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Rimfire okay.
Centerfire, no thanks. You can buy quality used rifles at a similar price everyday of the week. I've got lots of nice high end quality rifles. I wanted a beater for the Truck or the UTV at the Ranch. The Ruger American fills that niche perfectly for me. If it gets scratched or beat up, I won't give a schitt. YMMV.
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I have a predator in 22-250 and I can't get anything to shoot good. I have tried factory ammo, reloads, 40 grainers up to 64 grainers and nothing is under an inch at 100. The best thing that I have found is 50 grain Nosler CT Ballistic Tip with H380. Not sure if the barrel is the issue or twist rate, any suggestions. I have shot it about 100 times.
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Pappy 348 - " Might be the last rifle I buy, actually, as I think all the holes are filled (assuming I don't dream up any more holes🤔)." Have to agree with you. Like looking at a favorite wool
sweater...before long "HOLES" just start appearing. Minds starts wandering and muttering "just one more to cover this or that". Homesteader
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Rimfire okay.
Centerfire, no thanks. You can buy quality used rifles at a similar price everyday of the week. Almost every gun show I go to has used Savage rifles for sale. Picked up an FXP3 in .243 with the intent to rebarrel to 6.5. Shot the donor and that was the end of that. Much as I would like to like the American, my experience with an early model was less than pleasing. Dad bought it and gave it to me. Probably shot 7 different types of factory ammo through it and none grouped acceptably. Sold the rifle after Dad passed. I'll stick with the cheap used Savage (non-Axis) rifles.
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
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Young fella was showing me his RAR 243 compact this evening and all I could think was "damn, make this thing a 6.5 CM and put it in a regular stock and I might have to have one". Little rascal was slinging 100 NPT's to boot.
Paging Shortactionsmoker........paging Shortactionsmoker.......
Could be a neat little sleeper rig.
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Young fella was showing me his RAR 243 compact this evening and all I could think was "damn, make this thing a 6.5 CM and put it in a regular stock and I might have to have one". Little rascal was slinging 100 NPT's to boot.
Paging Shortactionsmoker........paging Shortactionsmoker.......
Could be a neat little sleeper rig. Hell, I am still waiting on Ruger to chamber the stainless All-weather model in the 6.5 Creedmoor, which to my mind is a no brainer and should have been done years ago. To date that chambering has only been available in the Predator model.
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Chlinstructor....My Predator in 6.5 loves Federal "Non-Typical ammo. Cheap stuff but 1/2 moa at 100. Killed a big doe with it this year.
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I have two, and have had no issues. You can of course, buy a more expensive rifle. That more expensive rifle may, or may not be as accurate as the Ruger American. yeah you can Sam.. they are called Howas and they are available at a decent price from Whittaker Guns in Kentucky...
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I keep looking at the RF Predator and the new Target. You know how it is: get a new scope and that means the old one needs a " ride". I'm really hoping they bring those two out in SS eventually, especially the Target. I recently got one, down at Whittaker's, it's a .22 WMR, in stainless. It's not horrible, but not spectacular, either. It's a hunting tool, not a target rifle, and I have to keep reminding myself of that when I'm thinking about crapcanning the WMR. This is my second WMR, and while I'm trying to like it, it's not making me swoon, not even close. It's configured like the Predator, except it's in stainless. I have a blued Predator, too, in .22LR, it shoots pretty well, and I'm pleased with it. I wish I was as pleased with the WMR, but I'm still trying to be fair and give it a chance. It's only made three trips to the range, and I'm still working at finding the best ammo for it. BOTH rifles, and according to rimfirecentral, a lot of others, are having some extraction issues. You might want to wait a bit and see if Ruger can manage a fix for this. I know it's happening with at least three rifles (a buddy has two, one in .17HMR) and one of his two is experiencing the same extraction issues I am having. Reshaping the extractor hook seems to be a fix worth doing. Just a fair warning.
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I'd like a 22 Mag compact for my one and only Ruger American.
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They’re ok, but kinda junky. There some things a person shouldn't have to do: Eat broccoli Drive a Subaru Hunt with a Ruger American After owning one I think Shrapnel is right. I bought one for shooting prarie dogs this summer when I first moved to Montana. I didnt want to invest alot of money into a rig given I didnt know what sort of access I would have and if I would like it. It filled the bill given that, but i just replaced it with a CZ 527.
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They’re ok, but kinda junky. There some things a person shouldn't have to do: Eat broccoli Drive a Subaru Hunt with a Ruger American After owning one I think Shrapnel is right. I bought one for shooting prarie dogs this summer when I first moved to Montana. I didnt want to invest alot of money into a rig given I didnt know what sort of access I would have and if I would like it. It filled the bill given that, but i just replaced it with a CZ 527. while I agree with Shrap...on the Ruger American... one of the coolest individual rifles I have seen in quite a while was a CZ in 204, when I was in New Mexico Last Summer.. I went and spent a couple of days with Mark Shubert, one of our campfire members who resides up in Las Vegas NM....we spent a day driving around some of his property that he was showing me, in his Chevy that he uses for his Ranch Truck... Leaning against the seat was a CZ in 204... sporter model, 3 x 9 Leupold on top... being in a ranch truck, this puppy was beat to crap on the outside... stock, all scratched up, bluing all scuffed up on the barrel... Looked as if she had been rode hard and put away wet.... But that rifle shows the beauty in a working rifle, that is one the job 7 days a week, 365 days a year....and when called upon it does the same quality of job, it did the day it found a home leaning against the front seat on Mark's Truck.... I thought quite a bit about what I consider in the beauty of that rifle... something a plastic stock rifle just wouldn't have the same appeal... but would probably look the less as being a truck gun veteran...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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They would be great with a McMillan stock, Jewell trigger, Kreiger barrel, Schmidt & Bender scope, and chambered in 7mm WSM.
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They would be great with a McMillan stock, Jewell trigger, Kreiger barrel, Schmidt & Bender scope, and chambered in 7mm WSM. Building a marble mansion around a pigstye. 
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They would be great with a McMillan stock, Jewell trigger, Kreiger barrel, Schmidt & Bender scope, and chambered in 7mm WSM. Building a marble mansion around a pigstye. It was painful enough to put one of my beloved M8's on mine....
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Ruger(and everyone else),simply needs to default to an AICS footprint DBM,so all dots are connected. Magpul already Milk Jugs 'em,amongst others...so the fiscal burden is nil. Sad but true,that many OEM makers are in a hurry to go "proprietary" with mag designs/footprints,though the bar has long been set in commonality,yet overlooked.
No thang on a RAR,to toss the 'blade,re-spring,add an inclined rail,bask in their RPM and get more than a few thangs done. That being said,their Goat Fhuqked magazine is really an EPIC pile of fhuqking schit,much compromising feed/function,along with the twist/throat/COAL Hat Trick.
It's doubly funny,that they already source DBM footprinted mags,in more than a few offerings and yet go wayyyyyyyyyyy outta their road to fhuqk easy schit up.
Tikka is equally fhuqking hilarious,in their INCREDIBLE Dumbfhuqktitude.................
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I keep looking at the RF Predator and the new Target. You know how it is: get a new scope and that means the old one needs a " ride". I'm really hoping they bring those two out in SS eventually, especially the Target. I recently got one, down at Whittaker's, it's a .22 WMR, in stainless. It's not horrible, but not spectacular, either. It's a hunting tool, not a target rifle, and I have to keep reminding myself of that when I'm thinking about crapcanning the WMR. This is my second WMR, and while I'm trying to like it, it's not making me swoon, not even close. It's configured like the Predator, except it's in stainless. I have a blued Predator, too, in .22LR, it shoots pretty well, and I'm pleased with it. I wish I was as pleased with the WMR, but I'm still trying to be fair and give it a chance. It's only made three trips to the range, and I'm still working at finding the best ammo for it. BOTH rifles, and according to rimfirecentral, a lot of others, are having some extraction issues. You might want to wait a bit and see if Ruger can manage a fix for this. I know it's happening with at least three rifles (a buddy has two, one in .17HMR) and one of his two is experiencing the same extraction issues I am having. Reshaping the extractor hook seems to be a fix worth doing. Just a fair warning. I've seen that about the extraction. Wonder if it's the chambers, since that style of extractor's been in use for what, 100 years? Of course, it may just be crap accumulated in the grooves in the bolt. That's caused me trouble with 77/22s and my 581. I'd think the Hummers would run pretty clean, though. Not looking to buy anything, at least until I finish tweaking what I've got.
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Ruger(and everyone else),simply needs to default to an AICS footprint DBM,so all dots are connected. Magpul already Milk Jugs 'em,amongst others...so the fiscal burden is nil. Sad but true,that many OEM makers are in a hurry to go "proprietary" with mag designs/footprints,though the bar has long been set in commonality,yet overlooked.
No thang on a RAR,to toss the 'blade,re-spring,add an inclined rail,bask in their RPM and get more than a few thangs done. That being said,their Goat Fhuqked magazine is really an EPIC pile of fhuqking schit,much compromising feed/function,along with the twist/throat/COAL Hat Trick.
It's doubly funny,that they already source DBM footprinted mags,in more than a few offerings and yet go wayyyyyyyyyyy outta their road to fhuqk easy schit up.
Tikka is equally fhuqking hilarious,in their INCREDIBLE Dumbfhuqktitude.................
I actually could not agree more.
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Ruger(and everyone else),simply needs to default to an AICS footprint DBM,so all dots are connected. Magpul already Milk Jugs 'em,amongst others...so the fiscal burden is nil. Sad but true,that many OEM makers are in a hurry to go "proprietary" with mag designs/footprints,though the bar has long been set in commonality,yet overlooked.
No thang on a RAR,to toss the 'blade,re-spring,add an inclined rail,bask in their RPM and get more than a few thangs done. That being said,their Goat Fhuqked magazine is really an EPIC pile of fhuqking schit,much compromising feed/function,along with the twist/throat/COAL Hat Trick.
It's doubly funny,that they already source DBM footprinted mags,in more than a few offerings and yet go wayyyyyyyyyyy outta their road to fhuqk easy schit up.
Tikka is equally fhuqking hilarious,in their INCREDIBLE Dumbfhuqktitude.................
I actually could not agree more. The RAR magazines are a goat rodeo..
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I bought a Ruger American compact in .243 Win. I put a 35 yr old Leopold on it. I like the compact gun. It will serve me well going through the cattail marshes and mud swamps . It is light and compact . I noticed the trigger is a little raspy . It is not really accurate , but I dont care, my avr. shot is about 30 yds. It is light enough that I noticed it kicks more than my TC Venture compact in .243 Win. I would have been glad to spend more on a gun, but there is almost nothing out there.
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