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Eventually I want to get one "long range" gun and put a SWFA scope or save up for a 3-10 SHV Nightforce or similar quality scope. For the rest of my guns I want to sight in and use a BDC reticle like the Burris Ballistic Plex. After having a couple of problems myself with Leupold and seeing how many newer Leupold's are failing I'm not going to consider them anymore which is a shame since they were so good for many years. Going to keep my older M 8 fixed powers since they have held zero well.
So what are some good scopes with a BDC style reticle that will be durable and stay zeroed?
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I want to like the Burris Droptine with the G2B Mil-Dot reticle. I can't find any good reviews on them.
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Ive had good luck with Burris FF, Weaver Classic V series, and Bushnell Elites. My favorite of the 3 would probably be the weavers, though when it comes to drop reticles, Burris takes the cake. Also like the sigtron HHR reticle.
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For set and forget scopes where weight isn’t a concern I’ve been running Meopta scopes for three seasons now and been very happy.
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I'll second Meopta scopes
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Meopta and cabelas euro work great
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Burris E1 Ballistic plex , the FFII is solid and the Weaver is too but if I had to choose one I'll take an E1 ballistic plex 4.5-14
They sell a plain plex E1 too, be careful what you order!
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I've had good reliable service with Burris FFII and Meopta scopes, and each offers ballistic plex type reticles.
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So what are some good scopes with a BDC style reticle that will be durable and stay zeroed?
In my experience, and apparently JBs experience too, you already hit upon the solution...the Burris Ballistic Plex. Never a bobble, even on the Philippine made ones....
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The quality of the Philippine FFII's isn't surprising, since they're made on the same machinery they were in the states, which Burris trained the Philippine workers to use.
In fact, when the switch to the Philippines was made, and many American shooters assumed quality would go downhill, I obtained a Philipinne 3-9x for testing. There wasn't any change in optics (the lenses were made in Asia on the "American" scopes), and the fit and finish got better, probably because Philippine wages were enough lower to allow more time to be spent doing the job.
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Good to know JB...when we talked about this very subject recently I had to agree with you. Ive had 6 Burris with BP, some with thousands of varmint rounds shot under them and some relatively rough handling....nary a bobble. Like the OP on a serious hunting rifle I want it to be like a pocket camera- point and shoot. The less stuff to monkey with, the better. Just put a 3x9 Burris with BP on a .30-06 project I was working on...I have a new "big' gun!
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How stout are you planning to load the big gun?
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Tom,
Killed my biggest bull elk, both in body and antlers, with a .30-06 and 3-9x40 FFII a decade ago. Even used factory loads!
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Good to know JB...when we talked about this very subject recently I had to agree with you. Ive had 6 Burris with BP, some with thousands of varmint rounds shot under them and some relatively rough handling....nary a bobble. Like the OP on a serious hunting rifle I want it to be like a pocket camera- point and shoot. The less stuff to monkey with, the better. Just put a 3x9 Burris with BP on a .30-06 project I was working on...I have a new "big' gun! Wow! That's like a stunt shooter's T-Rex rifle!
What fresh Hell is this?
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Tom,
Killed my biggest bull elk, both in body and antlers, with a .30-06 and 3-9x40 FFII a decade ago. Even used factory loads! That can't possibly be true.....
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Good to know JB...when we talked about this very subject recently I had to agree with you. Ive had 6 Burris with BP, some with thousands of varmint rounds shot under them and some relatively rough handling....nary a bobble. Like the OP on a serious hunting rifle I want it to be like a pocket camera- point and shoot. The less stuff to monkey with, the better. Just put a 3x9 Burris with BP on a .30-06 project I was working on...I have a new "big' gun! Wow! That's like a stunt shooter's T-Rex rifle! I'm prepping and waiting for the 'Great Migration' of Mastodons to return from the north....
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Speaking of scopes made in the Philippines, I have several of the Filipino Simmons Whitetail Classics, pretty decent scopes for under $100, in 1.5-5x20 on Malrlin 336s and 3.5-10x40s on several bolt guns in the 243 thru 30-06 class.
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"Good sight in and forget scopes." When you think about it, it's pretty sad that such a subject need even be broached. Shouldn't all decent quality scopes be 'sight in and forget?' Not so these days, unfortunately.
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