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Pretty simple question, have a bunch of brass and want to fireform them without having to reloading expensive bullets and full powder charge. Anyone have a recipe to load rice or "other" over a low charge to blow the cases out? Would a FF load for a Win Mag be safe in your experienced opinions? Thanks everyone!
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I will try to find the info, but cream of wheat and pistol powders and primers were the go to method of old. miles
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Here is a link to a discussion of this. miles fireforming
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Read it! I was wrong, wasn't rice, was Cream of Wheat lol. I'll have to research if Red Dot will work. That'd be ideal since I have to get some for my 12ga 1-1/8oz Dove reloads... Any recipe I figure out I'll post. Should be good for any 300 H&H based brass...
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Red dot will work. That is what I used to fire form 7mm08 improved way back. I can't seem to find my info right now. I did find that using bullseye, you start with a load 10% of a full case. I remember that I could not find bullseye and ended up with Red Dot. Used the rest of it after I got a .38 special and reloaded lead bullets. miles
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Cartridge : .300 Weath. Mag.
Bullet : .308, 110, Hornady FMJ 3017
Useable Case Capaci: 91.510 grain H2O = 5.942 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.100 inch = 78.74 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant BULLSEYE
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 50 28.00 2843 1974 46048 5129 100.0 1.134
-18.0 51 28.70 2878 2024 47730 5239 100.0 1.115
-16.0 53 29.40 2913 2073 49436 5349 100.0 1.098
-14.0 54 30.10 2948 2123 51165 5458 100.0 1.081
-12.0 55 30.80 2982 2172 52918 5566 100.0 1.064
-10.0 56 31.50 3016 2222 54694 5674 100.0 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
-08.0 58 32.20 3049 2271 56495 5781 100.0 1.034 ! Near Maximum !
-06.0 59 32.90 3082 2321 58320 5887 100.0 1.019 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 60 33.60 3115 2370 60170 5993 100.0 1.005 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 61 34.30 3147 2419 62045 6098 100.0 0.992 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 63 35.00 3179 2469 63946 6202 100.0 0.979 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 64 35.70 3211 2518 65872 6305 100.0 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 65 36.40 3242 2567 67825 6408 100.0 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 66 37.10 3273 2616 69804 6510 100.0 0.943 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 68 37.80 3304 2666 71810 6612 100.0 0.931 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 69 38.50 3334 2715 73843 6713 100.0 0.920 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 63 35.00 3185 2478 65984 6190 100.0 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 63 35.00 3171 2456 61393 6218 100.0 0.995 ! Near Maximum !
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