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I really LIKE your signature & am a PROUD DENIZEN of "the basket of Deplorables".
yours, tex
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Wasn't there another long time owner of a bully breed dog who's dog turned on him that used to post on here? Canadian if I remember right.
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that pic says a lot for the breed and your training (About 10 days later, he was released by the doctors & into the custody of the National Police for trial. = Over 300 stitches were required to close his wounds to his "knife hand", lower right arm, face & neck. - I doubt if he ever used his right hand properly again..) Well hey, sometimes justice does prevail Here's a photo of my heelers in action, me out running them at heel behind my bike, this from about six years back. Sadly the smaller one recently expired. I paid $15 fer the smaller one, $150 for the bigger one but just anyone can walk up and pet 'em. Again being heelers they don't really like strangers, but these will patiently endure the attention. All I really need my dogs to do is behave, heel, sit, down, and stay, come right away when they are called (by name or with a quiet hiss) and heel like glue when I snap my fingers, on a bike or on foot. I hardly ever have them on a leash, I got not use for a dog that NEEDS a leash (tho I'd put PPD's in a whole diff'rent category).
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My dad has a dog like that. She's a tiny little Maltese, but will suddenly attack people in response to certain trigger situations, and I mean real bites and holding on while shaking the hold out for maximum damage. This even to family members. She bit my mom a few times when she was alive, but they both loved her, and my dad still does, so she gets a pass, even though she's attacked untold dozens of people, including family members. This is mainly because the degree of harm she's capable of is minimal, and can be fixed with soap and water, iodine, and a band-aid or two.
JFC! That owner should be in jail and the dog euthanized. LOL, here's the monster you're having fits over. Worst case scenario would be a small scratch, treated with antiseptic and a band-aid. More typically, the bite is on the cuff of the pants. The reason so many little "ankle biters" are allowed to continue living is that the amount of actual harm they're capable of is minimal, and the owner raised them from tiny pups, so it would be like putting a child down. How they get that way is mainly due to not feeling comfortable with harsh corrections on such tiny dogs while they're pups. We're talking a two or three pound little puppy when the behavior starts. The dog in the picture is full grown, and hardly more than six or seven pounds. I honestly don’t GAS how big the dog or how small the injury. It seems you missed the point. It’s a biting dog. (hint) Yeah, but that's you. I'm explaining why, in the real world out there, so few people actually put down tiny dogs that bite. It's why tiny dogs are so often called "ankle biters." Yeah, and I'll explain real world for you. The dog needs dead and the owner and you need a good swift kick in the azz.
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NOT very well trained was your dog?? (Face facts, pit bulls are NO more dangerous than any other large/powerful dog. = It's an URBAN MYTH & no more than that. - A St Bernard is POTENTIALLY a truly DANGEROUS animal because of their SIZE/strength, if they are raised that way)
The TRUTH is that NONE of the traditional "pit-fighting breeds" are NATURALLY dangerous to people, as otherwise those "fighting dogs" would be too dangerous for the "pit fighter"/handler or owner to handle. - It takes considerable "training" to make any otherwise healthy dog "mean" or "vicious" and that "human aggressiveness" is INTENDED by their owners in 99% of cases. = The "trash" WANTS a BAD DOG to protect their criminal lifestyle in many cases. (Are there DANGEROUS pit bulls out there?? - You bet there are & their "human aggressiveness" is a result of bad discipline/training OR intention.)
yours, tex. 1) There's a bunch of animals that can be handled though dangerous (think pet cobras, Charolais bulls) and a bunch more that can be relatively docile towards their handler and dangerous towards anyone else (think pet grizzly bears or tigers). So saying that just because somewhere, some dog is nice is proof that they are all nice is b.s. 2) There is a reason they don't use goldendoodles to dog fight or guard property. There's a reason certain species are used for certain tasks that may require violence. You and everyone else reading this thread knows which is which. I've raised and trained far too many bird dogs to ignore genetic coding. When you watch a pup point a bird at 6 weeks old, it speaks volumes for what we can and have programmed into dog breeds. Only relatively recently in the history of the dog/human relationship did large amounts of the population decide to own dogs for pleasure. With that came all sorts of working breeds suddenly bred and bought with no regard for their genes. In a way, you can't really blame a pit for being a pit.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I've personally kllled 3 pitbulls that went after me or my dog over the years and wont hesitate to kill everyone that threatens me. Look at Any crime ridden schithole in the US and you'll some useless thug/dbag playah walking( being dragged) by a pit bull in the ghetto with a wife beater, gold chains and diamond earrings and no gainful employment and a 4th grade education living on welfare. For some reason these losers are attracted to the breed. A pitbull is like $3000 rims on a 1995 camry- or a tick with lyme disease -completely worthless How many dog breeds will try and kill a horse? None -and all the more reason to exterminate the breed
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Wasn't there another long time owner of a bully breed dog who's dog turned on him that used to post on here? Canadian if I remember right. Now that you mention it I remember BcBrian was the guy. I believe he took the dog out into the back 40 and took care of it.
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Yep that's the name (I'm pretty sure anyway) thanks.
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No problem, I had totally forgotten about that till you mentioned it.
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las,
IF you "buy into" pack theory, the mate of the Alpha (the Alpha's mate is usually the highest status female) & her progeny will be "deferred to" and "defended to the death" by every other member of the pack.
For that reason, I would NOT have wanted to be the thug, who in my possible absence, decided that it would be OK to assault/injure my late wife or my daughter. = That would have been a BAD day for HIM. (VK or my daughter couldn't work my PPD, as they didn't know her cues but neither would she idly sit & watch them being abused/threatened, as they were, in her eyes, MINE & she was well aware of that fact.)
yours, tex
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I am on the Lab and Golden retreiver band wagon. They are just decoy’s really.
It has been more difficult to train my family how to train the dog, than to train the dog. Even with a Golden they display alpha behavior. They just require a little less stick...
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stxhunter,
The TRUTH is that NONE of the traditional "pit-fighting breeds" are NATURALLY dangerous to people, as otherwise those "fighting dogs" would be too dangerous for the "pit fighter"/handler or owner to handle. - . Poppycock. The traditional fighting breeds did sometimes show human aggression. The were put down when they did. It's not like when they weren't in the pit they were chilling on the sofa with mom and junior either. They were handled by people who knew how to handle them. The fighting breeds need strong handlers, but that's not a guarantee. Strong handlers/owners sometimes get their asses tore up or their dogs tear someone or some other dog up. When it happens that "fight til the end coding" comes out and the results are horrific. You have to dig deep to find stories of non-fighting breeds tearing their owners into 60 pieces, even when they are trained to be mean. You mentioned the St. Bernard. Ponder this for a moment. With the size and strength of a St Bernard (or any other large, strong breed) why aren't they chosen in the place of the larger fighting breeds to train to be nasty?
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[i]Pit Bull Attacks Woman Same Day as Adopted Out
Before arriving at Forever Home, Blue had been on death row at the New York City municipal shelter for "biting people." And this is were the problem started, NYCMS should never have let that dog go, It should have been put down within 24hrs of arrival unless there was a court case involving the dog. If they would have done the proper thing the old gal would still be around. I missed that. Good point.
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Wasn't there another long time owner of a bully breed dog who's dog turned on him that used to post on here? Canadian if I remember right. Yeah, that was an America Bulldog. Had his Yorkie turned on him, we wouldn't have heard about it.
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..and.. that pic says a lot for the breed and your training Hey thanks guys. Of course they say 80% of the dog you're getting is already visible in the puppy, to that end you have to pick 'em carefully. As pointed out on this thread not all dogs are equal. I am exceedingly fortunate in that there are still a lot of working ranches in Texas, so it ain't all that hard to find a good working heeler "parents on site", for not a whole lot of money. No papers of course but I could GAS about that. See, among regular folk, heelers are properly labelled a "type" rather than a "breed" just like Jack Russels used to be when I was a kid before so many got ruined by popularity. "Heelers" vary in size and color but it doesn't matter, the most important part of a dog is the grey matter that lies between its ears, because of their ancestry my dogs from the beginning were driven by a desire to work with their owner. It matters too that they are all females hence even less inclined to question my authority or be inappropriately aggressive to dogs and strangers. I'm a schoolteacher, I timed it to buy 'em in May, right before I was off until August, so for more'n two months I could bring the pup with me everywhere, every day, all day long. Also I spaced 'em at least two years apart, so the new pup could learn much by copying the older one as they do. I couldn't enter any of 'em in obedience trials, they don't know any tricks, but they are pleasant companions and no trouble to bring places. All I have time for really.
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i reached down to pet him and he attacked, i got 68 stitches in my fingers and 4 pins.i grabbed his bottom jaw, pinned and choked him out. Wow !!!!!!!
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i reached down to pet him and he attacked, i got 68 stitches in my fingers and 4 pins.i grabbed his bottom jaw, pinned and choked him out. Do you have loss of mobility from the dog bite Roger ? Permanent damage ?
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Wasn't there another long time owner of a bully breed dog who's dog turned on him that used to post on here? Canadian if I remember right. There are actually 2 members on here, one has admitted his mistakes and took ownership.
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