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He struck out several times,on this Thread alone.

Mebbe we'll get extry innings and a fresh batter?............(grin)

Got to thinking at lunchtime, fresh air and good views tend to do that.

Anyhoo, if after 10, 15 or 20 years on a job you can be replaced by somebody with no skills who doesn't speak English, you should be! There's a world of difference between being on a job for 20 years, and gaining 1 years experience 20 fold, and gaining 20 years experience.

I'd say anyone who's been on a job 2, 3 or 5 years tops has had ample time to make their employer know exactly why you are a valued employee, and to compensate you well for being thus. If there aren't other companies trying to hire you away, either your industry is dead, or you haven't done your part to become a valued employee.

In any industry the level of competition is typically so low it's scary how easy it is to make it to the top. The basics are, show up on time, make sure you know who you work for and how to make them happy. If you can't make a deadline for a good reason, as soon as you know you can't make the date let the powers that be know in advance. Get a modicome of work done and know how your company makes money, and make money for them. I've yet to see how a union can benefit one in achieving that. Have often seen how folks with a good work ethic get pulled down by those that haven't.

Was telling 'Humper yesterday,about a conversation I had with my Boss,after the end of my first hitch was drawing near.

Boss asked me what I thought and I replied honestly...."I hope this job doesn't turn me into a piece of [bleep]!". He laughed and said that he thought I'd come out of it intact,with a good attitude and work ethic remaining.

Attitude has always come easily for me,because I was born with the glass half full. Having seen/done HARDwork in the firsthand,my relative scale is prolly jaded from most. I figure if you ain't dead or injured,then it was a very good day and the balance is water under the bridge.

I am not a bitcher nor complainer,though I've no qualm voicing an opinion in a fair manner,to right a wrong. Been knowed to stand my ground too.

Guys I work with now,think I'm a [bleep] Loon,because nothing bothers me. I figure a man shouldn't oughtta complain,about a paid vacation.(grin) Times fly,when you let it and it never don't feel good,to do a good job and that is reward enough,oftentime.

Many folks think they are OWED a job and that mentality escapes me...................

Lotsa folks have life by the balls, few are thankful for the fact. Even more folks could have same, if they'd just reach out and grab it.

Have plenty of bs to deal with in the office, like clients that never know what they want, constantly change their mind, and schedules that are in flux. Some folks get bent out of shape, I smile. If somebody is more than happy to pay me good money to take 6 months to do a job I could bang out in 2 weeks, (because it takes them 5 months and 2 weeks to figure out what they want) then I'll do my best to keep them happy.

When your boss gives you multiple raises in a year, and says if anyone gives you a better offer to let him match it, it's a good deal. When you get that better offer, tell your boss, and at the end of the day he's matched it plus 5k a year, with plans to kick it up again in the near future, you realize there is an incentive to be valuable to your employer.

I never was one that wanted his ass sucked,but it is nice to work for an Outfit that knows/appreciates good work.

My current Job,is saturated with genuinely GREAT folk and it is a superlative work atmosphere. Opportunity is boundless and all are eager to help.

A pleasure to boot up for a Brand,that conducts business in that manner..........................

Comming from an exspurt on compaction extraction..............

A few years ago i worked a Union job as a meat cutter, i hated that job but needed it until i could find something better. Co-workers would get pissed when I would stay and work to get things caught up cause they had to go on break. I don't always agree with BS but he's dead on with this thread. I've seen the union workers, complaining about going on break late and whining because they had to do a little extra because we were short handed. What is so hard about getting to work on time, doing the best job you possibly can and not complaing about it? I never did understand how people can complain when they have 4 weeks of vacation time, paid sick leave, raises just about every year and working only 8 hour days.......

I call it "Wiping Ass" and it's a term I coined,for work-ethic mindset.

Whenever I was running Crew(or working for myself/or for someone else)all that I simply asked,was that they made for CERTAIN,that their ass was wiped. That means,when you turn and walk away from a job that is completed,that all ducks are in a row.

Start at the "start" and the start is...to make sure that the last job is Ship Shape,before you take another bite of something else.

I'm the newest/greenest/dumbest guy on my Crew now,but I say often..."let's make sure our ass is wiped",before we tackle something new. Nothing more [bleep] frustrating for a Boss or Employer(I've been both),than to have to second guess the job's total completion. I don't want to be part of a Crew,that isn't held in esteem.

That being said,I've zero qualm staying late(or whatever),to wipe ass,whether it's mine or the Brand's collectively. I've never not taken pride in my work,because I believe simply,that a man's work should speak for itself. The Crew should take pride in it's collective effort,or all is moot.

Much of that,goes back to sweating for a living,when the pickings were tough and the physical requirements exceptionally demanding. Because all was based on production,I'd "wipe ass" either early in the work week,or early in the day,to bolster longterm dividends and quality.

I'd cut the hard [bleep] first,then savor a little coasting to the Finish Line,as a cookie of sorts. That may entail tackling some man-killing ground on Monday morn,or mebbe backing my strip into the shade,as the sun peaked over ridge tops in the afternoons. The tricks are numerous,the benefits always rewarding.

I never left myself an unwiped ass,unless I was whipped physically and knew in my heart of hearts,I was gonna need recharged batteries to live through the ordeal. That falls under "Discretion is the better part of valor" and do not hint at leaving things unfinished.

No secret...I miss the excitement and adrenaline rush of solving a man-killing puzzle,via athleticism and sharp thinkin',coupled with good tools. Doing what "can't be done" is just reward and Pride cain't be bought.

A good attitude is infectious,just as a good crew can run culls off,at a gallop.

Long way of saying,GOOD guys are always sought and command a premium....................

BS eh?

Yeah,..... that works,...

Thinkin' that anyone who questions Sticks work ethic is plum [bleep]' stoopid..........

I think that pretty much sums it up....

You have to be careful that when you reach a certain age that you are not wore plume out. Lots of things you can't do very well when you get some age on ya so you have got to keep adjusting. Eyes will be the first to go about mid 40's, back in the 60's, mind in the 70's. Someone else will have to speak of other things that leave you when you get old.

it might well be time to pull the plug on this thread..............

I think there is much to hard work,keeping a man fit,to a level which prolly betrays his years.

Like an OldBoy once told me..."some people,just die easy"..................

Just don't forget the Charmin.

It's too harsh,for most...they require WetOnes..........

That is wishful thinking. Any group of Mexicans could show up in AK and be cutting lumber or working wells in no time. It all depends on what you consider "no skills" and I am here to tell you that anything that does not require a college education is now becoming (as you put it), "a no skill job".

Being good at your skill has not a thing to do with the problem, all kinds of people who are not good are getting hired for less, but the company who hires the skilled is still putting a bid in against the company hiring the illegals.

Try doing it right, start your own thing, buy insurance, pay worker's comp on your guys, then compete against the guy who pays for none of it.

A whole lot of industry going dead as you put it. If you are ok with government tag teaming with business to replace the blue collar worker with cheap labor, I guess there isn't anything else I can say.

School is not for everyone, but in years past a hard worker could still make a decent living, those jobs are running out.

I would imagine AK will be the last to be hit, but I'm wondering if Stick knows if the lumber and fishing industry on Oregon is feeling the effects yet...if not yet, soon.

Pull the plug??? Is the truth that damn painful <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

My pards in Orygun,are doing better than ever.

We communicate often and none have seen a Wetback on a boat deck,nor in a strip.

I do not get the impression,that they fret Salsa Interventions....................

Stick

Sounds like your Pards need to get off the fishing boats!!!! Or what there is left of them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> Hell the fishing industries been in the [bleep] for years in Coos County!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> And Mexicans are showing up left and right. Won�t belong and you will have some too!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

And as far as all the mills go around here the only ones left are the Union mills!!! I bet you would have never guessed that.
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