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Our plotts stand up to bears pretty well, our dogs are proven in the courage department without having a heritage of killing and mauling their owners,, there is a huge difference between courage and instability.

Just read a report, apparently the pit's were feeding on the young gal!

Pposey makes a good point, we have breeds that are courageous and protective without being psycho.

Years ago I worked in a shop and the owner had a very large male Rottweiler, I am a dog lover so I gave this dog a lot of attention in the course of my work day.
I thought we were buds? yet one day He attacked me , he was in the back of a truck in the service bay and I was walking past, luckily I was able to get away and avoid serious injury, he had a crazy look in his eyes and was in a frenzy. If it was my dog I would have killed him.

I do not trust pit bull's, rottweiler's etc.... I consider them dangerous.

Were they the kind of owners who knew how to handle their dogs prior to the incident?

I remember that. Didn't he try and bite your tit off prior to that too?

Those dogs were neglected. This is from the article that JjoeBob linked above:





I do believe that she would still be alive if it were any other breed, but she lost the bond she should have had with her dogs when she left them with her dad and they were left out in the cold in a pen and not cared for properly.

yes can't bend left index finger all the way and its pretty crooked and both index fingers are still numb.

yes three months before.

I assume by that that you mean to imply that boar dogs (and I’m not talking about hounds), bulldogs, and guard dogs are unstable by breed. This is absurd. Even if we only looked at Pitbulls, only the tiniest percent of them ever, in their whole lives, showed inappropriate aggression towards a human being.

My dogs were left entirely alone in the back yard for more than two months when I went to the UK with a bicycle in the summer of 2016. All the caretaker did was feed 'em and check their water at least every other day (less care than I had been given to understand would occur). All of them lost weight but all were healthy, even the cat.

Dogs live in the "right now", when I got back we simply picked up our daily routine as if I had never left.

There's lots of explanations possible as to why them two dogs suddenly killed and ate that poor girl, how both of them were uncut males, how both of them were from a breed originally bred to kill and maul . Suffice to say very few dogs would have done what they did.

Wait, they killed her because she didn’t maintain a bond? What was she, a lion tamer or a dog owner?

Yep, she was Kimba,,,the queen of the pride, she slept at the doorway of the cave,,,and all adored and respected her, then 1 day she didn't maintain her bond with the pride...so they killed and ate her.

It's totally normal man.

Too bad she wasn’t able to read this thread, what with all the dog whisperers and all.

That bond is so important with dogs. I read all the time about the broken bond induced human consumption by Labs, Goldens, Border Collies, Poodles and such. It was just a matter of time before it happened with a pit.

Have you ever read a book called "The Art of Racing in The Rain?"

Don't get confused,, and never assume

Do 2 searches to humor me,,

1- Pit bull attacks person,,, you will get About 1,440,000 results
2- Bear Hound attacks person,,, you will get about 0 results

Heck keep going if you want,,

Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada
September 1982 to December 31, 2014

from

https://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2014.pdf


Breed Attacks


Pit bull 3397
Pit bull/Akita mix 4
Pit bull/Australian shepherd 2
Pit bull boxer mix 35
Pit bull/chow mix 11
Pit bull/Doberman mix 1
Pit bull/Doberman/GSD/Lab 2
Pit bull/Great Dane 1
Pit bull/Great Dane/Dalmatian 1
Pit bull/GSD mix 15
Pit bull/Lab mix 43
Pit/Rhodesian ridgeback mix 2
Pit bull/Rott. mix 56
Pit bull/Sharpei mix 2
Pit bull/Sheltie mix 7
Pit bull/Weimaraner mix 1
Pit bull/wolf hybrid 1
Pit mix unknown 22

all pit and pit mixes results in 307 Fatalities


Plott hound 10 Attacks with NO fatalities



Pit bulls fight to the death better than any other breed, that's all they do better. Justify that ability anyway you like but that is all you are doing, Justifying that the risk is worth it.

Here's the standard pit bull apologist response to that. Dogbite.org is an anti Pit organization. They get their data from the CDC. The CDC gets their info from reports like this one in the OP. The report in the OP mistakenly identified the dogs as pit bulls. APBT and Staffordshires (real pit bulls) don't get anywhere close to the size of the dogs that ate this pretty young lady. Many of the CDC reports are off.

Here's my rebuttal. Even if you dismiss 75% of the reports as inaccurate, pits are still over-represented in the attacks. I don't single pits out though, rather I look at the fighting breeds as a group and the dogs that ate the pretty young girl were of fighting lineage. You can Google "fighting dog breeds" to get an idea of what I am talking about, although for the sake of this discussion we can kinda rule out boston terriers and the like on account of their small size. I will also say that there have been a lot of designer breeds come out lately that are mixes of some of the fighting breeds and we need to add them to the discussion.

WITHOUT QUESTION, fighting breeds, fighting breed mixes and designer fighters are grossly over-represented in the attack numbers. It's all but guaranteed when we read one of these reports we are going to learn that the dog is of fighting lineage. It's not like when someone reports a dog attack they are confusing labs, poodles, pointers, and Aussies for pits or pit mixes.

Apples and oranges, first of all, because of what a minuscule number of bear dogs there are vs the number of Pitbulls. Then consider that even Pit mixes are classified in statistics as "Pitbulls," yet this is not the case for any other breed. Then consider the total number of "Pitbulls" in the US vs the total number of Pitbull bites. As to the latter comparison, it demonstrates that the overwhelming majority of Pitbulls are not problematic. Then consider that the problematic Pitbulls are almost always maintained as livestock rather than as house companions, and most of those that are problematic are owned by criminals. Any breed that's wildly popular among criminals is going to be more likely to cause problems in society than breeds that are not. Before they were adopted as the semi-official criminal's dog (right around 1980), you never heard of a Pitbull attacking anyone. If you even came across anyone who'd heard of the breed, the typical response would have been, "Oh yeah, that dog on the Little Rascals."

?? I googled it, about a dog that worked to keep his owner's family together?

All sorts of jokes spring to mind but out of respect for the deceased young woman I'll refrain.

Pits are great dogs and a pleasure to have around. Right up to the point that they aren't! Unfortunately people don't know when that is until it's too late.

Surely you said this in jest?