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What is the average body weight of these does? Why does that matter? Especially if he's shooting them in the head. For soft tissue shots. Easier to get a Stinger or Mini Mag through an 80# deer than a doe that will go 125# or more. I understand he said head shots only but if they are smallish 100# or so does I wouldn't think twice about a lung shot.
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I love Stingers but I'd try the Browning HV's with the 40gr. I have really come to love those.
Dave I "Heard" they are dirty. Any issues or is somebody blowing smoke up my azz?
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And to point...I have seen guys with 300 mags make [bleep] hits on deer, wound them grievously and never recover them. I am betting no one questioned them when they did it. at. A bad marksman, has nothing to do with the capability of the caliber. So what does an "excellent" marksman such as myself, have to say about "capability"?
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What is the average body weight of these does? Why does that matter? Especially if he's shooting them in the head. For soft tissue shots. Easier to get a Stinger or Mini Mag through an 80# deer than a doe that will go 125# or more. I understand he said head shots only but if they are smallish 100# or so does I wouldn't think twice about a lung shot. I'd think twice about the whole damn thing! lol
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I love Stingers but I'd try the Browning HV's with the 40gr. I have really come to love those.
Dave I "Heard" they are dirty. Any issues or is somebody blowing smoke up my azz? I haven't shot them, but I'm going to. I'll let you know.
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What is the average body weight of these does? Why does that matter? Especially if he's shooting them in the head. For soft tissue shots. Easier to get a Stinger or Mini Mag through an 80# deer than a doe that will go 125# or more. I understand he said head shots only but if they are smallish 100# or so does I wouldn't think twice about a lung shot. I'd think twice about the whole damn thing! lol To be honest I wouldn't think about it at even if legal. I have seen the above work, and work damn fast too. If I were me and I wanted quiet I would get me a 223 and suppress it shooting a 55 grain Gameking. Super deadly combination there, at least on these Missouri deer. Also understand not everybody has the funding for a can either. It's legal and if the shooter feels they are up to the task then why not. I personally wouldn't shoot #6 shot at turkeys but people do and the results speak for themselves. It's a legal method where the OP is so if that's what he wants to use then go ahead.
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Buying a silence and a rifle to shoot it for the ability to throw 5.56 subsonics when a 22LR is legal and effective is like buying a F350 to carry a lawnmower. While you may enjoy spending money for show, why no just use what's already available?
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Never said anything about spending money for show. Also never said you shouldn't use it.
Said go ahead of legal.
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Shot a coyote harassing a doe several years back precisely between ear and eye with late Dad's Marlin 60 and It went straight down with an exit.
She was a big one and remains best offhand shot I've made on game smaller than deer. Forty yards; I'm now partial to Velocitors.
Were it legal I'd shoot does that way.
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Buying a silence and a rifle to shoot it for the ability to throw 5.56 subsonics when a 22LR is legal and effective is like buying a F350 to carry a lawnmower. While you may enjoy spending money for show, why no just use what's already available? I'm guessing that was directed at me, so in short I already have the setup and no i didn't buy it "for show" I bought the suppressor because it's a lot of fun and for my kids to learn to shoot a variety of firearms with less noise. I usually use it on my .22 magnum but since the original post limited use to 22 lr I limited my response as well. To stabilize the larger bullets you need a faster twist and they hit with more authority than 32 or 40 grain bullets. the barrel I got was on sale, came threaded and still works great on all other 22 bullets out there. when shooting prairie dogs it doesn't spook others that are up allowing multiple shots from one location without spooking them. This setup allows the use of ALL 22 LR bullets already available.
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...While you may enjoy spending money for show... You are just putting on a "show" with this thread. Have you gotten all the attention you were seeking?
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And to point...I have seen guys with 300 mags make [bleep] hits on deer, wound them grievously and never recover them. I am betting no one questioned them when they did it. To say, if I make a poor shot does it matter what I used? A jaw hit with a 7mm mag is a wounded and quit possibly unrecoverable kill. I'm ONLY taking a perfect head shot. I can hunt from October till January and have a very liberal bag limit. And a already half full freezer. I'm not pressed to make shots due to haste and nerves or rush shots because I need the meat. Ok. But you're being an idiot, which is nothing new for you. You can marry a man in SC too, I'm guessing that is next? Yes, a jaw shot is a jaw shot with a 7mm, but should the opportunity to send one up the cheerio arrives after you f*cked up said deer, I'd count on a 150gr TSX being able to finish the deed over a 22LR Stinger. That you can't grasp the difference, surprises me not. Again, I'm all about using shiet that works when everything is wrong, not when everything is 'perfect', which clearly you are not. this^^^
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I'd use 40 grain solids over hp's, if it was me, and head shots were the only one I'd be taking. Whatever high-velocity 40 is giving me the best accuracy. I watched a deer drop dead to 3 Mini-Mags in the back of the head from a Ruger Mark II at about 80 yds. Bam Bam Bam while she was walking straight away. Hard to say whether the first two did any good, but the last definitely connected, and she died instantly. Sounds real ethical.
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I've shot a few deer with suppressed .22 Magnums while doing urban herd reduction work and they all died, but not all instantly even with short range standing head shots. Based on that experience, I wouldn't feel comfortable shooting deer with any currently offered rimfire cartridge/bullet combination unless it was a survival situation and then anything goes.
That said, since you're going to be shooting antlerless deer in a place with lots of deer and a liberal bag limit, if you happen to shoot one and can't recover it, it isn't the end of the world as no protein goes to waste on the forest floor. Well, since thats the case, may as well have fun and try to roll them running at 150 yards.
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Quite often people talk on here about the strange things bullets sometimes do.
I knew a crack shot rancher years ago told me about a big crippled stray he shot in the head at about 20 yards in the ranch dump to keep it from suffering. 22.
Ten days later it had crawled half a mile to try and get a drink of his dogs water in the ranchers back yard, half its head rotted off. Cured him.
Never was a man who did much shooting where he didnt miss or have crap happen.
Over half the head offers non immediately lethal matter. Most people who think they can send the message to fire and ALWAYS hit the brain before a deer can move its head dont know much about deer or shooting.
I will agree, some can make a noise and make a good head shot before the deer drops its head back down, provided another distraction doesnt occur to attract its attention before the bullet gets there.
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Quite often people talk on here about the strange things bullets sometimes do.
I knew a crack shot rancher years ago told me about a big crippled stray he shot in the head at about 20 yards in the ranch dump to keep it from suffering. 22.
Ten days later it had crawled half a mile to try and get a drink of his dogs water in the ranchers back yard, half its head rotted off. Cured him.
Never was a man who did much shooting where he didnt miss or have crap happen.
Over half the head offers non immediately lethal matter. Most people who think they can send the message to fire and ALWAYS hit the brain before a deer can move its head dont know much about deer or shooting.
I will agree, some can make a noise and make a good head shot before the deer drops its head back down, provided another distraction doesnt occur to attract its attention before the bullet gets there. +1
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to paraphrase jeff foxworthy, "if you find yourself shooting a deer with a 22LR, you're an azzhole"
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Quite often people talk on here about the strange things bullets sometimes do.
I knew a crack shot rancher years ago told me about a big crippled stray he shot in the head at about 20 yards in the ranch dump to keep it from suffering. 22.
Ten days later it had crawled half a mile to try and get a drink of his dogs water in the ranchers back yard, half its head rotted off. Cured him.
Never was a man who did much shooting where he didnt miss or have crap happen.
Over half the head offers non immediately lethal matter. Most people who think they can send the message to fire and ALWAYS hit the brain before a deer can move its head dont know much about deer or shooting.
I will agree, some can make a noise and make a good head shot before the deer drops its head back down, provided another distraction doesnt occur to attract its attention before the bullet gets there. And yet millions of people throw sticks at 300fps every year at deer and none utters a condemnation. Odd that.
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