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Is anti-Semite a weaponized word? Is racist a weaponized word? Is Conspiracy a weaponized word? Who were these communists who took over Russia and the Ukraine? Who were the Bolsheviks? How many "forgotten" races died in Nazi prison camps that were'nt Jews? How many non survivors were there other than Jews? Who were the SS? Who started the OSS? Who started the CIA. Who funded the Bolsheviks? Who funded the Nazis? Who were the Warburgs? How many Armenians were murdered? How many Russians were murdered? Who was Karl Marx? Who owns the Bank of America? Who owns the Bank of Germany? Who owns the Bank of England? Who owns the Bank of Italy? Is the Bank of France owned by French? Who funded the Nazi movement? Are their ancestors still around? Who are their ancestors? Who is the ADL? Who is the SPLC? Who is Stormfront? Who are the Aryans? What country calls itself Aryan?



What you wrote my sound like a cogent response to you. However, from this Cincinnati Krathead's POV it sounds more like this:

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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I guess the terror and horror 15-year-old Anne Frank experienced and expressed in her diary was also an "obvious hoax?"


That's more jewry...

https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/anne-frank-hoax-exposed/

Any one else notice how angry and rabid those are who attack TRH and others who know the Truth and not just the jewish tales of woe? Indoctrination and Propaganda is an easy pill to swallow, but searching for and exposing the Truth is astronomically more difficult.

It requires a long journey that few are willing to travel. It's not something that can simply be handed to someone in whole form.


This is from the same guy who tried to tell us that Masons are Devil Worshipers.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by BALLISTIK
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I guess the terror and horror 15-year-old Anne Frank experienced and expressed in her diary was also an "obvious hoax?"


That's more jewry...

https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/anne-frank-hoax-exposed/

Any one else notice how angry and rabid those are who attack TRH and others who know the Truth and not just the jewish tales of woe? Indoctrination and Propaganda is an easy pill to swallow, but searching for and exposing the Truth is astronomically more difficult.

It requires a long journey that few are willing to travel. It's not something that can simply be handed to someone in whole form.


This is from the same guy who tried to tell us that Masons are Devil Worshipers.

Read "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike. I have. The whole thing. You'll read that the God the Masons worship is Lucifer. You can make an argument that Lucifer and the Devil are not the same being, but Christians don't see it thus. You'll read that the higher levels of Masons focus on rituals that call forth and command angels, spirits, demons. Christians consider that blasphemy and witchcraft. This is the goal of their order: to gain temporal power by commanding otherworldly forces in order to follow in Lucifer's footsteps. Read the [bleep] book, and STFU.


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I must admit I dont understand the level of pure HATRED directed at some here for not caring for a specific breed of people. crazy


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Originally Posted by JamesJr

It is a fact that there have many instances of genocide in the world, going as far back as the records will take us. To deny that the Holocaust happened, is something kin to deny that the sun rises every morning. It happened......there is just too much proof to even begin to deny it. But , here is my problem with it.......in the years leading up to WW2, during the war, and in the years after it, Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Communists killed more people than Hitler and the Germans even thought about killing, yet we rarely hear about that.



You can add Pol Pot in Vietnam and Mao in China to your list.

The only thing I can come up with as to how things are perceived is that the Nazis were totally defeated by WW2 and their ideology literally outlawed. Communism on the other hand emerged from the war as a surviving ideology and to this day is not without power and influence all over the world. It has tons of it. We see it in the U.S., as what we call "liberals" control the media and education, and liberals are nothing more than commies biding their time.

Case in point, the crapstorm in Charlottesville last summer. What you essentially had were Commies and Nazis brawling in the streets just like they did in places like Berlin between the two world wars. The commies, (ANTIFA) and their useful idiots were portrayed in our very own media in a much more positive light than were the Nazis and there useful idiots. Since Trump got elected we have literally had commies burning up and breaking stuff all over the country and they have pretty much gotten a pass over it. The cops just stood around and watched. You take the same idiots and put swastikas on them and let them start the same crap and the cops would have dropped the hammer. Why? Because ANTIFA pulls their crap in cities controlled by commie "cough cough" I mean democrats. Have you noticed what the ANTIFA types call Republicans? Why Nazis of course. Talk about a weaponized word. Commies in the U.S. are running the same playbook that they did back in the day when they took over Russia.

To understand the world today, you have to understand WW2. To understand WW2 you have to understand WW1 and the treaty of Versailles which screwed over Germany and their economy. You have to also understand the Commie revolutions....they took over in places like Russia and China. They tried to take over everywhere, even the U.S. My knowledge of all these things is rudimentary. We basically get taught in school that the Nazis were bad, they tried to take over the world, and "we" kicked their asses....end of story. It has to be more to it than that and history is always written by the winners. It would take a lot of dedicated study to wade through all the propaganda and most regular people such as myself don't have the time. For instance, I don't know or understand the difference between what was German national socialism and Soviet communism. Germany and Russia were allies and one point, and then Hitler decided to jump them.

I can ride about 20 miles up the road and visit with a local hero and WW2 veteran of the 101st Airborne who went through all of WW2 and managed not to get killed or even wounded by some miracle. He saw the camps, or at least some of them. He will tell you it was no hoax. I believe him. The Nazis were bad news. The commies still are but there are enough of them that they have good PR. That is how I distill it all down with my peanut brain.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
I must admit I dont understand the level of pure HATRED directed at some here for not caring for a specific breed of people. crazy

They've been programmed since childhood (All of us have, but some overcome it). This has become a Pavlovian response for them, and they have no idea why.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by gunner500
I must admit I dont understand the level of pure HATRED directed at some here for not caring for a specific breed of people. crazy

They've been programmed since childhood (All of us have, but some overcome it). This has become a Pavlovian response for them, and they have no idea why.


I have to believe that, there's no other reason for their vapid defense for a people that DGAF about them.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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I must admit I dont understand the level of pure HATRED directed at some here for not caring for a specific breed of people. crazy

They've been programmed since childhood (All of us have, but some overcome it). This has become a Pavlovian response for them, and they have no idea why.


I have to believe that, there's no other reason for their vapid defense for a people that DGAF about them.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by K22
Why do we never hear about the astronomical amount of Lutherans who were rounded up first by the Nazis?


Is this a rhetorical question?


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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by BALLISTIK
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
I guess the terror and horror 15-year-old Anne Frank experienced and expressed in her diary was also an "obvious hoax?"


That's more jewry...

https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/anne-frank-hoax-exposed/

Any one else notice how angry and rabid those are who attack TRH and others who know the Truth and not just the jewish tales of woe? Indoctrination and Propaganda is an easy pill to swallow, but searching for and exposing the Truth is astronomically more difficult.

It requires a long journey that few are willing to travel. It's not something that can simply be handed to someone in whole form.


This is from the same guy who tried to tell us that Masons are Devil Worshipers.

Read "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike. I have. The whole thing. You'll read that the God the Masons worship is Lucifer. You can make an argument that Lucifer and the Devil are not the same being, but Christians don't see it thus. You'll read that the higher levels of Masons focus on rituals that call forth and command angels, spirits, demons. Christians consider that blasphemy and witchcraft. This is the goal of their order: to gain temporal power by commanding otherworldly forces in order to follow in Lucifer's footsteps. Read the [bleep] book, and STFU.


Albert Pike And Lucifer - MasonicWorld.com
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The story about Albert Pike and Lucifer, however, is a lie that will not die. Gabriel Antoine Jogand-Pages (writing as Leo Taxil) conceived the hoax and designed it …


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Hitler's rise to power was while complaining about the "top 2%", which was dog whistle for "Jews".


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Originally Posted by shaman
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Is anti-Semite a weaponized word? Is racist a weaponized word? Is Conspiracy a weaponized word? Who were these communists who took over Russia and the Ukraine? Who were the Bolsheviks? How many "forgotten" races died in Nazi prison camps that were'nt Jews? How many non survivors were there other than Jews? Who were the SS? Who started the OSS? Who started the CIA. Who funded the Bolsheviks? Who funded the Nazis? Who were the Warburgs? How many Armenians were murdered? How many Russians were murdered? Who was Karl Marx? Who owns the Bank of America? Who owns the Bank of Germany? Who owns the Bank of England? Who owns the Bank of Italy? Is the Bank of France owned by French? Who funded the Nazi movement? Are their ancestors still around? Who are their ancestors? Who is the ADL? Who is the SPLC? Who is Stormfront? Who are the Aryans? What country calls itself Aryan?



What you wrote my sound like a cogent response to you. However, from this Cincinnati Krathead's POV it sounds more like this:


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I take it you can't answer the questions.

What race were many of Hitler's cabinet. What race was Adolf Eichmann? Did he have a job in Eastern Europe? Were the Bolsheviks communists? What race of people did they try and annihilate in Russia? Who were the Hebrews? Who were the Jews? What did Jesus say about the Jews. What did John the Revelator say about the Jews. Who are the true Jews? Are there impostors? Who are wheat? Who are the tares? Can they look the same? Can you know them by their fruit? Who is George Soros?

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Holocaust denial is an attempt to negate the established facts of the Nazi genocide of European Jewry. Holocaust denial and distortion are forms of antisemitism. They are generally motivated by hatred of Jews and build on the claim that the Holocaust was invented or exaggerated by Jews as part of a plot to advance Jewish interests.

These views perpetuate long-standing antisemitic stereotypes, hateful charges that were instrumental in laying the groundwork for the Holocaust. Holocaust denial, distortion, and misuse all undermine the understanding of history.
The Nazi persecution of the Jews began with hateful words, escalated to discrimination and dehumanization, and culminated in genocide. The consequences for Jews were horrific, but suffering and death was not limited to them. Millions of others were victimized, displaced, forced into slave labor, and murdered. The Holocaust shows that when one group is targeted, all people are vulnerable.

They deny the Holocaust so that they can attract followers to a new Nazi movement.

Holocaust denial, then, unites a broad range of radical right-wing hate groups in the United States and elsewhere, ranging from Ku Klux Klan segregationists to skinheads seeking to revive Nazism to radical Muslim activists seeking to destroy Israel.

Holocaust deniers want to debate the very existence of the Holocaust as a historical event. They want above all to be seen as legitimate scholars arguing a historical point. They crave attention, a public platform to air what they refer to as “the other side of the issue.” Because legitimate scholars do not doubt that the Holocaust happened, such assertions play no role in historical debates. Although deniers insist that the idea of the Holocaust as myth is a reasonable topic of debate, it is clear, in light of the overwhelming weight of evidence that the Holocaust happened, that the debate the deniers proffer is more about antisemitism and hate politics than it is about history.


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Since all the facts are so well supported in the historical record, why is it a crime punishable by imprisonment in many countries to question any of the particulars of it? Link

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I know there are real conspiracies, but basing your entire belief system on conspiracy theories is bad business. I further believe that there is one very large and important conspiracy afoot---and that has led to the mass production of so many conspiracy theories that we are inundated with so much of it, we can't tell which ones are true and which ones are not. That's actually kind of a joke. I think.

I do not for a moment believe that Eisenhower participated in a conspiracy to promote such a huge "deception" as the Holocaust. There were too many people who witnessed the aftermath at the camps, and there's no way the truth could have been silenced. It's ironic that 70 years later, more will buy into the conspiracy theories. It's more ironic yet considering what Gobbels said about a lie repeated often enough.


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Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by K22
Why do we never hear about the astronomical amount of Lutherans who were rounded up first by the Nazis?


Is this a rhetorical question?



Lutheran Church During WWII
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The Lutheran Church was the dominant Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s, and was an important part of German culture and history. Like all other national organizations and symbols, the Nazi Party aimed to integrate German Christianity within the Third Reich. The rise of the Nazi Party and its cooptation of the church split the Lutheran community in two.
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Many Lutherans who opposed the Nazis found themselves in prisons or concentration camps during the war. Martin Niemoller, a Lutheran priest and one of the most outspoken members of the Confessing Church, was arrested twice. When arrested the second time in 1938, Hitler had him sent to the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp, where he spent seven years before being liberated by the allies at the end of the war. Initially supportive of the Nazi Party as a movement for national rejuvenation, Niemoller came to oppose the state’s interference in the church and its cruelty towards the Jews.
Niemoller was especially critical of the failure of the German people to speak out against the Nazis, famously describing it this way: “First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”


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[quote=BOWSINGER][/quote]
Or you could read Pike's writings yourself, and find out for yourself. Or keep taking other people's word for things.

Some of us PREFER to come to our own conclusions, because we are responsible, confident thinkers who trust in our own intellect over that of the drooling morons around us. Why you choose that other group to embrace is beyond me, but then again, I have an IQ of 150. It doesn't help me grasp "stupid" though.


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Ursula Haverbeck From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Ursula Hedwig Meta Haverbeck-Wetzel (born 8 November 1928) is a German author from Vlotho, Germany.[1][2] Since 2004, she has also been the subject of lawsuits due to her Holocaust denial[1][2][3][4][5] which in Germany is against the law.

Her husband was Werner Georg Haverbeck (de), who during the Nazi period was temporarily engaged in the national leadership of the Nazi Party, founder and director in 1933 of the German Imperial Federation of Nation and Homeland (de), as well as writer and publisher, historian, folklorist and parson of The Christian Community.[1] From 1982 he was also on the Scientific Advisory Board of the Ecological-Democratic Party (ÖDP) and party member.

In November 2015, at the age of 87, she was sentenced to ten months' imprisonment for Holocaust denial.[6] Several additional convictions in the fall of 2016 led to further such sentences. She has still never spent a day in prison, because she is still appealing all sentences[7][8]...



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Right-wing extremism
Well before Germany's reunification in 1990, Haverbeck-Wetzel cultivated connections to right-wing political groups like the NPD (National Democratic Party of Germany) with the aim of a major national collective movement in Germany. This orientation intensified in the years following. It was probably via this path that around 2000 she became acquainted with the Neo-nazi lawyer Horst Mahler. From this she became active as member and deputy director of the "Society for the Rehabilitation of Those Persecuted for Refutation of the Holocaust" (German Verein zur Rehabilitierung der wegen Bestreitens des Holocaust Verfolgten (de)),[2] which was founded in Vlotho on 9 November 2003, the anniversary of Kristallnacht. Chaired by the Swiss Holocaust denier Bernhard Schaub. Additionally, almost all well-known Holocaust deniers, including Ernst Zündel (Canada), Robert Faurisson (France), Germar Rudolf, Jürgen Graf, Gerd Honsik, Wilhelm Stäglich, Fredrick Toben (Australia), Andres Studer, Hans-Dietrich Sander, Manfred Roeder, Frank Rennicke and Anneliese Remer were also involved in its establishment. The organization was subsequently banned in May 2008 by the German Federal Ministry of the Interior (Bundesministerium des Innern) on the grounds of being hostile to the constitution of Germany....


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