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#12195787 - 08/08/17 Re: Oils, CLP,s Homebrews, Solvents ect ect ect [Re: rost495]  
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Originally Posted by rost495
Thanks, I recall a STP/ATF recipe somewhere but I've used mobil 1 straight up, willing to try this too.

Jeff


Are you thinking of Ed's Red bore cleaner?

CMG 300 BP
#12196580 - 08/09/17 Re: Oils, CLP,s Homebrews, Solvents ect ect ect [Re: renegade50]  
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I don't think I ever had the bore cleaner, just someone kept giving me STP/ATF IIRC in bottles as in lubricant, not cleaner.

Although I"d never read your link, I"m fairly sure I met Ed at some point in our highpower shooting over the years.


We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
#12198214 - 08/10/17 Re: Oils, CLP,s Homebrews, Solvents ect ect ect [Re: renegade50]  
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Ed's Red doesn't contain STP. It's basically a mix of ATF, kerosene, acetone, and mineral spirits, and sometimes lanolin. (Google the recipe) Not much lubricating qualities there. I use it as a general cleaner, in lieu of Hoppes. It works a treat. I mixed a gallon of the stuff a few years ago and reckon I'll still be dipping into that jug for years to come.

I've known Ed Harris for over 30 years. He's quite the gentleman, and has forgotten more about shooting subjects than most of us will ever know.


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#12203241 - 08/12/17 Re: Oils, CLP,s Homebrews, Solvents ect ect ect [Re: renegade50]  
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Originally Posted by renegade50
Springco machine gunners lube.... google on the way.


http://www.sprinco.com/tactical.html

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MACHINE GUNNERS LUBE™

Machine Gunners Lube™ was developed to address specific requests from gun team leaders for a lube that would keep their machine guns properly lubricated during extended durations of full auto fire. Like most good gun teams, they work hard to stay on top of not letting the guns run dry. While many currently available lubes maintain lubricity when running "wet", some current war zone deployments do not favor traditional frequent and liberal applications, due to their propensity to attract fine desert silt particles, thereby increasing the risk of malfunctions. Our mission was to formulate a lube that would perform and protect weapon platforms in extreme environments subject to high heat, humidity, evaporative, and mechanical wear, even when applied lightly. Machine Gunners Lube™ meets these standards for all firearms ranging from handguns through .50 caliber machine guns.

Machine Gunners Lube™ is made from fully synthetic Group V base stocks. Poly Ester chains in Group V base stocks offer superior protection against thermal breakdown versus PAO's and GTL's, and contain significant natural solvent properties for self cleaning capabilities. In addition to minimizing carbon accumulation, the Poly Ester base oil acts as a water dispersant and corrosion inhibitor, protecting the lubricated parts in desert, jungle, and arctic climatic environments. Unique to Machine Gunners Lube™ is a proprietary re-micronized (0.3 micron) inhibited Molybdenum Disulfide (MOS2) component in colloidal suspension. In layman's terms, this means that the particles remain suspended within the lubricant, and do not segregate to the bottom of the container. Our inhibited MOS2 is specifically modified to retard, rather than induce corrosion. This moly component allows for a solid lubrication barrier in conjunction with the hydraulic lubrication afforded by the host synthetic lubricant. The re-micronized particles are small enough to penetrate the molecular lattice structure of the carbon, stainless, or chromium plated steel working surfaces of the weapon, where they are released under the heat of use to maintain the initial solid or "boundary" lubrication layer. No other moly additives on the market contain particles this small, nor do they share the unique ability to remain in colloidal suspension. Our proprietary manufacturing process allows the uniform distribution of the re-micronized MOS2 both within and upon the lubricated surfaces of the weapon. This ability provides a further advantage over other gun oils in the form of lubrication retention when the host / hydraulic lubricant is removed by mechanical, chemical, or environmental means. Basically, the weapon is still protected and has a functional advantage even when appearing "dry". The melting point of the MOS2 component is in excess of +2700°F !!! MSDS Available upon request to infotacticalsprings.com.

High shear strength, and not susceptible to mechanical wear. High shear strength equates to increased surface tension, which in turn, keeps your parts coated for extended durations. This property also allows the use of Machine Gunners Lube™ for personal carry firearms, as it does not "run off" the pistol.
Stability in extreme heat, maintaining lubrication properties in temperatures exceeding +650°F.
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Reduced carbon fouling deposition, and detergent properties make cleaning residue much easier and faster, even with .50 caliber platforms.
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Originally Posted by jorgeI
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
#12203421 - 08/12/17 Re: Oils, CLP,s Homebrews, Solvents ect ect ect [Re: renegade50]  
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If it is in a hole, or rotates, oil it.
If it slides or rubs under pressure, grease it.
My mantra.
With exceptions for firing pns and cold weather. We really do not have a dust problem here.


Clinging to our guns and God.....Yeah an Obama quote, but it fits.

Dogs and kids, they are worth the cost.
But,
sometimes you gotta do the math.
#12203802 - 08/12/17 Re: Oils, CLP,s Homebrews, Solvents ect ect ect [Re: renegade50]  
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I posted this for a Piston vs DI discussion a while back. If you scroll down the linked ARF.com thread, Ron from Henderson Defense also shares his experiences with lubes. Not much differentiation from the guy that runs more volume across more guns that all of us combined will ever do, but that in itself is a statement.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10590656/re-piston-guns#Post10590656

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