher charge weight and reduced velocity that usually means the end of the line. And a very faint ejector mark on the 40 gr load confirmed it. My old accuracy load in this 22/250 is 32.5 gr RL-15 for 3075 fps, kinda matches others experience, I find that very interesting
Yep, my accuracy loads with the 88gr are right around 3,050fps, as well.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Ran some chrono loads yesterday in my 22/250. RL-26 22" barrel, 1/8 twist 88 gr Hornady ELD
36 gr. = 2838 fps 37 gr. =2890 fps 38 gr. =2941 fps 39 gr =3079 fps 40 gr. =3041
When I see a higher charge weight and reduced velocity that usually means the end of the line. And a very faint ejector mark on the 40 gr load confirmed it. My old accuracy load in this 22/250 is 32.5 gr RL-15 for 3075 fps, kinda matches others experience, I find that very interesting
Yep, my accuracy loads with the 88gr are right around 3,050fps, as well.
BSA, I just realized I didn't state my accuracy load of 32.5 gr RL-15 was with a 75 Amax... sorry for the confusion, I haven't tried RL-15 with the 88 eldm. I haven't accuracy tested the 88 eldm load yet but the chrono group was in a verticle string 1/2" wide by 3" tall, so I have high hopes for the 39gr RL-26 load at 3000fps
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Ran some chrono loads yesterday in my 22/250. RL-26 22" barrel, 1/8 twist 88 gr Hornady ELD
36 gr. = 2838 fps 37 gr. =2890 fps 38 gr. =2941 fps 39 gr =3079 fps 40 gr. =3041
When I see a higher charge weight and reduced velocity that usually means the end of the line. And a very faint ejector mark on the 40 gr load confirmed it. My old accuracy load in this 22/250 is 32.5 gr RL-15 for 3075 fps, kinda matches others experience, I find that very interesting
Yep, my accuracy loads with the 88gr are right around 3,050fps, as well.
BSA, I just realized I didn't state my accuracy load of 32.5 gr RL-15 was with a 75 Amax... sorry for the confusion, I haven't tried RL-15 with the 88 eldm. I haven't accuracy tested the 88 eldm load yet but the chrono group was in a verticle string 1/2" wide by 3" tall, so I have high hopes for the 39gr RL-26 load at 3000fps
Ok, got it buddy. You know there is a thread in the handloading forums as well? Some of us ran some tests with the 88eld match bullets with different powders. You may want to check it out. There is some good info there. Good luck with it man. The 22-250 is a fun little cartridge. One of my favorites
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
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