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Been wondering the last day or so, when the Bolsheviks eventually outlaw the internal combustion engine, will it be possible to evacuate some place like Florida if everyone has electric cars? Is the range long enough? Don't they need a fair period of time to recharge? How do you accommodate everyone's charging needs all at once? If the power is already out I guess that makes your decision for you. Obviously have too much time on my hands to be worrying about something like this.


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They'll have wind powered generators. A hurricane will be ideal to keep them running.


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until the forecasting gets a little better, no one will know what direction to go. if one doesn't like the current forecast, wait 2 hours, and it'll change completely. that's just the nature of the beast i reckon.


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Will it be possible...

In a word... No!


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just need a long extension cord.


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By the time this happens you'll be able to plug in a USB stick for a quick charge of another 6-8 hours.

That or some kind of wind turbine charge on demand.


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With a Tesla Model S, with the optional extra battery, you can get about 280 miles on a charge at 70 mph. Now with Tesla's free charging stations (they have a map online where they are, and one is in my hometown at the mall about 2 miles from my house). They can recharge you in about 45 minutes for another 280 miles. They have charging stations paced about 200 miles apart across the country following the interstate system. Florida is LONG, and if you were in south Florida, you would have to recharge probably around Orlando then get to the Georgia border. With an extension chord, you can recharge at a motel where you can pull up to the door in front and recharge with 110v in about 8 hours, about 3 hours with 220v. Then the quick charge is about 440 or so at their charging stations in about 45 minutes. Tesla made their charging equipment connections free to other companies if they make electric cars. Top speed is 140 mph, 0-60 in 3 seconds. However faster than 70 and your range goes down. 45 mph and you might get 400-500 miles on a charge.

Tesla is coming out with a tractor trailer truck (18 wheeler) soon, it will be announced on Sept. 28. It's range will probably be much greater. They have their new Model 3's coming out soon for $35,000 and have a back order with down payments of over 100,000 from customers.

I have seriously considered one. I can recharge about once every two weeks at our mall FREE, and not use my power for around town driving. Then I could use it by planning my routes for vacations and visiting my kids. No cost for fuel. The fuel savings alone would help pay for the car. No oil changes, etc. One of the German car companies is going all-electric on their vehicles within 10 years. Tesla sells a huge amount of vehicles to China, because of pollution and their higher cost of imported oil. I believe we are on the beginning of conversion to electrics or at least all hybrids within 20 years. Prices are coming down on electrics to compete with gasoline vehicles. Speed and range are much better than 30 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
They'll have wind powered generators. A hurricane will be ideal to keep them running.


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Originally Posted by RufusG
Been wondering the last day or so, when the Bolsheviks eventually outlaw the internal combustion engine, will it be possible to evacuate some place like Florida if everyone has electric cars? Is the range long enough? Don't they need a fair period of time to recharge? How do you accommodate everyone's charging needs all at once? If the power is already out I guess that makes your decision for you. Obviously have too much time on my hands to be worrying about something like this.

I think the ultimate plan is that at service stations you don't charge your batteries, but replace your batteries with fully charged ones. They then take your batteries and charge them so they can be placed in some other car.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I think the ultimate plan is that at service stations you don't charge your batteries, but replace your batteries with fully charged ones. They then take your batteries and charge them so they can be placed in some other car.


That would certainly work better, at least for a while, than the 45 minutes Dixie Dude describes above, but I think the sheer volume of people going long distance at the same time would break that system down eventually.

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Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude
With a Tesla Model S, with the optional extra battery, you can get about 280 miles on a charge at 70 mph. Now with Tesla's free charging stations (they have a map online where they are, and one is in my hometown at the mall about 2 miles from my house). They can recharge you in about 45 minutes for another 280 miles. They have charging stations paced about 200 miles apart across the country following the interstate system. Florida is LONG, and if you were in south Florida, you would have to recharge probably around Orlando then get to the Georgia border. With an extension chord, you can recharge at a motel where you can pull up to the door in front and recharge with 110v in about 8 hours, about 3 hours with 220v. Then the quick charge is about 440 or so at their charging stations in about 45 minutes. Tesla made their charging equipment connections free to other companies if they make electric cars. Top speed is 140 mph, 0-60 in 3 seconds. However faster than 70 and your range goes down. 45 mph and you might get 400-500 miles on a charge.

Tesla is coming out with a tractor trailer truck (18 wheeler) soon, it will be announced on Sept. 28. It's range will probably be much greater. They have their new Model 3's coming out soon for $35,000 and have a back order with down payments of over 100,000 from customers.

I have seriously considered one. I can recharge about once every two weeks at our mall FREE, and not use my power for around town driving. Then I could use it by planning my routes for vacations and visiting my kids. No cost for fuel. The fuel savings alone would help pay for the car. No oil changes, etc. One of the German car companies is going all-electric on their vehicles within 10 years. Tesla sells a huge amount of vehicles to China, because of pollution and their higher cost of imported oil. I believe we are on the beginning of conversion to electrics or at least all hybrids within 20 years. Prices are coming down on electrics to compete with gasoline vehicles. Speed and range are much better than 30 years ago.


Until I can drive 1000 miles in a day with a 15 minutes total worth of stops, they can keep them.


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Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude

I have seriously considered one. I can recharge about once every two weeks at our mall FREE, and not use my power for around town driving. Then I could use it by planning my routes for vacations and visiting my kids. No cost for fuel. The fuel savings alone would help pay for the car. No oil changes, etc. One of the German car companies is going all-electric on their vehicles within 10 years. Tesla sells a huge amount of vehicles to China, because of pollution and their higher cost of imported oil. I believe we are on the beginning of conversion to electrics or at least all hybrids within 20 years. Prices are coming down on electrics to compete with gasoline vehicles. Speed and range are much better than 30 years ago.


Somebody is paying to charge your car now. I hope you don't think it will be free to you forever. Plus we're all paying for your tax subsidy on the purchase. Not to mention who is going to pay to dispose of all the worn out batteries?


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Wow good observation ..I never thought of that....we will see what happens somday in sothern California when the have another big one..bet those electric cars won't fare well....funny they won't see it coming either till its to one late...

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The whole idea is to make it so expensive and such a pain n the arse to drive that only the rich and elite will drive and the rest of us will ride the bus.


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Compare any modern car with a 1950 model. They keep inventing and improving and now we have cars that will last 3 times longer, get much better mileage, and keep you a lot safer, too. They'll keep working on electrics and little by little, they'll solve the problems and drawbacks and make them workable. It takes time, money, and some very smart people but they'll get it done. Tesla has done a lot to change electrics and they deserve a lot of applause.


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Pretty simple to deal with the lack of range on Hybrids and Straight Electric Cars...

Just install a mini nuclear reactor in them...


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They will put a hand crank you can turn and recharge them just like flashlights.

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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
They will put a hand crank you can turn and recharge them just like flashlights.


or foot pedals......oh wait...they already got that , it's called a bicycle.


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IMHO not a great idea to purchase a Tesla.

Electric vehicles seem (somewhat) interesting till you thoroughly investigate them. Actual cost per mile is close to a gasoline vehicle. Tesla batteries have a life of 8 yrs. Replacement is $12,000!!! Add that to the huge cost of buying the vehicle vs keeping your current gas guzzler and there is little to no economy to owning one. Amortization costs will have you breaking even after decades of ownership if ever.

Sure there is a federal tax credit of $7,500. In some states, additional tax credits or rebates can yield a total rebate of up to $9,500

Then there is the issue of the batteries degrading and finally wearing out.
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/real-long-term-cost-vs-battery-life

Only the hard to get model 3 which costs $35,000 is worth considering. The other models are extremely expensive ranging from $69,500 to $145,000.
More than 500,000 people have signed up to reserve a Model 3 to date.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/loans/cost-tesla/

Then there is the feel good part, "they don't pollute". Somewhere electricity is generated. The true description for electric cars is displaced pollution vehicles.

Your mileage may vary.....

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