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Some interesting tid bits when looking at the new Speer reloading data. Looks like there is at least new bullets coming out in 224, 6.5mm, 277 and 308 and maybe more. In the 6.5 Creedmoor section they list a new 140 gr bullet with a claimed b.c. of .571. A sleek bonded core bullet sounds pretty interesting to me.

https://www.speer-ammo.com/en/reloading/rifle


PS the 35 Whelen finally gets some real data from them too now.......

They list a 308 168 gr with a claimed b.c. of .572 and a 150 gr at .503.

Sounds interesting - wonder if we’ll ever see them?

PennDog

Wow. That’s great to see Speer getting back into the game.

That 35 Whelen data is pretty serious.

I guess that's good news. I wish they hadn't discontinued the .327 115 grain Gold Dot. They still catalog the 100 grain, but haven't made any in years.

The .375 RUM and the 285 grain Grand Slam loading info looks mighty interesting.

In the past Speer BC estimates were a bit....optimistic. So I wouldn't trust their listed BC numbers.

That being said, I really like the way their bullets perform on game, and am happy to see them getting with the program. Hopefully these Gold Dots will be readily available and not exist only in theory, like some of their more recent offerings.

ATK almost completely destroyed them so I hope they come back in a serious way, they were my go to bullets before they went off the rails and I ended up switching to Nosler mostly.

With the Whelen they list some new powders tat get some serious speed, 4 loads with their 220 that break 2740 fps comfortably and one even at 2826 fps. With the 250's 3 loads over 2600 fps and one of them even listed at 2709 fps!

https://www.speer-ammo.com/-/media/9fd0199f4b1046ceb34bd707f84d5af8.pdf

Some really decent options.

Absolutely no interest here until I hear of their performance, and more important the dedication to keep making them.
Not interested in developing loads for a bullet that is discontinued.

I would think that we've already heard of their performance, for a few years now. And it's been very good actually.

Oh yeah, it's called the Fusion bullet, loaded by Federal in factory ammo.

Wasn't that the Deep Shock, a!so?
Pretty hard to but those around here.

First was the Deep Shock line, introduced with much fanfare, and then dropped. Then there was the Deep Curl line of bullets, touted to replace the Hot Core line, then summarily dropped.

Count me amount the “wait and see” crowd.

Different management, ATK was in charge if I remember correctly when all those things happened.

As DD says they've been around for a while in loaded ammo and seem to have a good track record on game. I know that a lot of ballistic testing has been done for the .223 version because it's defensive ammo, gets used by LE, and performs well in that context.

Deep Shok were a completely different line of bullets, primarily made as normal cup-n-core with better heel locks and stiff jackets midway down the bullet. In the 243-90 grain they are absolute dominant deer killers.

Deep Curl, then Fusion, now to include Gold Dot, rifle bullets are made by electro-chemically bonding the jacket to the core. Works very well also in the 243-95 grain and the 223-64 grain.

I would assume that most know the 223 version Gold Dots have been in production under that actual label for a few years now in 55, 64, and 75 grain bullets. They are also stone-cold deer killers, but I think are issued under a law-enforcement moniker.

Great to see data on the 338 win mag and RL 16, 23, AND 26.
It confirms my own data that I was using.

Yea, I like the new RL data in several of the calibers and the heavy .22 bullet caught my eye, will be interesting to see if that BC is accurate coupled with bonded bullet performance.

“Personal protection rifle bullets?!” That’s laughably idiotic! I’m very glad that Speer might finally be doing things for handloaders again. They have been my first choice for most things for a long time. That marketing schtick just has to go, though.

Thanks for the link, Gerry! I've been looking for several of these powders in several of these cartridges, like CFE in the Whelen, and R-26 in 30-06.

I used a 64 Fusion from RMR in a 223 bolt gun loaded to 5.56 pressure with CFE (Fed 205 and 27.5gr in Win brass) this year to kill a big-bodied 4x3 Muley. Angling away at about 70 yds. Bullet impacted middle of ribs and angled through, destroying the top of the heart and exiting through the center of the off-side shoulder. Perfect performance. Buck was walking at the shot, and managed a few more steps before dropping.