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"Then, there's the Iowa retirement system that allows an officer with 22 years of service and age 55 to retire at 66% of his final pay, or additional service credit of 2% per year up to 82%."
That's just the problem with public employee unions. Why should the taxpayers have to pay some bum not to work? If, after 22 years his feet are too flat or his potbelly is too big to function as a police officer, let him go on a diet and work out. Or, give him a job pushing commas with a pencil for a few years until he's 65.
What unions are all about is taking more money from the employer than they are willing to earn by legitimate work, making either the public at large or a company's customers pay the difference. Some call that stealing.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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Penguin; No holes in your post that I can see. Thanks for putting it in writing.
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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That's just the problem with public employee unions. Why should the taxpayers have to pay some bum not to work? If, after 22 years his feet are too flat or his potbelly is too big to function as a police officer, let him go on a diet and work out. Or, give him a job pushing commas with a pencil for a few years until he's 65. Why 65, why not 75 or 80? Why should some lazy old geezer with his teeth in a glass next to his bed get off easy? Maybe because in advanced nations we can earn a retirement as part of our compensation for doing a job. You do know that our "lazy bums" in the military get to retire at 50% pay after only 20 years of service right? Why are they so special? Personally I think they earn it and so do cops and firefighters. Most firefighters retire with back problems or some other job related injury anyway so you're not out much if they make their 20 or so years.
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What unions are all about is taking more money from the employer than they are willing to earn by legitimate work, making either the public at large or a company's customers pay the difference. Some call that stealing. So other than social security your employer doesn't contribute a dime towards your retirement program?
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Fires is far from difficult,to cypher.
BT/DT....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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'guin,
I've been me,all my Life. Have never not been in the front of the pack and have both been places and seen things. Anyone that knows me,knows THAT.
I pay property tax,Federal tax and live in an exceptionally expensive A/O,as per the cost of living. All very good trades,IMHO,for the quality of Life.
Don't try to place your stupidity,upon my shoulders...despite my having the shoulders for the job.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Just me and not to raise the dead - I ahve worked sites where I was the only non union guy. Never worked in a union. In my local and this is just what I see - but the union is necessary to train guys. Plumbers, steamfitters etc. Most non-union places won't hire you unless you show a journeyman's card - the only way to get one - be union at some point in time.
Simple fact is - around here - you can't be a plumber unless you were local 400 at some time.
They do serve a very good purpose in that regard. Getting people training in positions where there isn't a good system to do so.
Been looking at the unions myself for that very reason - being Joe plumber interests me - can't do that without getting a journeyman's card.
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Why can I see Penguin in the bottom of a draw,drinking from the creek,while I've 5 sections strung uphill and am tugging them to button a layout...and him asking me,if I'd like him to "push" me some slack?!!?
My pride won't allow me alotta things and a puzzy,is at the top of that list....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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It looks like you two are off to a good start.
I only hope your fans will continue to speak up, this one might have legs...
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Nothing worse than a fairleadin' [bleep],who's sole claim to fame,is that they watched a good man work.
That ain't much of a resume and I reckon a picture would solve that mystery.
Laffin'.....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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United we stand, divided we fall.
Local 1707 Carpenters SW Washington I'm a business agent for local 1325 of the UBC. ( Alberta Regional Council) Been a union hand all my working life, and if I wanted to work through a break to get a job finished, than take my break, no one cared. Take pride in your work, and yourself I say, no matter what your vocation is. Good carpenters are plenty in our hall, and our scaffolders are recognized World Wide, by both union AND no union companies. I would put our tradesmen to the test against any, and they prove their worth every day. I also have friends who work no union, that being their choice. Cat
scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!
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i worked through lunch today, no one asked this time I just want to keep the place running, cat and hat is right we have good trades people around here, we trust our lives to each other as well
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Penguin, Theres's a very simply solution to the "Alaskan Jackass". Click on his name and then click on ignore this user. It's as easy as that! I did it about a month or so ago and it's wonderful. Can't see a damn thing he types!!! I'm telling ya it sure is nice! Try it you'll like it! I'm at this site to enjoy and learn. And there is plenty of others out there with valuable info. The guys a flamming idiot. Don't fuel the fire. Enjoy!
Your Every Liberal vote promotes Socialism and is an
attack on the Second Amendment. You will suffer the consequences.
GOA,Idaho2AIAlliance,AmericanFirearmsAssociation,IdahoTrappersAssociation,FoundationForWildlifeManagement ID and MT.
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Push me some slack,if you can stand the "workout"..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Somebody translate that into Spanish,so 'death can savvy?
Appreciate it........................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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"Then, there's the Iowa retirement system that allows an officer with 22 years of service and age 55 to retire at 66% of his final pay, or additional service credit of 2% per year up to 82%."
That's just the problem with public employee unions. Why should the taxpayers have to pay some bum not to work? If, after 22 years his feet are too flat or his potbelly is too big to function as a police officer, let him go on a diet and work out. Or, give him a job pushing commas with a pencil for a few years until he's 65.
What unions are all about is taking more money from the employer than they are willing to earn by legitimate work, making either the public at large or a company's customers pay the difference. Some call that stealing. Now that there is the definition of "hard ass" So any cop or fireman who does is twenty years and retires is a pot bellied slob who doesn't deserve to retire until 65? Wow, not only that, I just learned I'm a thief to boot, a undignified extortionist who is unqualified to make a legitimate living. Damn, Jimmy Hoffa knock you on your ass back in the day?
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Thanks Creepingdeath I took your advice also and the ALASKAN JACKASS or is it BIG D_CK IS NO MORE!!!!!!!!! Sure is strange how someone could do so much and know something about everything and STILL have time to post over 26000 replies!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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IF YOU ARE GOING TO ACT STUPID YOU BETTER BE TOUGH
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Nothing like 2 gents in Tin Foil hats,communicating aloud.
Laffin'...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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