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I only read the first page, so forgive me if this is already been covered. The obvious answer is: 257 Roberts

ETA: I see you bought a 25-06. You'll love the Quarter bore. That was my first rifle, and
it would really shine at long distance. After that I went to a 7 mag because I started hunting elk. Bad knees keeps me out of the mountains plus I live east of the Mississippi River, so no need for the 7 mag. I now shoot a HusqaVarna in the 257 Roberts.

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Originally Posted by keith_dunlap
I only read the first page, so forgive me if this is already been covered. The obvious answer is: 257 Roberts. ... Bad knees keeps me out of the mountains plus I live east of the Mississippi River, so no need for the 7 mag. I now shoot a HusqaVarna in the 257 Roberts.


I doubt there is anything east of the Mississippi River that can't be taken with the Roberts. As most of the posters have mentioned, it's almost always about bullets now...and shot placement, as it's always been.


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I have killed lots of deer with both the .308, and the .260. I really liked the performance of both. My .260 does real well with Hornady 129 Interlocks at 3010 fps. That being said, for your ranges, I would take the Creed, if I was bent on getting a new rifle. It handles the long bullets a bit better, due to its design and gets nearly the same velocity as the .260.

Bottom line is that they will all do the job,


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Let me make a comment on needing room for reloading equipment. I have a Lee cast iron press mounted on a portable box, and the rest of my reloading equipment, including powder, primers, bullets, dies, scale, etc., fits in two paper boxes (you know, the ones ten reams of copy paper comes in). That takes up very little space, and since I'm reloading only once or twice every couple of weeks, the setup and takedown time is irrelevant. It probably adds about 5 minutes on each end to the entire process, and everything is stored neatly in one corner of my home study. So the necessity of having dedicated space isn't really an issue.


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That's a good idea. The problem is that I have a fly tying set-up, about 40+ fishing rods, 20 firearms, bows, plus camping gear, wall tents, tree stands, decoys, ice fishing gear, trapping gear, a dirt bike and safety gear, an atv, a mountain bike and all gear, extensive hunting clothing, tools, etc. in a 2700 square foot house in an urban area. Add the kids' toys and it is already overly cluttered. Because I live away from the woods, I spend a lot of time buying crap. Once my kids get older, I will probably find space for reloading.

This is just part of my basement: (my wife says I am a hoarder)


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Hahaha! Your wife says you're a hoarder...

My wife said that once, so we went down to the gun-store and I got a rifle for her...

Turned out to be the best trade I ever made...!!!

That is until the owner calls me up that evening and says, "You need to come get your wife. And by the way, you can keep the rifle, no charge."


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As mentioned earlier, Ron Spomer has a youtube video comparing the 260 and 7mm-08 to the 308 and how they best the 308.

He also put out an article, https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/25-06-remington-beats-6-5-creedmoor/

It just strikes me funny how you went. All of these cartridges have their virtues, I find it to be like pick-ups. Everyone claims their brand is the best, professing all others to be POS, for me it all comes down to which POS do I wanna drive around in?

I've killed several mule deer with 100 gr B-tips and 110 gr AB with the 257 WBY and the wife has used the same from her Roberts on mule deer. Sierra 100 gr GK or the Prohunters are lights out for antelope from a 25-06 and a 75 gr HP or VMAX, or 87 gr SP are a coyotes worst nightmare. For elk I used to run 120 gr Partitions in the 257 WBY and the same in the 25-06 would be a bad day for any elk short of whatever distance you can maintain consistent accuracy.


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I see little difference for what you are asking for. Both would work well. Hard to tell the difference in my opinion. Now, if you wanted longer range, better BC, or the other way if you wanted to shoot bigger game then one would be better than the other, in my opinion. Get the one you can get a better deal on.

Where I hunt is different than where you hunt, what I hunt is also different than what you hunt. So what would be better for me would be different than what would be better for you.


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Which are you most confident with? Go with that one.

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People who think 308 recoil is bad need to shoot some bigger guns.
Everyone thinks the worst recoil they have experienced is "bad".

I have a relatively light 300 Mag, it kicks. After a summer of shooting clays frequently, and spending some time patterning and sighting in an 870 turkey gun, that 300 suddenly didn't kick so hard.


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That's a good idea. The problem is that I have a fly tying set-up, about 40+ fishing rods, 20 firearms, bows, plus camping gear, wall tents, tree stands, decoys, ice fishing gear, trapping gear, a dirt bike and safety gear, an atv, a mountain bike and all gear, extensive hunting clothing, tools, etc. in a 2700 square foot house in an urban area. Add the kids' toys and it is already overly cluttered. Because I live away from the woods, I spend a lot of time buying crap. Once my kids get older, I will probably find space for reloading.

This is just part of my basement: (my wife says I am a hoarder)


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Originally Posted by seattlesetters
The 120s in the .260 will probably out-penetrate the 130s in the .308, will definitely fly flatter and farther and will recoil less in the process. Those are the only advantages I can think of but no deer will ever recognize them. An elk might, though, but not much.

If you want to compare apples to apples, go with the 100gr 6.5 TTSX in your .260.

I have owned both and if you handload I'd run a .260 all day and twice on Sunday over a .308 for the recoil reduction alone. And if the two bullet choices are 120 in 6.5 and 130 in .308, that 120 is going to run flatter and get deeper for more icing on the cake.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
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There's really no need to explain the finer points. The cartridge speaks for itself. It just flat out works.

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Is not a 260 a necked down 308?

How can a necked down 308 out preform a 308 at 70 yards?

I got short auctioned BLR and a long auctioned BLR I like the short action better.

I also think the more bottlenecked and restrictive you make the bore in relation to the case, the less efficient the powder charge becomes.

If I want long range splendor me thinks 25 06.

If I want utility me thinks 308

If I want to paint myself into a corner of limited versatility me thinks 260

If I want to kill the bear........... 358.


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I been pondering your deal today.

Perhaps a good solution in the BLR takedown would be the 284 Winchester. If it was in the short action models might be muey bueno 4 your deal.


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Availability, price, and variety of ammunition and bullets would favor a .308 for a hunting rifle. The .260 would obviously have ballistic benefits as a serious target cartridge.

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