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interesting read

The water has never been clearer than it has now - and that's not a good thing


Decades ago, Lake Michigan teemed with nutrients and green algae, casting a brownish-green hue that resembled the mouth of an inland river rather than a vast, open-water lake.

Back then, the lake’s swampy complexion was less than inviting to swimmers and kayakers, but it supported a robust fishing industry as several commercial companies trawled for perch, and sport fishermen cast their lines for trout. But in the past 20 years, Lake Michigan has undergone a dramatic transformation.

In analyzing satellite images between 1998 and 2012, researchers at the Michigan Tech Research Institute were surprised to find that lakes Michigan and Huron are now clearer than Lake Superior. In a study published late last year, the researchers say limiting the amount of agricultural and sewage runoff in the lake has had an immense impact. However, the emergence of invasive mussels, which number in the trillions and have the ability to filter the entire volume of Lake Michigan in four to six days, has had an even greater effect.

“When you look at the scientific terms, we are approaching some oceanic values,” said Michael Sayers, a research engineer at Michigan Tech and co-author of the study. “We have some ways to go, but we are getting a lot closer to Lake Tahoe. A lot of times, you’ll hear from people that the water is so blue it compares to something in tropical areas.”

While appealing, the clarity comes at a significant cost to wildlife. In filtering the lake, the mussels have decimated the phytoplankton, a single-celled, green algae that serves as the base of the food chain. For much of the past decade, prey fish, like alewives, have remained at historic lows, prompting state managers to scale back the annual stocks of prized predators, such as king salmon.

The startling evolution has called into question the future of Great Lakes marine life and the region’s $7 billion fishing industry.

“Clearer is not necessarily better,” said Robert Shuchman, co-director of the Michigan Tech Research Institute. “Clearer water means less phytoplankton in the water column, and they’re the basic building block in the food web. The idea is, the little fish eat algae, and the bigger fish eat the little fish.

“There are some folks out there now that think Lake Michigan and Huron could become ecological deserts from a fishing standpoint. The food web could totally collapse because you don’t have the various organisms you need to sustain it.”

For ages, the phytoplankton fed the zooplankton, which were eaten by small, foraging fish. As the fast-filtering mussels reduce the plankton populations, there isn’t enough food to support the diet of many foraging fish. In addition, there’s not enough plankton or nutrients clouding the water to hide these small prey fish from predator fish.

“It’s a game of hide-and-seek in a brightly lit environment,” said Henry Vanderploeg, a research ecologist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
A different approach to fishing

After years of working aboard a relative’s charter boat, Rick Bentley was leaving the fishing industry in the early ’90s to pursue a career in finance when the mussels began arriving.

“A lot of people were sounding massive alarms about how the mussels could change everything,” recalled Bentley, 46.

Their fears turned out to be prophetic. As the water cleared up, the fish cleared out. Since the introduction of the mussels, there’s been a sharp decline in nearly all fish species in Lake Michigan, including king salmon, scientists say.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...chigan-water-clarity-20180126-story.html


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once humans began to populate, and then overpopulate the earth, then things began to change.

economic ecology is one phrase that can be used to describe where we are.

nobody, and i mean nobody knows how to fix anything anymore.

but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try, right. for the people.


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Might be the same mussels they are worried about here.
Lotta mandatory inspections for tiger mussels at Colorado waters.

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Originally Posted by kellory
I get paid to fix things every day. It's what I do.


How would you fix this problem?



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Another big problem is now the sun reaches to much greater depths and the algae covers things much deeper now.


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by kellory
I get paid to fix things every day. It's what I do.


How would you fix this problem?


it's not a problem, it's a blessing, an opportunity?

it would be so good, so wonderful to see some long-term planning enter into the equation.


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Sounds like these mussels should be given jobs in sewage treatment. I'm sure someone already thought of that...wonder what they learned.


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Forty - fifty plus years ago Lamprey Eels had pretty much decimated Lake Trout in Lake Michigan. Even much smaller yellow perch would sometimes have deep sores from where Lampreys had been attached eating on them.

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We just got them in our local lakes last year. It will be interesting to see how things change.



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You can thank those who import exotic species for aquarium fans, lack of state/federal regulation and folks who dump their aquarium in the nearest water body when they grow tired of it.

-Hint- Don't swim in Dade County, FL canals....they have piranha....

And be careful trimming your hedges in the same area, we have green mambas.

Always wanted to catch someone doing that if only because I'd like to see what happens when you shoot an [bleep] with birdshot.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan

And be careful trimming your hedges in the same area, we have green mambas.




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Maybe the mussels will remove all the mercury in the great lakes.

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A lot of this invasive crap is the result of foreign vessels dumping their ballast water in the Great Lakes. Eurasian milfoil, zebra mussels (the topic of this thread), the round-nosed goby and on and on. Basically, these issues are from being global on a shipping level.


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Originally Posted by bruinruin
these issues are from being global on a shipping level.


Exactly where it all started.


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I remember my first trip to Lake Superior and being blown away at how clear the water was.

Now I read that is not a good thing


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ok, so the mussels eventually compete for algae which is no longer there and they die off. mother nature balance things if given a chance.

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The story is, the sparrows came on sailing ships from England. No answers here.


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The story is, the sparrows came on sailing ships from England. No answers here.


Just to be clear there's about twenty or more species of Native sparrows.

House Sparrows belong to the African weaverbird family, North Africa being where they presumably originated.

Essentially the are house mice with wings, adaptable, omnivorous and smart (for a sparrow). They are almost never found anywhere where there are no humans and they scavenge around human activity, usually placing their nests on human-made structures. They are found everywhere where humans live from Iceland, Alaska and the Yukon south to New Zealand.

They were brung here on purpose into NYC in the late 19th Century in the belief they would eat damaging insects. Actually, if they weren't so damaging to bluebirds and other cavity-nesting Natve species no one would really care.


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Originally Posted by m1rifleman
ok, so the mussels eventually compete for algae which is no longer there and they die off. mother nature balance things if given a chance.


They die back, but as soon as the algae makes a comeback so do they. Nature works on competition, and they out compete everything else.

Probably there is a huge amount of research right now on what predators and diseases keep them in check back in Russia.


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