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Valsad,
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ryoushi,
yep, thanks, I got it now.

sorta wish everyone would use the same terminology
I have known for a few years about
"bump"
then "ttt"
now "tag"

What's next?

Geno

Other standards are "Up" and "again."

Sometimes "An interesting thread, but I have nothing to say, so hope somebody else will" would seem to be the most appropriate.

Gun: CZ 550 medium lux 9.3X62, 60 sm barrel.
Temp.: 7 ℃ degree celsius
wind: 1.5m/s
Sun

bullet-Hornady interlock - 286gr
brass-RWS
powder - Ramshot BigGame-65grain
Primer: CCI 250
COL-3.366

av. Vo = 2543 fps/ 775 m/s
No sign of over pressure.
Moa groups
My barrel like this Hornady interlock - 286gr.

wswolf, did you find more data for or test 250 TTSX loads? I hope to be testing loads for that bullet as I have my rifle set up.

The loads below are for the .370 SAKO / 9.3x66 - NOT the 9.3x62!

Havn't done a lot of shooting with each load but here are my results with the 250 TTSX so far.
I consider these maximum loads and would reduce them by several grains for use in another rifle.
To be on the safe side I would not exceed 2700 fps with 250 gn or 2500 with 286 gn bullets.

IMR4166 (WLR primers): worked up to 65 gn/ 2720 fps and a 1.5" group. Lower charges gave very poor groups.

Varget (210 primers): worked up to 69 gn /2730 fps and a 1.2" group. WLR primers gave larger groups.

Big Game (215 primers): worked up to 72 gn/ 2696 fps and groups close to 1/2".

2000MR (WLR primers): worked up to 72.5 gn/ 2700 fps and 0.8" groups.

N550 (WLR primers): worked up to 75 gn/ 2700 fps and 0.8" groups.

Re17 (WLR primers): worked up to 74 gn/ 2670 fps and 1.5" groups.

All were loaded to 3.34" overall length and all loads were compressed, with the bullets .24" to .35" below the level of the powder.
I had hoped 4166 or Varget would produce the best groups because I don't like extremely compressed loads but so far Big Game is the winner and less temperature sensitive to boot.
I have not yet tried seating bullets deeper than 3.34" but give it a try with 4166 since it takes up the least space in the case.

Thanks for the reminder of your larger case. It's been hard to find info on loading that bullet, so I am still curious what you have learned.

Would you agree that the monolithic bullet has a really hard time matching muzzle velocity of same weight lead bullets? Others have seen notably slower velocities, much more than what I have experienced or read of from other calibers. That's a little disappointing as I am hoping to get the 250 TTSX going as fast as it can to aid its reach.

Keep in mind that mine are not large sample sizes and further testing at the same temperature, same primer could change the results.
Comparing 250 TTSX and 250 Accubond it seems that, depending on the powder, the Accubond produced 15 to nearly 50 fps higher velocity with the same powder charge.
I no problem with the TTSX matching Accubond velocity unless stuffing in a little extra powder becomes a barrier.

John Barsness wrote in Handloader 250 that, from his 9.3x62, he got 2636 fps with X-bullets and 62 gn Reloder 15 and 2651 fps with Accubond and 60.5 gn Varget.

you re pushing too fast that bullet ...

We have seen some pretty disappointing performance with the 286 gr Hornady bullet up here on big game. Accurate enough, but serious blowups and jackets shedding on anything hit up close. Certainly nothing close to the stellar performance of Normas or Noslers.

Wondering if we just got a bad batch, or if you guys' experience is similar.
Ted

Ted,

I've only used the 286 Interlock in Hornady factory load, listed at 2370 fps, which is apparently the modern standard for the 9.3x62 in 286-grain factory ammo, both in the U.S. and Europe. The biggest animal I took with it was a cow nilgai, about the size of a cow elk, say 450 pounds. The shot wasn't far, I'd guess somewhere around 125 yards, and the cow was almost facing me, quartering just a little. I put the bullet just inside the nearest shoulder, and it exited around the rear of the ribcage on the opposite side, leaving an exit hole about the diameter of my thumb. It performed pretty much perfectly at that velocity, which may be what the bullet's designed for.

Nilgai are supposed to be pretty hard to kill, but the cow crow-hopped about 10 feet sideways and fell over dead.

Tag

I have two 9.3x62 Mausers...

The Remington 721 (JES rebore) and barrel bob (20") shoots very well with cheap factory Prvi 285s...



I would love to clone this load... anyone know what powder Prvi uses?

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Second gun (CZ550)... picked up from 4Ager... along with a lot of pills (wide range of weights and pills).

A REAL LONG SHOT... anyone here the former owner of this gun and have any data... for it?

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Second question... anyone have any favorite H414 load data? Any pill weight is fine.

My stash of RE-17 is good/but finite...

I have a full jug of H414

No Varget or Big game

Thanks in advance

The Real Guns.com reloading page for the 9.3 X 62mm is now $30 a year subscription... as of 1-1-2018.

I've been using the full 60.5 grains load with a 250 grain Barnes but also use Hornady brass. I've found considerable more capacity in Hornady brass than European brass and that should lower pressures somewhat.

IMO the 9.3 X 62 suffers a bit in lack of bullet selection....especially if one decides to shoot lead free bullets. While the 250 grain TTSX might put a cape buffalo on the ground quickly, it is a bit much to my shoulder and so I've machined new lighter 225 grain TTSX from the heavier bullets.....It does work but I'm not at all sure it's worth it. I'd like Barnes (or someone) to come out with a 200 grain monometal.

I used the same load of 60.5 grains of varget with the 225 grain loads.....however it follows that one could increase the powder a bit.

here's a photo of alternating 250,225 grain bullets

Very slick and good info to boot.

Any idea as to how much more water the Hornady brass holds??

FWIW, CFE223 has been making 250's sing nicely for me.

vapodog,

Cutting Edge offers both 200 and 210-grain Raptors in 9.3mm. The 210 gets 2850 from my CZ using 66.0 RL-15, and that was far from pushing it.

we have to test them again.

Hello,

I am using, not on game yet, the Slovenian FOX, monometal, 220 grs bullet. In my BRNO ZKK 600 rifle is the most accurate bullet I have tried, loading them with R15, CCI 200 /250 primers, NORMA and/or RWS cases. Easy to reach 2800 f/s.

Thank you....I do appreciate that....but for nearly $2 each (shipped) I'll continue to machine my own. I'm a retired old fart and need a good project to keep me humming.