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Buyer isn't happy with something I sold someplace else, item was advertised for what it was with a couple good pictures and no additional pictures were asked for. Price I asked was discounted quite a bit from something in excellent shape. I don't feel it's a legit complaint, but more a case of buyers remorse.

Good business/person side of me says fine, I'll take it back minus shipping and there's a part of me saying screw it. I've had plenty of cases of buyers remorse, or have bought things and didn't ask enough questions and just dealt with things that weren't necessarily hid but weren't disclosed either but at the same time realized I paid a discounted price.

Opinions?

To me money is less important than the grief of someone dogging me about something I sold them. Treating people right, even PITA people has a way of paying itself forward.

Your choice but I usually charge people a 10% fee for my time and shipping to return something that is in perfect working order as described.

I would take items back if they had a legitimate reason for the return but if it was something like you describe and offered as such then they bought it.

What FatCity67 does makes sense to me too.

Mail it back and they pay for shipping.

Explain that you already bought tires for the wife's Harley with th money, but you have a pristine Charger you could offer them.

It's super annoying when that happens but to me it's not worth risking a gay pissing match or call-out thread.

Haha totally, we've seen that work pretty well. The first 6 times you do this everyone will go out of their way to vouch for you and tell the other chump how awesome you are. Only good for about 6 times though

7th time is a real biotch.....

Cal, just take it back, save the grief...

I would also keep the info and not do dealings with the person again.

I may have a bipod somewhere.

A suggestion: Have him send you a signed statement that there was nothing deficient or wrong with the item - that he simply decided he does not want it. If he does that and ships it back to you in same condition as sent, refund his purchase price.

You're the only one who can lower your standards. It's never worth it.

Price - shipping is good, as are the notions of a 10% "restocking fee" and/or having him sign a note saying the items were in working order. Any of those would suss-out whether the guy was going to have any buy-in to the transaction.

Either way, you're offering him an out, without sacrificing your integrity. It could be he'll just decide that grumbling was enough, & keep the thing.

FC

Apparently, you're having trouble with buyers on other sites too.

Although it has nothing to do with buyer's remorse, I'll quote the PM I wrote you today about the item you sold me:

"The rifle is in rough shape. You stipulated: "Sako Rhimmiki .222 good to vg condition - few handling marks and some blueing wear. Been sitting in the safe for way too long without seeing any use. Includes rings and one magazine"

The stock has many more than "few handling marks" and the bluing has lots of wear, showing signs of having had considerable surface rust. Borescoping shows pitting and considerable throat erosion, scope mount screw heads are buggered, etc. The rifle is not in good to very good condition. I accepted the condition as reported in your listing, which consisted of three sentence fragments and two marginal photographs. None of the rifles flaws were specifically documented narratively or with pictures. My expectations were framed by your listing. Upon receiving the rifle, I find its condition falls short of what one would reasonably expect based on your description. It's the responsibility of the seller to accurately and thoroughly represent the item for sale. Buyers are blind until presented with the actual item. You were advanced payment in good faith. I too am disappointed. Had this rifle been more thoroughly documented, I would have passed on it, saving us both the trouble.

Initially, I was prepared to cover the return shipping as a gesture of good will. I haven't taken the time to thoroughly photograph and narrate the condition of the rifle received and would hope this could be resolved without drama."

Fuggit. Split the losses and move on.

I didn't want to throw any names out as I don't think I'm in the wrong and now it's your opinion against mine and I'm sure depending on who it is there will be sides taken.

This is far from a safariman experience, but apparently what I feel is good to very good for an old rifle someone else feels otherwise. This is only my opinion, but the rifle was listed for well under what other similar ones go for on gunbroker and with the couple pics that were in the ad I do honestly feel it was represented accurately.. If I thought it was in excellent condition with no wear I would have asked considerable more for it. I do apologize that you are not happy with the rifle, but I also believe it's more a case of buyers remorse than a legitimate complaint.

There are no signs of any rust. Is there blueing wear, yes there is. Are there handling marks on the stock, yes there are. It's a 65 year old rifle that's been hunted/used but not abused. I wouldn't sell something on here or any other site where I've ever been that I thought I was misrepresenting.

I do not own a bore-scope, but to the naked eye the bore looks fine.

I offered to take it back, minus shipping costs and a 10% fee or a return of 50.00 if it helped to make it right. I didn't advertise the rifle with a buy back if someone was not happy. You or anyone else could have asked for more pictures or more detail. There wasn't anything to hide on the barrel, minus the blueing wear and the pictures show the stock pretty clearly. There certainly was not any rust.

You mentioned the screws were buggered, are they perfect no but they're far from buggered or stripped or anything other than being turned in and out a few times in the last five decades and are perfectly functional.

On this site and many others, I have nothing but a 100% feedback and have never been accused of deceiving anyone.

Nothing was ever asked about if anyone was not happy that there was a return policy. The rifle has been transferred and I will not accept a return to an FFL (and I stated that in a pm earlier) where I have to spend a couple hours round trip and an additional 30.00 transfer fee. The closest one to me is an hour round trip and 75.00 fee. If it could just be shipped back to me at this point, I'd say minus my costs involved and ship it back on his dime.


It should be noted Brian also agreed to some ammo/brass that I had just created a shipping label for earlier today, I was able to void the label and hopefully get refunded but I will also return the amount we agreed upon for the ammo/brass. I was not able to ship that out until today and it was on it's way to be dropped off when all of this became an issue. I will get that check out first thing Monday AM.

I've bought things things on here and elsewhere where I wish I would have asked for more details, but also blamed myself for not asking as long as nothing was hidden or lied about. If it wasn't for the photobucket crap, I would have posted more pics in the ad to begin with as there was/is nothing to hide.


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../12333490/sako-rhimmiki-222#Post12333490


Shipment I created just this morning (deleted his name/address)

From: CALVIN
Tracking Number:
1Z281T760393735145
Ship To:

US
UPS Service: UPS GROUND
Number of Packages: 1
Package Weight: 6.0 LBS
Scheduled Delivery: 11/03/2017


Take your sides and say what you will, but I'm done.

If you'd have spent as much time on your listing, as you have trying to cover your ass after the fact, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

This topic is worthless without pictures.

Just what was said so far if it was me i would un do the deal.

Next time have good photos and do a better job describing whatever it is.

Hope you get it resolved.

No one is happier than I. From your description of said sako...I would have jumped on it also.

That is the biggest problem with sellers ..... unable or unwilling to ACCURATELY state condition.

Vague terms leads to $hit like this .

However , all that being said, Buyer appears to have read between the lines a little. If original Sako rings ...worth $ 125 or so. Take the SOB and rebarrel and rublue and build something. I have bought several Marlin/Sako .222's with micro grooved ...shot out bbls., which I expected. I know this is not a Marlin / Sako.
This could have been sold for same price if accurately described .... Rhimaki actions are desired.

If bore has pitting , Cal you are not being honest. One does not need a F U CK I N G borescope to see if bore is pitted / rusty.

And all the crap about returns is another excuse.

Feed back and good guy sellers list is a bunch of crap also. I have my own list annd Cal has just made it.

Sounds to me like you owe Kingston his money back, shipping charges only...no $50 fee for your inaccurate/misleading representation of the rifle.

I don't see "buys remorse" at all, I see the seller stiffing someone out of hard earned money....most of us are on many other sites too, word travels fast in classified sections.