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"To the Republic, for which it stands".

Damn Richard! That's the very FIRST thing I thought of too!!!

I would certainly not be opposed to some type of "means test" to determine voter eligibility.

I mean, it's crazy that people who do not pay taxes or contribute to our society get to vote on how our tax dollars are spent, right?

People that have no "skin in the game" are always going to vote to take more of yours.

This.

Personally, I think that's not a bad idea. It should be like a company, one where only the shareholders are allowed to vote. You own property and pay taxes............then you get to vote. You don't own anything and pay no taxes.......then shut the blank up.

Years ago, I was discussing this same topic with a person, about our local schools. I said that I thought that since people who owned property had to pay school taxes, even if they didn't have children attending school, then those people who had children but paid no school tax, should be forced to do community work for those schools. That's how it ought to operate.

ya know, when I am around folks saying the Pledge of Allegiance I have noticed
that most folks say it kind of mechanically...citing it like they are a drone...
and sort of never really pausing as they recite it, so it all just runs together like
one big sentence...

When I say it, I say it like it is written... with each sentence and a pause
at where the sentence ends...

In doing so, I am not saying it like a Robotic Drone, but affirming each sentence

I pledge allegiance....

to the Flag...of the United States of America

and to the Republic... for which it stands..

ONE NATION... Under God...

INDIVISIBLE

with Liberty.... And Justice For ALL...


Reaffirming each concept....for my heart and mind to hear and contemplate thankfulness
for once again...

Because despite all the Anti American Liberals we have within our midst,
we still are blessed to live in the greatest nation on our planet...

and I am well aware as I say that pledge, of the many who have gone before us
and what they sacrificed in their time, so that we have what we have in OUR Time..

with prayer to pass it on, unaltered for those that will come after us...

I read a history book by Clement Wood, "A Complete History of The United States". Among other things, Wood talked about debtor rule.People voting that did not pay taxes. He had not much good to say about loose constructionism either.

Interesting that they are afraid of rural folks destroying the country... Last few times I have seen videos of folks rioting, burning, destroying things, IIRC it seemed to be occurring in the large cities...

AND, I am deplorable too. ;-{>8

The Founding Fathers weren't real keen on the indivisible stuff. They wrote:

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Seems to me that Americans these days are forced to remain together in a political system even though it's apparent that a huge cultural divide has occurred.

Some separation would be a very good thing at this point.

By the way, the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist.

It was penned well after the Civil War in 1892.

Francis Bellamy would have voted for Bernie Sanders.

http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/05/francis-bellamy-and-the-united-states-pledge-of-allegiance-2/

Excuse me while I go take a leak off the porch & ponder on which guns I'll shoot today.

Yep!

Word for word!

When America was first founded, only property owners could vote. This is because they had a vested interest in the country. Then when Andrew Jackson got in, an amendment was added allowing all free men to vote. Then after the War of Northern aggression, the free black men could vote. Then in 1920 women could vote. We have become more of a bureaucratic democracy than a true republic. Various bureaucratic agencies now make rules and regulations that are not even voted on. Such as OSHA, EPA, etc. One of the reasons for the westward expansion was to stake a claim on some land, have voting rights, and have self determination. Even Jefferson said he hoped America would remain a rural country, and not have large dirty cities like the Europeans had. It did stay that way until about 1900 with 80-90% of the people still living on farms. By 1940 40% of Americans were still on farms. Inheritance taxes destroyed the family farms.

Cities are a cesspool of poverty. Even New York has about 40%-45% of the people relying on some sort of government subsidy, thus become democrats. People went there years ago looking for jobs. With the factories moving overseas, no real jobs are available today in the cities. Most farming today is from large corporate farms, who took over inherited land because of high taxes. Sad. In the 1800's a family could produce all their food with excess to sell on 40 acres. Today a family can produce all their food on less than one acres IF they use greenhouses, and raise fish in tanks (tilipia mostly). They would have very little money. Probably not enough to even pay the taxes. So at least one person in the family would have to get a job.

We need to stop illegal immigration. Limit immigration to only those who speak english and have a skillset to keep them off government doles. Bring factories back to America to provide good paying middle class working jobs that have insurance. Simple solution. Income would rise, even lower skills because of no illegals, would rise because of the "shortage of labor". Even FDR would not "give" welfare money to people out of work. He said they would loose the work ethic. He made work with government jobs planting trees, building roads, building power dams, building bridges, etc. Can't give the poor fish, must teach them to fish.

I laughed for 15 minutes when I saw this. I think this guy lives over the hill from me!

Unless they're counting bonfires and cow tipping .

It is interesting that conservatives are viewed by the left as preferring authoritarianism. If anyone cared to dig deeper they'd discover the real truth. We don't want an authoritarian, but we sure as hell want someone with the stones to shake up the schidthole that is DC.

https://youtu.be/TZBTyTWOZCM

Red Skelton's pledge of allegiance.