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I'll re-post Cal74's photos and description here for you.......

My FFL has called me several times with concerns about the condition, and once, refused it without asking me first. He always asks what condition it's supposed to be in Im sure he's the exception to the rule though.
What is the gun worth in the condition it's in?

I don't care how good those pics look, or if it was like new in box. That bore pic takes it right on down to stock and action donar.

I’ve never refused a gun I bought at the FFL . But can’t you refuse it and just send it back to the sending FFL without putting it in the books at YOUR FFL?

Id have said fair to good condition by those pics, but one man's fair is another good.
I bought a Leupold scope based on a description and no pics because the price was low. I said "I'll take it" quick knowing if I didn't someone else would. Surprised when it arrived. Completely "plumbed" out to a purple color and it was much older than I expected. Said screw it and gave it to a buddy who needed one. It was only $125 though, so no comparison to $675.00

My worthless opinion is that he should give you $100 back. You'd have a decent deal at that and he keeps his reputation.

Guess that was my question. My FFL has refused and sent it back to the sender for me. I have no clue how chain of custody works in this situation. I assume it was too late when Kingston went to pick it up because his FFL had accepted it?

This was shipped directly to me on my FFL03. It arrived as a package that I signed for. I opened the package inspected the contents, contacted the seller regarding condition and entered it into my book. To me the gun is a liability (has negative value). It was intended to be a birthday present to myself. I purchased the whole package thinking I was buying fully functional classic in user condition, not a parts gun project.

If the rifle was bought as a shooter $100 is meaningless

This is why I sell face to face 95% of the time. Now I did just sell a Savage 99 in 60% condition on Gunbroker and the buyer contacted me and thanked me. He said he found the gun to be as advertised and there were no surprises.

how much, all my rifles end up getting beat up in the end.

That barrel rifling looks perfect from here,,,,GTFOH

Give the man his money back, you should have looked the gun over better before you rated it's condition...a pitted barrel changes the game.

I'd say you've been cheated. Kinda doubt that guy is going to suddenly find honesty

It's one thing selling a WWII surplus rifle that has fired corrosive ammo with a pitted bore and describing it as good or very good. A sporter chambered in a round that was never loaded with corrosive ammo, that would be considered as optimistically fair condition but more likely poor condition.

I recently purchased a used SUV for my 15 year old son and everyone who I talked to about the vehicle that they had for sale misrepresented it in some way.

Some were little lies, like the fellow who claimed that the Michelin tires on his Jeep Grand Cherokee were less than a year old, but the production date codes showed that they were made in December 2013 and January 2014.

Some were whoppers, like the Toyota Highlander that the seller claimed to have a clean title and to have been his wife's daily driver for three years when it had actually been titled in Colorado until it was totaled in August 2017 and sold for parts.

One vehicle had a lot of hail damage that didn't appear on the CARFAX report, so the seller suggested that I just wait until the first hail storm in the area next Spring and file a claim with my insurance carrier.

I guess that integrity is a much less common attribute than I had thought.

I have to wonder how well that gun really shoots.

I really enjoy the way your mind works, particularly now that your livin life as you should be....have half a mind to book a cheap Southwestern flight just to come up there and enjoy the ramblings!

I definitely expect a 55 year old carbon steel barrel to have some barrel pitting and a worn throat and would ask if I cared about it. It's obviously a hunters rifle based on the obvious bluing loss on the trigger guard, scope base nuts and bolt knob.

Does cal74 have a history of ripping people off?

As an FFL could you have refused and sent it back? Or once you accept the package you have to enter it in the log book? What's the protocol?
Just curious how the process works.

WTF?!

One of the members here bought a rem 700 .223 in very rough condition, it literally looked like the gun was stored muzzle down in the bilge of a boat, or drug behind a snow mobile. I cut off 4" of the barrel, recrowned it and as I recall he said it shot 1/2" groups.

Guns can look like crap and shoot fine.