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18k shots
I don’t think I have shot that much my whole life. Congrats
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If a guy is use to a M12, M870... one of those 760/7600's is real fast for a follow up shot. I had one in a .257 Roberts because I hadn't seen too many of those. The guys with the pump '06's said that they recoiled more than they liked, but that Roberts was sure a pussy cat. I've read that the Remington pumps are very accurate and mine was no exception, but the slide rattled more than I liked so I sold it. If that receiver is built like the semi-auto 742 and I think that it is, that breech bolt works on those guide rails like a milling machine and when they are worn, the rifle is disposable. 18,000 rounds is quite a testimonial because Remington marketed those rifles to the several shot a year deer hunter. The 760 and 742 series "receivers" are more on the order of "bolt carriers", as the bolt locks into a barrel extension, not into the "receiver". Since a human can't cycle the pump action 760 series as fast or with the violent slamming of the 740/742 series, I don't think that it would be possible to damage the guide rails. Ahlman's in Morristown, MN, offers a service to rebuild 740/742 series rifles from gas operated semi-automatics into pump action 742/760 hybrids. The guide rails in the 742 series receivers aren't very robust and they don't wear out so much as they get damaged, dented and/or chipped, when the bolt jumps the rails. Once the guide rails are damaged, the rifle will seldom operate in a consistently reliable manner ever again.
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I have one of the stepped receiver 760's. What was the point? I have not seen many, and always wondered about it.
Mine was bought only because it was cheap. Never liked pumps, or 30-06. Once I had it, I felt I should use it, just to try and understand the hype. Dam thing is around moa for three shot groups, with a load chosen for leftover bullets, because I had a dipper that worked with 4831, and half fast effort loading.
Has put several deer in the freezer. A good hunting gun.
Still don't like pumps. Noisy, bad o-ring, I know. Heavy
But, I now understand they are much better than I ever thought.
The stepped receivers were only offered on the 760 BDLs that came with the basket-weave style "checkering" and were made from 1965/66 thru 1980(?) in 270, 308, and 30-06. I like that variation because it has the raised cheekpiece that I prefer.
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Pappy I bought a model 6 in 1980. it was a little more expensive because of the stock and it was a real good shooter. I think I paid around 279 for it. A 'minor' correction. The Model Six was introduced in 1981. I still have the Remington 'catalog' of 1981 introducing them. No biggie. I have pix in photoPUKIT but I can't post them. Jerry
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18,000 rounds = impressive!!! How well did it shoot when you sent it back for a re-barrel? It was grouping around 3.5" to 4" and in pretty sorry shape when I sent it back (when I got it, it would hold an inch to 1.5" with GI LC match) . The buttstock was cracked in 3 places and the trigger group was broken (the hammer would follow down about 50% of the time). I REALLY used this rifle, though, mostly shooting 5-shot rapid-fire groups at 200 yds from the sit. It would easily group into the 10 ring on a 200 yd rapid fire target when new. I had a Lyman All-American 4X on it then. Before I sent it in to Rem I asked about a rebarrel price (I was just a poor E-5 paratrooper with only one rifle). Rem responded by inquiring about what was wrong, guessing maybe it was not grouping. Their response to my telling them about the number of rounds fired was "please send it in". Probably 25% of the rifling was gone, from the chamber forward. No pitting, just smooth. It was literally getting shot 4-5 days a week, mostly in rapid fire strings. I usually didn't bother to clean it but once a week (probably after about 200 rds), so it wasn't treated like a bench-rest rifle. Remington said they loved my "torture test" and rebuilt my 7600 for free. The new barrel is very accurate (no more rapid fire strings) and the buttstock they put on is a nice piece of lumber. I also sent the Lyman 4X back; Lyman wanted the scope, so they sent me a brand-new All American. I like the Zeiss 4X I just put on it. My 7600 is now relegated to mellow bench sessions (I let the barrel cool between shots) and easy hunting trips. It's been thru hell and back and is enjoying its 2nd life as an occasional hunting rifle. Once in awhile I'll still let loose with a five-shot string at a metal gong at 200 yrds though, just for old-times sake. I'll be riding into my twilight years with this Remington next to me. Bob
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RGK,
My GUESS is that Remington was REALLY impressed with the "torture test" that you put the 760 through.
Fwiw, I once sent a Remington Nylon66 in with a letter of explanation that the rifle was "kicked into a campfire by a drunk at our lease" (NOT what you would call "fair wear & tear" by any means) & asking them to repair the .22 rifle if they could & to send me a bill. About 2 weeks later, I received an identical but NEW rifle, with note that apologized for NOT repairing the rifle AND an invoice marked "NO CHARGE". (And anyone wonders why I like Remington & own about a dozen of their firearms??)
yours, tex
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My Dad had a 1960 Vintage 760 in 30-06. I was @ 10 y o so it was ingrained in me.
I've owned 2 , 760s. 1 in 270 Win, the other was a 35 Rem I had re chambered to 35 Whelen (wish I'd kept it ! ! )
All the rest of my pumps were/are Model Sixes. I let a good shooting 06 get away from me - dumb dumb 1 have 2 in 270 Win / 1 of which my Son is inheriting. I have 1 in 6mm Rem I REPLACED the 30-06 a couple yrs ago. Killed deer w/it last yr.
I never owned a 7600.
The Model Six has all the features I like/prefer.
Larger Lugs on bolt. Cone shaped fore end. Cut line checkering. Small dia. pistol grip Cartridge head embedded in receiver.
The M Six is the Holy Grail of the pumps TO ME.
Jerry
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Looks great! Love the re-cut checkering.
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The one and only 7600, I've owned, a 30/06, must have been a rare lemon. Bought it brand new in box back in the mid-'80s. For some reason it shot so far to one side that I wound up having to move both front and rear sights almost as far as they would go to get it shoot to POA. Also, the butt stock was too narrow in width making recoil feel like a sharp karate chop. Shooting factory 180 gr. it was the hardest felt recoil of any rifle I can recall ever shooting, before or since. Have never regretted getting rid of it. Did manage to kill one deer with it first, though.
As always, YMMV.
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joken2,
The 7600, imo, is a FAR poorer quality rifle than the Model 760 that it replaced. = Find yourself a 760 that was made in the 1950s or early 1960s & you'll likely become a 760 "addict", too.
My newest 760 is a 1969 model that JES completely remodeled for me into a 9.3x62mm dangerous game rifle. - It's a RARE GEM of a hunting rifle.
yours, tex
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joken2,
The 7600, imo, is a FAR poorer quality rifle than the Model 760 that it replaced. = Find yourself a 760 that was made in the 1950s or early n1960s & you'll likely become a 760 "addict", too.
My newest 760 is a 1969 model that JES completely remodeled for me. yours, tex That's your opinion and it is FAR different than mine. WHY did JES remodel your 760 ? ? Jerry
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jwall,
YES, it is my opinion. - "Your mileage may vary".
As my grandfather used to say, "Differing opinions is what causes horse-races."
JES remodeled my 1969 760 because I desired a dangerous game rifle AND I didn't need yet another .30-06, so I had it remodeled into a 9.3x62mm.
I'm, likely in the next 90 days, going to send Jessie yet another long-action 760 to remodel into a .401 Brown-Whelen Improved.
yours, tex
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Just sent off a 7600 to JES this week (the cause of the 'shipping with UPS' thread) to become a 338 Fed. He's done many Rems and Savages for me.
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The only 760 that I ever had was a .223 that shot bug holes with factory ammo. Problem was that it was kind of beat up, not nice enough so I sold it. I sure regret doing that.
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Very nice, 18,000 rounds fired is crazy!
My Dad has used a 760 he bought in 1972. He shoots left handed and did the safety switch on his too. Used it to shoot two deer this last season at 79 years old.
I had a 30-06 rebored to 338-06 that he carried on a couple of elk hunts, but sold it when he could no longer handle the recoil. When he stated that his 270 was starting to kick too much, and thought he should buy a 7600 in 243. I just loaded up some milder rounds for him to use.
Love the idea of Remington pumps, but I am simply bolt action trash.
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BlackFrog,
The next rifle that's headed out to Jessie is yet another .30-06, for which I paid 100 bucks. - It was manufactured in 1965.
yours, tex
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joken2,
The 7600, imo, is a FAR poorer quality rifle than the Model 760 that it replaced. = Find yourself a 760 that was made in the 1950s or early 1960s & you'll likely become a 760 "addict", too.
My newest 760 is a 1969 model that JES completely remodeled for me into a 9.3x62mm dangerous game rifle. - It's a RARE GEM of a hunting rifle.
yours, tex Never noticed and I owned both. Some guys just naturally believe whatever they like is superior to anything else.
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jwall,
YES, it is my opinion. - "Your mileage may vary".
As my grandfather used to say, "Differing opinions is what causes horse-races."
JES remodeled my 1969 760 because I desired a dangerous game rifle AND I didn't need yet another .30-06, so I had it remodeled into a 9.3x62mm.
I'm, likely in the next 90 days, going to send Jessie yet another long-action 760 to remodel into a .401 Brown-Whelen Improved.
yours, tex Could tell us more about your 9.3x62 760 conversion? I currently find myself with 6 Remington pump guns in 30-06, 5 760s and a 7600, and would be interested in having JES convert one of them to 9.3x62. I have 2 questions, but you probably have several answers. My 2 questions are: 1. Did you have to modify the magazine to feed the 9.3x62 smoothly? 2. Does magazine length cause any COAL problems with the 286 grain bullets that are common/popular for use in the 9.3x62?
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jwall, I'm, likely in the next 90 days, going to send Jessie yet [/b]another long-action 760 [b]to remodel into a .401 Brown-Whelen Improved.
yours, tex ummm, can you explain that, "long action 760" ? ALL of the pumps have the SAME length action bars and the pump cycle is the SAME as well. 243---30-06 NO difference. Not my opinion. Jerry
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Never noticed and I owned both. Some guys just naturally believe whatever they like is superior to anything else.
Yep, I think you got it Mike ! Jerry
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