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I ordered a box of 155's (the "standard" Scenar). The immediate need is for a .30-06 M70 Fwt. If they work I'll give them a whirl in a fussy .300 Weatherby. Heck they might work in a .308 AR, too.
The "L" version would be good to know about, as well.
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That 155 Scenar should take the "boredom" out of the 30-06 for the rifle aficionados. Numbers wise its hard to beat. Clearly dead-schit wise it is too.
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And somewhere buried on this site is a cut away of a Scenar and Berger. Good luck finding it, because I can't.
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Ramshot says 3000 fps is attainable with 155's. The 70 has a 22" barrel, so I'll be happy with 2900. Pity it's not my #1, which has a 26". BG will easily drive 150's over 3100 in that rifle.
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Found it! 7mm's L-R, 150 Scenar,180 Scenar and a 168 Berger
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Anybody tried the 155 Scenar in the 300 Win mag? My new to me encore barrel didn't shoot 165 partitions well, but liked the 180's much better. Loading to do, loading to do!
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here is the exit of two 155's on a 8+ score brown bear 300 wsm fueled with a healthy dose of rl 17 needless to say the guide was impressed and there was really no point in the second shot
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Damn them are some exit holes for sure.....how far did that bear go after the shot?......pretty impressive. I'll try either the 155's in my 308, or the 139 out of 260 in a few weeks from now on a cow elk or two.
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well my hunting pard shot his antalope with the 155 scenar. the lope got all of the 3200 fps from the 300 h&h. the shot can at about 50 yrds. after a 1/2 mile stalk in the fog, we came over a ridge and he was close enough to hit with a rock. caliber size hole going in and a 1.5" exit, the jacket fell out of the exit hole during field dressing. it was peeled back all the way to the base, and looked like a tsx. no core was left. it resulted in a dead antelope. the old "bang flop" if you will. we will continue using the scenar because a sample of one "ain't" enough to make a good evaluation. now in need to try them in my 30-06 and 308
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180 L next to 162Amax, for schits and giggles... Fancy butt too
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I killed a large 6pt bull elk about two weeks ago in Idaho. Somewhere in the 320 inch range. I used 155 grain scenars in a 308. The shot was 200yds, the bull didn't know I was there. At the shot the bull ran about 15 or 20yds, stopped, and then tumbled down the hill. He was dead in about 5 or 6 seconds after the shot. I hit the bull through both lungs, deliberately missing the shoulders. The bullet hit a rib on the way in, so expansion was immediate. There was a hole through both lungs about the size of a golf ball. What was left of the bullet was under the off side hide. No exit hole. I was amazed at how quick the bull died. The destruction of vitals by the scenar bullet was very impressive.
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What are you guys using in the 300wm. 155's,175,167?
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180 L next to 162Amax, for schits and giggles... Fancy butt too Plenty of bearing surface on the 180.
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I just shot a huge Russian boar after dark tonight with a 155 scenar. 200 yards 2 and 1/2 hours after sunset using an Elusive Wildlife brand Blindsider green light. Rifle was a Weatherby Vanguard II, .30-06 caliber with about 2850 MV using a load of 56 grains of IMR 4350. This rifle doesn't open easy with higher loads. The scope is a 4X12 Leupold VX-R with lighted reticle. Everthing lined up perfect, the light was on, the hog was eating, the hold and shot were steady. Fired at mid ribs and after recovery from recoil the hog was gone. Rifle is sighted in at that distance and I can't believe it was a miss. Haven't missed one shooting from a dead rest in years. No blood, no hair, nothing. I have noticed when shooting milk jugs full of water the Scenar does not blow them up like our .270 with Winchester Power Points does. Will report back tomorrow after my son and his girlfriend and I do a search. Wasn't too interested in tracking dangerous game alone in the dark Louisiana jungle. I'm on Xarelto blood anti coagulant and could end up bleeding more than the pig.
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155’s at 3250 FPS from my 300 wsm Montana sure impresses everything I have used it for. 1-1.5” exits and the wound channel is always straight and solid so I don’t think they are tumbling or blowing up from my experiences.
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Anybody using them in an ugly black rifle?
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Anybody using them in an ugly black rifle? My AR10 loved them over R15, 47gr IIRC. Sub moa was the rule and it left nothing to be desired from that rifle
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I just shot a huge Russian boar after dark tonight with a 155 scenar. 200 yards 2 and 1/2 hours after sunset using an Elusive Wildlife brand Blindsider green light. Rifle was a Weatherby Vanguard II, .30-06 caliber with about 2850 MV using a load of 56 grains of IMR 4350. This rifle doesn't open easy with higher loads. The scope is a 4X12 Leupold VX-R with lighted reticle. Everthing lined up perfect, the light was on, the hog was eating, the hold and shot were steady. Fired at mid ribs and after recovery from recoil the hog was gone. Rifle is sighted in at that distance and I can't believe it was a miss. Haven't missed one shooting from a dead rest in years. No blood, no hair, nothing. I have noticed when shooting milk jugs full of water the Scenar does not blow them up like our .270 with Winchester Power Points does. Will report back tomorrow after my son and his girlfriend and I do a search. Wasn't too interested in tracking dangerous game alone in the dark Louisiana jungle. I'm on Xarelto blood anti coagulant and could end up bleeding more than the pig. My neighboring landowner just now reported to me that I in fact did kill this hog in question. He expired about 500 yards from point of impact after not leaving a trace of blood in the vicinity where he was shot. I held the crosshairs further back than usual on this hog due to his shoulder being behind the T-post mounted feeder. The bullet must have passed through with little to no expansion maybe behind the diaphragm. Three nights ago I shot another hog at the same place and distance. This time with a Hornady 150 grain flat base lead nosed bullet. This hog was shot low quartering away. I aimed at the back ribs with the line of bullet travel toward the off side shoulder. Still no blood at all, but dead within 40 steps. I can't disown the 155 Scenar over this but it sure does seem to not expand without meeting considerable resistance or shot at considerable velocity.
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Bumping this thread up for the upcoming season! Yes, lets do this again. Looking forward to another hunting season. I just might run with my .308 Win. this year. I'm thinking it would be a good move on my part. I'm just about all dialed in with the 155's I also have a load with 168 grain, Nosler Long Rang A/B. Wish you all the best.
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