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Farm Duty
Delta Elite mostly. Colt Gold Cup Trophy .460 Rowland. Or Colt Special Combat Government .38 Super. Or any .45 I feel like carrying that day.

Urban (small town mostly).
Lightweight Commander, Browning Hi-Power or the Special Combat . Plus the truck gun which could be anything that day.


I can't point or hit anything with any of these outdated metal guns. But I'm trying to get better at my misses.

The majority of home invasion robberies (and robberies in general) are accomplished by ambush. If you're not familiar with the definition, I suppose they still print dictionaries. Also, you could Google it.

Does it work? Can you hit with it? If yes to those two questions; you're good to go!

I knew an old Captain at the Sheriff's Department that used to carry a Colt Sheriff's model Peacemaker as an off duty weapon. He told me he carried it mostly to piss off his boss (Sheriff was a drunk, and an arsehole). But I'm here to tell you... You just don't want to make waves with that man while he has access to ANY firearm. He could hit a man sized target 5 for 5 at 100 yards with that Sheriff's model, and could put 5 on target at shorter range in a very short period of time.

He also carried a Renaissance Hi Power when he wasn't feeling the need to piss his boss off.

I'm thinking the little 45 cal. 185 XTP may be a real sleeper as far as SD bullets go, bet it's a tough customer with that smaller hp opening, it may really like the extra speed ;]

LOL, that Springer sounds nice, especially after the Wilson spit shine.

, that will get it all done and then some Gibby ;]

On any given day I carry exactly what I wanna.

The clueful may assume that I can use and hit with what I carry...

I understand what an ambush is, and even an anti ambush. I'm still picturing you sneaking up on your car...

The Instructors that gave the concealed carry class I took were generally intelligent and logical guys. They did, however insist that anyone who carries concealed immediately inform law enforcement whenever they drew their carry weapon. Town guys, one and all...

I drew my carry weapon 2wice this past weekend. Got my first 9mm possum and my first 9mm squirl...
A bit proud of the squirrel shot. He was running full tilt on the bank of a spring ditch...

I'm liking the p320 compact...

That would get you arrested in Ohio. Concealed pistol permit rules do not allow for ANY hunting purpose. Only exception is in self defense.

Damn, a little touchy up that way, I saw a doe deer with a broken back hung up in the fence at the power plant up in Shady Point, turned on my flashers, got out and shot her in the head with my 45 ACP, got back in my truck, called 1411 for info, called the power plant guard shack and told em what I did, they said good, we'll take care of it, heard later someone got her and took her to a butcher, all good, couldn't leave her laying there bawling like that.

I am having trouble with the 230gr at 1300fps with any .45 Hollow point in the Rowland. They just aren't built for that speed.

Sheet, I bet so, you need hardcast flat nosed!

I dunno about everywhere, but Illinois has always allowed a coat, jacket or shirt tail to cover a pistol carried while hunting. The exception is deer hunting where only deer legal firearms may be carried.

I'm not sure that concealed carry laws apply on private property anywhere.

I’m useing XTP’s, but they change overtime so who knows if they’ll work as well with the next batch. Of course the Rowland is even faster than the Super.

Gibby may want to opt for a 185 gr Barnes, with the petals blown back near flat he'll still have a penetrating solid of around .475 dia.

I googled around a bit and believe you can find load data for the 250 grain XTP in the Rowland at roughly 1050 fps or maybe a shade faster. While I haven't used that bullet in the Rowland, I do load it in 45 Colt and it works pretty well at that general velocity range,

The 250gr XTP is good and the 240gr magnum XTP can be made to work. It is the .452 in that thick Rowland case that poses a problem. I have not tried sizing a jacketed bullet yet. The new XTP's for the .460 S&W same deal, (.452). The heavy .452 bullets gets in to the internal taper of the case. I have gone to using hard cast and HAP bullets. The 230 Hornady FMJ Match Flat nose works well and is very accurate.

I did try the 185gr XTP in the Rowland. Can't remember without my notes what load and what velocity. It was high. In the mud bank I always use to test bullets, I shot several. All went close to an inch and broke up some. They still would work at longer ranges on animals no bigger than deer I think. The 225gr hard cast works well on the hogs.

a few times in the past i've used the Hornady 250 gr XTP in .45 ACP, just to see how it would perform. (have also done so with the 250 gr Nosler in .45 ACP, firing those in a HK USP).

the Hornady XTP .452 diameter bullet can cause issues in .45 ACP, as it reaches farther down into the case where the taper of the case wall thickens, creating a bulge, and subsequently, it may not feed at times. therefore, i abandoned that bullet for usage in the auto .45's, and only use it in .45 Long Colt, and also in practice loads in the .454 Casull.

the Speer 260 gr HP in .451 diameter is one of the pills i just began using in the .45 super, and can get velocities of 1025--1050 fps. they bill it as a hollow point, but in my mind, it is nearly a soft point, as the slightly conical indentation in the nose is almost nil. they also bill it as a "Plinker" bullet, but it appears to me to be an electro-plated bullet, much like the gold dot, and might be tougher than the title indicates--can't say yet as i've not tested and recovered any of these pills at this time...