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Originally Posted by 45_100
Once you sort through the BS there are some really good suggestions in this thread. Approach it from the standpoint we will support outlawing bump stocks. In return you support outlawing abortions which kill many more unborn children. After all children are the future of the nation!


Outlawing abortion for outlawing bumpstocks is reciprocal give and take negotiations. Up to now it's all us give and they take, you know, 50/50. I say BS, hit em where it hurts them, not us.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by 45_100
Once you sort through the BS there are some really good suggestions in this thread. Approach it from the standpoint we will support outlawing bump stocks. In return you support outlawing abortions which kill many more unborn children. After all children are the future of the nation!


Outlawing abortion for outlawing bumpstocks is reciprocal give and take negotiations. Up to now it's all us give and they take, you know, 50/50. I say BS, hit em where it hurts them, not us.


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Anything short of national reciprocity is throwing away a good bargaining chip.

Trump ran on making deals. Let's see him make one.


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Originally Posted by GeoW
No. Do not bargain the Second Ammendment away, no way, no how

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Strap yourself in - no one is willing to bargain away the 2A.

If bump stocks are going to be taking a long walk on a short bridge, the R's need to get a concession or two from the Dems. Just caving to the "issue du jour" is typical of the R's.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by 45_100
Once you sort through the BS there are some really good suggestions in this thread. Approach it from the standpoint we will support outlawing bump stocks. In return you support outlawing abortions which kill many more unborn children. After all children are the future of the nation!


Outlawing abortion for outlawing bumpstocks is reciprocal give and take negotiations. Up to now it's all us give and they take, you know, 50/50. I say BS, hit em where it hurts them, not us.


Reminds me.......

When the wife and I got married she told me she wanted a cat, I told her I did not want a cat in the house, so we compromised, we got a cat. wink


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MAGA!! Do not give in.

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12344mag you should run for Congress as a Republican. With those egotiating skills you will fit right in.

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Originally Posted by 12344mag


When the wife and I got married she told me she wanted a cat, I told her I did not want a cat in the house,
so we compromised, we got a cat. wink


Guys have fought tooth and nail for custody of the cat (or dog) long after a wife has walked... laugh

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The only full automatic or select fire firearms that can be legally purchased by the average Joe have to have been manufactured
prior to 1986 and been registered prior to 1986. Then you need to live in an area where you are permitted to own class III, put in
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After jumping through all the T-2 NFA Class III hoops , one must be prepared to then pay the market price of such pre-June 86' FAs.




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Personally, I think it’s a good idea.
The fact is, bump stocks are going to be restricted or banned, soon.
I think the republicans should;
Kill the Feinstein bill in committee.
Write their own bill combining strict “bump stock” restrictions with the hearing protecting act, CCW reciprocity and at least one more firearms related item that the Democrats will really choke on.
Then, negotiate away the last part and insist on the first three as a combined bill.
Force it to a vote and the Dems can vote however they want.
If they vote “no”, then THEY killed the bump stock bill.
If enough vote yes, then we get two things we really want, and give up one thing that most of us don’t care about.


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my comments:

"compromise" means BOTH sides give up something:

Bump fire stocks for:

suppressors off the NFA, (its SAFETY equipment!)
all NFA restrictions on barrel and overall length eliminated - (senseless rules)
all state and local anti-gun laws declared null and void (just like all state and local gay marriage bans)
allow newly manufactured/imported full auto to be registered into NFA as transferable
CCW reciprocity
Any gun, ammo or accessory legal to own is legal to manufacture or import.

just a thought.....

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Y’all are forgetting who the “enemy” is. It’s not Dem Congresscritters, it’s the guy down the street that votes for them.

A lot of those guys are gun owners, but not gun nuts. You dig in your heels on these silly assed gadgets as if they truly had some value and those guys don’t want to be identified with you.

And those are the guys we need with us when the Dems get back in power and attempt a serious gun grab.

The NRA made the right move..... hang the gadgets around the neck it belongs on, Obama’s BATFE.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by 45_100
Once you sort through the BS there are some really good suggestions in this thread. Approach it from the standpoint we will support outlawing bump stocks. In return you support outlawing abortions which kill many more unborn children. After all children are the future of the nation!


Outlawing abortion for outlawing bumpstocks is reciprocal give and take negotiations. Up to now it's all us give and they take, you know, 50/50. I say BS, hit em where it hurts them, not us.


Reminds me.......

When the wife and I got married she told me she wanted a cat, I told her I did not want a cat in the house, so we compromised, we got a cat. wink

Well, at least you discussed it!


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If the LV shooter had used a shotgun, with an extended magazine, and a pink bow tied to the triggerguard, there would be an outcry to have the extended mag and the pink bow banned. The anti-gun people will seize on every chance they get to have something banned, or restricted.

Now, do I want or need a bump stock.....no. Never even thought about wanting one.

Do I want or need a suppressor......you bet I do. My ears ring all the time, and are sensitive as heck, so I think something like that would be a Godsend.

But, I'll bet a dollar to a donut, that the bill to lower the restrictions on suppressors will be dropped, and that bump stocks will be banned. Given a choice, I'd much rather have a suppressor.

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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
........ realizing how this may go with so many weak kneed R's.
IMHO, you have your answer right there...


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Originally Posted by Steve
Anything short of national reciprocity is throwing away a good bargaining chip.

Trump ran on making deals. Let's see him make one.


The republicans control the house, senate, and whitehouse, explain to me why the need to bargain with the dema on anything??


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Whats the legislative record so far this year, especially with significant laws?


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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Originally Posted by Steve
Anything short of national reciprocity is throwing away a good bargaining chip.

Trump ran on making deals. Let's see him make one.


The republicans control the house, senate, and whitehouse, explain to me why the need to bargain with the dema on anything??

Bingo!

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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Originally Posted by Steve
Anything short of national reciprocity is throwing away a good bargaining chip.

Trump ran on making deals. Let's see him make one.


The republicans control the house, senate, and whitehouse, explain to me why the need to bargain with the dema on anything??


Because republicans are either pissing up a rope, pissing into the wind, or pissing down their leg.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by 45_100
Once you sort through the BS there are some really good suggestions in this thread. Approach it from the standpoint we will support outlawing bump stocks. In return you support outlawing abortions which kill many more unborn children. After all children are the future of the nation!


Outlawing abortion for outlawing bumpstocks is reciprocal give and take negotiations. Up to now it's all us give and they take, you know, 50/50. I say BS, hit em where it hurts them, not us.


Reminds me.......

When the wife and I got married she told me she wanted a cat, I told her I did not want a cat in the house, so we compromised, we got a cat. wink

That is oddly reminiscent of my wife and her fish tank.................... wink


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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Originally Posted by Steve
Anything short of national reciprocity is throwing away a good bargaining chip.

Trump ran on making deals. Let's see him make one.


The republicans control the house, senate, and whitehouse, explain to me why the need to bargain with the dema on anything??
Simple - because they 'wanna be "liked" and to "get along"... I.e., cave in like a cheap card table..

Rush said it best. Dems have killers instincts.. GOP only wants to survive..


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