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I had not posted on this thread until now. However, some of the comments are just too much "over the top."

First, everyone has a right to express his/her own opinions. It's a free country. TRH, K22, and Whip, among others, have a right to be ignorant and stupid.

Now you know my opinion!

Some ridiculous things gotten posted here. The holocaust actually did happen. 6,000,000 Jews (give or take) were killed by a deliberate government policy to wipe out a whole race.

The Jews or Israelis have NEVER said that murdering of Jews should be more remembered than other groups targeted for extermination, like the Gypsies killed by Germany, the Armenians killed by the Turks in 1915, and others.

Communism is NOT an offshoot of Judaism. Anyone who thinks so should explain the background of Josef Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. Hey! Those guys didn't keep kosher.

As for Patton, he was relieved of command at least twice for being an azz. If we had launched a world war against the USSR in 1945, a war in which our casualties probably would have exceeded our casualties in WWII, how many seconds do you think it would have taken for President Truman to be impeached? Oh yes. then we would have had to pacify Russia. Just look at how successful we have been pacifying Iraq or Afghanistan! Patton was an anti-Semite. So what? Hitler was too. And TRH, apparently.

Then we have the old "destroy all the Jews because the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense. Sirs, Jesus was executed by the Roman Army, under the command of the Roman governor of that province. Some Jews agreed with that. Some disagreed. Ever heard of Palm Sunday? Duh. In general the ones closely allied with the Roman government agreed and the people didn't. How do I know? Ever read the New Testament?

And even if they did, what kind of idiot would hold someone born in the 20th century responsible for some crime committed by a distant ancestor 2000 years ago?

And at last we come to the question of why so many Jews are prominent in business, finance, government, and the like. It happens to be a fact that Ashkenazi Jews (that is, European ones) have IQs about 15 points above other Caucasians on average. Now all, but average. That would explain why many of them excel in various things. (Israelis have won 192 Nobel Prizes for achievement in the Sciences, excluding the feel good ones, like the Peace Prize won by Obama. Citizens of all 57 Moslem nations have won exactly 3, but that's another subject.)

The 15-point IQ spread does not apply to all members of either group. Some are higher and some are lower. Reading some of these posts had convinced me that it might be 50 points for some in northern Florida.

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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I had not posted on this thread until now. However, some of the comments are just too much "over the top."

First, everyone has a right to express his/her own opinions. It's a free country. TRH, K22, and Whip, among others, have a right to be ignorant and stupid.

Now you know my opinion!

Some ridiculous things gotten posted here. The holocaust actually did happen. 6,000,000 Jews (give or take) were killed by a deliberate government policy to wipe out a whole race.

The Jews or Israelis have NEVER said that murdering of Jews should be more remembered than other groups targeted for extermination, like the Gypsies killed by Germany, the Armenians killed by the Turks in 1915, and others.

Communism is NOT an offshoot of Judaism. Anyone who thinks so should explain the background of Josef Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. Hey! Those guys didn't keep kosher.

As for Patton, he was relieved of command at least twice for being an azz. If we had launched a world war against the USSR in 1945, a war in which our casualties probably would have exceeded our casualties in WWII, how many seconds do you think it would have taken for President Truman to be impeached? Oh yes. then we would have had to pacify Russia. Just look at how successful we have been pacifying Iraq or Afghanistan! Patton was an anti-Semite. So what? Hitler was too. And TRH, apparently.

Then we have the old "destroy all the Jews because the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense. Sirs, Jesus was executed by the Roman Army, under the command of the Roman governor of that province. Some Jews agreed with that. Some disagreed. Ever heard of Palm Sunday? Duh. In general the ones closely allied with the Roman government agreed and the people didn't. How do I know? Ever read the New Testament?

And even if they did, what kind of idiot would hold someone born in the 20th century responsible for some crime committed by a distant ancestor 2000 years ago?

And at last we come to the question of why so many Jews are prominent in business, finance, government, and the like. It happens to be a fact that Ashkenazi Jews (that is, European ones) have IQs about 15 points above other Caucasians on average. Now all, but average. That would explain why many of them excel in various things. (Israelis have won 192 Nobel Prizes for achievement in the Sciences, excluding the feel good ones, like the Peace Prize won by Obama. Citizens of all 57 Moslem nations have won exactly 3, but that's another subject.)

The 15-point IQ spread does not apply to all members of either group. Some are higher and some are lower. Reading some of these posts had convinced me that it might be 50 points for some in northern Florida.

That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it.













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There's nothing that brings people together like a good holocaust thread.



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Can we get a itemized list of that 6,000,000?


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Originally Posted by DryPowder
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There's nothing that brings people together like a good holocaust thread.



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Can we get a itemized list of that 6,000,000?

If you give me a couple of days, I can produce the tally sheets not quite sixM but close enough.


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I don't know.

1825 days in 5 years.

That's 3287 a day,...7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for 5 years.

,...busy folks.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe

This man watches the news!,..by damn.

LOL. Ain’t that the truth. A man who’s swallowed everything ever fed to him by the powers that be.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by DryPowder
There's nothing that brings people together like a good holocaust thread.



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Can we get a itemized list of that 6,000,000?

If you give me a couple of days, I can produce the tally sheets not quite sixM but close enough.


Thanks Jorgel.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know.

1825 days in 5 years.

That's 3287 a day,...7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for 5 years.

,...busy folks.



There were 6 extermination camps so dividing your daily tally that averages less than 550 per day per extermination camp. That doesn’t include the roughly 30-40,000 concentration and “detention” camps. So let’s use your numbers and <ignorantly> assume that the concentration and detention camps had zero fatalities during the war and ONLY the extermination camps saw the death of Jews, gypsies and other German “undesirables”. It’s still relatively easy to kill 550 people per day. I don’t know if you’ve ever been east of Ocracoke but it you had seen in person the German efficiency of killing you might have a more informed opinion, otherwise you’re just another guy that got his “information” second, third and fourth hand....also known as a news educated, propaganda licking historian.


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Did hitler escape or commit "harry carry?"
And if he did escape, why didn't they catch his ass? They (USA) knew
Where he was and didn't give a fugg about it.

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Then we have the old "destroy all the Jews because the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense. Sirs, Jesus was executed by the Roman Army, under the command of the Roman governor of that province. Some Jews agreed with that. Some disagreed. Ever heard of Palm Sunday? Duh. In general the ones closely allied with the Roman government agreed and the people didn't. How do I know? Ever read the New Testament?














Yes, it was the Romans who crucified Jesus. But, Pilate said "I find no fault in this man" and was going to set him free, but the crowd said "crucify him, crucify him." Almost 2000 years after the death of Jesus, the Jews are still waiting for the Son of God to appear.......say what you want, but the Jews killed Jesus the Son of God, because they did not accept him for who he was.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Lithuania

"The Holocaust in Lithuania"

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...The Holocaust in Nazi-occupied Lithuania resulted in the near total destruction of Lithuanian Jews (Litvaks),[a] living in Generalbezirk Litauen of Reichskommissariat Ostland within the Nazi-controlled Lithuanian SSR. Out of approximately 208,000-210,000 Jews, an estimated 190,000–195,000 were murdered before the end of World War II (wider estimates are sometimes published), most between June and December 1941. More than 95% of Lithuania's Jewish population was massacred over the three-year German occupation — a more complete destruction than befell any other country affected by the Holocaust. Historians attribute this to the massive collaboration in the genocide by the non-Jewish local paramilitaries, though the reasons for this collaboration are still debated.[1][2][3][4] The Holocaust resulted in the largest-ever loss of life in so short a period of time in the history of Lithuania.[4]

The events that took place in the western regions of the USSR occupied by Nazi Germany in the first weeks after the German invasion, including Lithuania, marked the sharp intensification of the Holocaust.[5][6][7][b]

An important component to the Holocaust in Lithuania was that the occupying Nazi German administration fanned antisemitism by blaming the Soviet regime's recent annexation of Lithuania, a year earlier, on the Jewish community. Another significant factor was the large extent to which the Nazis' design drew upon the physical organization, preparation and execution of their orders by local Lithuanian auxiliaries of the Nazi occupation regime.[2][3]...



"Destruction of Lithuanian Jewry"

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...Estimated number of victims

Prior to the German invasion, the population of Jews was estimated to be about 210,000,[3] although according to data from the Lithuanian statistics department, as of 1 January 1941 there were 208,000 Jews.[4] This estimate, based on the officially accounted for prewar emigration within the USSR (approx. 8,500), the number of escapees from the Kaunas and Vilnius Ghettos, (1,500-2,000), as well as the number of survivors in the concentration camps when they were liberated by the Red Army, (2,000-3,000), puts the number of Lithuanian Jews murdered in the Holocaust at 195,000 to 196,000.[4] It is difficult to estimate the exact number of casualties of the Holocaust and the latter number cannot be final or indisputable. The numbers given by historians differ significantly ranging from 165,000 to 254,000, the higher number probably including non-Lithuanian Jews among other Reich (empirical) dissenters labeled as Jewish killed in Lithuania.[4]...



"The Holocaust events"

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...Chronologically, the genocide in Lithuania can be divided into three phases: phase 1) summer to the end of 1941; phase 2) December 1941 – March 1943; phase 3) April 1943 – mid-July 1944.[12] The Lithuanian port city of Klaipėda (Memel in German) had historically been a member of the German Hanseatic League, and had belonged to Germany and East Prussia prior to 1918. The city was semi-autonomous during the period of Lithuanian independence, and under League of Nations supervision. Approximately 8,000 Jews lived in Memel when it was absorbed into the Reich on March 15, 1939. Its Jewish residents were expelled, and most fled into Lithuania proper. In 1941, German killing squads, the Einsatzgruppen, followed the advance of the German army units and immediately began organizing the murder of Jews.[6]
Kaunas Ninth Fort

Most Lithuanian Jews perished in the first phase during the first months of the occupation and before the end of 1941. The first recorded action of the Einsatzgruppen (Einsatzgruppe A) took place on June 22, 1941, in the border town of Gargzdai (called Gorzdt in Yiddish and Garsden in German), which was one of the oldest Jewish settlements in the country and only 18 kilometres (11 mi) from German-annexed Memel. Approximately 800 Jews were shot that day in what is known as the Garsden Massacre. Approximately 100 non-Jewish Lithuanians were also executed, many for trying to aid their Jewish neighbors.[2][3] About 80,000 Jews were killed by October and about 175,000 by the end of the year.[2] The majority of Jews in Lithuania were not required to live in ghettos[c] nor sent to the Nazi concentration camps which at that time were just in the preliminary stages of operation. Instead they were shot in pits near their places of residence with the most infamous mass murders taking place in the Ninth Fort near Kaunas and the Ponary Forest near Vilnius.[6][13][14] By 1942 about 45,000 Jews survived, largely those who had been sent to ghettos and camps.[c] In the second phase, the Holocaust slowed, as Germans decided to use the Jews as forced labor to fuel the German war economy.[15] In the third phase, the destruction of Jews was again given a high priority; it was in that phase that the remaining ghettos and camps were liquidated.

Two factors contributed to the rapid destruction of Lithuanian Jewry. The first was the significant support for the "de-Jewification" of Lithuania coming from the Lithuanian populace.[11][15] The second was the German plan for early colonization of Lithuania – which shared a border with German East Prussia – in accordance with their Generalplan Ost; hence the high priority given to the extermination of the relatively small Lithuanian Jewish community.... [15]


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
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I don't know.

1825 days in 5 years.

That's 3287 a day,...7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for 5 years.

,...busy folks.



There were 6 extermination camps so dividing your daily tally that averages less than 550 per day per extermination camp. That doesn’t include the roughly 30-40,000 concentration and “detention” camps. So let’s use your numbers and <ignorantly> assume that the concentration and detention camps had zero fatalities during the war and ONLY the extermination camps saw the death of Jews, gypsies and other German “undesirables”. It’s still relatively easy to kill 550 people per day. I don’t know if you’ve ever been east of Ocracoke but it you had seen in person the German efficiency of killing you might have a more informed opinion, otherwise you’re just another guy that got his “information” second, third and fourth hand....also known as a news educated, propaganda licking historian.



Think again:

Most people are familiar with the names of the major concentration camps - Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, and Treblinka, for example - but few realize that these were not the only places where Jews and other prisoners were held by the Nazis. Each of the 23 main camps had subcamps, nearly 900 of them in total. These included camps with euphemistic names, such as “care facilities for foreign children,” where pregnant prisoners were sent for forced abortions.

The Nazis established about 110 camps starting in 1933 to imprison political opponents and other undesirables. The number expanded as the Third Reich expanded and the Germans began occupying parts of Europe. When the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum first began to document all of the camps, the belief was that the list would total approximately 7,000. However, researchers found that the Nazis actually established about 42,500 camps and ghettoes between 1933 and 1945. This figure includes 30,000 slave labor camps; 1,150 Jewish ghettoes, 980 concentration camps; 1,000 POW camps; 500 brothels filled with sex slaves; and thousands of other camps used for euthanizing the elderly and infirm; Germanizing prisoners or transporting victims to killing centers. Berlin alone had nearly 3,000 camps.

These camps were used for a range of purposes including: forced-labor camps, transit camps which served as temporary way stations, and extermination camps, built primarily or exclusively for mass murder. From its rise to power in 1933, the Nazi regime built a series of detention facilities to imprison and eliminate so-called "enemies of the state." Most prisoners in the early concentration camps were German Communists, Socialists, Social Democrats, Roma (Gypsies), Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals, and persons accused of "asocial" or socially deviant behavior. These facilities were called “concentration camps” because those imprisoned there were physically “concentrated” in one location.

Millions of people were imprisoned, abused and systematically murdered in the various types of Nazi camps. Under SS management, the Germans and their collaborators murdered more than three million Jews in the killing centers alone. Only a small fraction of those imprisoned in Nazi camps survived. As many as 15-20 million people may have died in the various camps and ghettoes.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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And it was never in OUR interest to award the Jews a homeland.



It wasn't in America's interest to become aligned with Stalin during WW2 either,...as evidenced by our brush with nuclear war with the Soviet Union 17 years after the end of WW2.

Thanks to the "Rosenbergs" (shalom) giving them America's nuclear technology.


Don't forget Klaus Fuchs. From Wikipedia. "Emil Julius Klaus Fuchs (29 December 1911 – 28 January 1988) was a German theoretical physicist and atomic spy who, in 1950, was convicted of supplying information from the American, British, and Canadian Manhattan Project to the Soviet Union during and shortly after the Second World War..."

And another communist and top Soviet spy, was Alger Hiss, head of the U.S. State Dept., and a great friend and advisor of FDR. Hiss funneled top secret information to his communist masters and also was tasked by FDR to write the Charter for the United Nations.

There were many Soviet spies systematically corrupting our government back in the FDR days ... and they and their spawn are still there.

The British had their fair share of communist traitors also beginning with the Cambridge Five, led by their chief communist traitor, Kim Philby, head of MI5. What a macabre joke!!

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Dog: I am FAR from being a jewish propagandist. In fact quite the opposite. I OPPOSED the formation of the state of Israel, but once established, I view it as a tool, first against the Soviets and now Islamic terror (and no I DO NOT buy into the bullshit that no Israel, no terror. These bastards have been trying to kill us since the Crusades when there was NO Israel. BUT...when brainwashed kooks like TRH say there was no holocaust, no gas chambers, etc it's not only patently absurd, but its an insult to the millions who died trying to stop this.


I still would like to know the casting dates of those gas chambers.

Indy, I don't believe I have stated that I deny that jews were killed in camps. What is your definition of a holocaust? I posted a lot of easy questions that went unanswered. Why. And that so that is enough to attempt to demonize me. How quaint.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe

This man watches the news!,..by damn.

LOL. Ain’t that the truth. A man who’s swallowed everything ever fed to him by the powers that be.


I certainly don't "swallow" everything "fed" to me by the "powers that be," whomever they may be.

I also don't swallow lies and misinformation fed to me on the Internet by uneducated low life bigots....whomever they may be.

If the shoe fits wear it.

If it doesn't, don't.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know.

1825 days in 5 years.

That's 3287 a day,...7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for 5 years.

,...busy folks.



There were 6 extermination camps so dividing your daily tally that averages less than 550 per day per extermination camp. That doesn’t include the roughly 30-40,000 concentration and “detention” camps. So let’s use your numbers and <ignorantly> assume that the concentration and detention camps had zero fatalities during the war and ONLY the extermination camps saw the death of Jews, gypsies and other German “undesirables”. It’s still relatively easy to kill 550 people per day. I don’t know if you’ve ever been east of Ocracoke but it you had seen in person the German efficiency of killing you might have a more informed opinion, otherwise you’re just another guy that got his “information” second, third and fourth hand....also known as a news educated, propaganda licking historian.


Okay,..lets have it your way,...3287 a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for 5 years in addition to all the rest.

And I'm being generous by calling it 5 years. Because whatever the Germans did, it wasn't going full tilt for 5 years.

In any event, Hitler was a deadbeat compared to Maoist Communism and the Bolsheviks in Russia. Nobody knows the exact number killed under the oriental Bolsheviks, but 45,000,000 to 65,000,000 is the number that's commonly encountered when you look into it.

,..about the same numbers you find when you look into the numbers killed by the Russian Bolsheviks,...55,000,000, or so.

In modern times, nobody has murdered huge numbers of people like the Communists,....and they're not finished yet,..so keep your powder dry.

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Dog: I am FAR from being a jewish propagandist. In fact quite the opposite. I OPPOSED the formation of the state of Israel, but once established, I view it as a tool, first against the Soviets and now Islamic terror (and no I DO NOT buy into the bullshit that no Israel, no terror. These bastards have been trying to kill us since the Crusades when there was NO Israel. BUT...when brainwashed kooks like TRH say there was no holocaust, no gas chambers, etc it's not only patently absurd, but its an insult to the millions who died trying to stop this.


I still would like to know the casting dates of those gas chambers.

Indy, I don't believe I have stated that I deny that jews were killed in camps. What is your definition of a holocaust? I posted a lot of easy questions that went unanswered. Why. And that so that is enough to attempt to demonize me. How quaint.

The Israelis main interest is getting rid of Iran. Some of the muslim countries are in the way and the Palestinians are still pissed about being forced to give up part of their country. So, who is Iran? What does the word Iran mean?
The Saudi Wahhabist was formed by the Israelis and is Israeli.
I don't think I would confuse Israelis with Israel.
If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and talks like a duck, then by golly I'll call it a duck unless it can prove its a cow.


If you want to know the definition of Holocaust, look it up in a dictionary. It's something about a government deliberately and systematically killing all members of a race or nationality.

And frankly I miss the point about the casting date of an oven. Who gives a damn? Go through all the thousands of pages of testimony, from the Nuremberg trials through all the later trials all the way up to just a year or two ago. It happened. It was deliberate. It exterminated (I believe the figure is) about 11,000,000 people--on purpose, including 3,500,000 Russian POWs (Hitler let them starve--cheaper than feeding them), a bunch of gypsies, and about 6,000,000 Jews.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
And it was never in OUR interest to award the Jews a homeland.



It wasn't in America's interest to become aligned with Stalin during WW2 either,...as evidenced by our brush with nuclear war with the Soviet Union 17 years after the end of WW2.

Thanks to the "Rosenbergs" (shalom) giving them America's nuclear technology.


Don't forget Klaus Fuchs. From Wikipedia. "Emil Julius Klaus Fuchs (29 December 1911 – 28 January 1988) was a German theoretical physicist and atomic spy who, in 1950, was convicted of supplying information from the American, British, and Canadian Manhattan Project to the Soviet Union during and shortly after the Second World War..."

And another communist and top Soviet spy, was Alger Hiss, head of the U.S. State Dept., and a great friend and advisor of FDR. Hiss funneled top secret information to his communist masters and also was tasked by FDR to write the Charter for the United Nations.

There were many Soviet spies systematically corrupting our government back in the FDR days ... and they and their spawn are still there.

The British had their fair share of communist traitors also beginning with the Cambridge Five, led by their chief communist traitor, Kim Philby, head of MI5. What a macabre joke!!

L.W.


Hey Leanwolf,

I hate to rain on your parade but I think you forget to mention that if it were not for JEWISH SCIENTISTS, many of whom had fled Europe in the 1930s (and a lot of non-Jewisn scientists), our country would not ever have had an atomic bomb int he first place.

Are you going to "blame the Jews" for the fact that we didn't lose 750,000 KIA invading Japan (Truman's estimate) because we dropped atom bombs instead?

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America has the situation of 1917 Russia on its doorstep,..and the people of America want to spend their time puking the propaganda associated with the last culture that took a stand against the Bolsheviks?

1939 Germany is done,...been done for quite a while.

Whatever you think about it doesn't matter.

It's 2018. Think for today and base your opinions on today.

America is probably done for. It'll be what it be at this point. But I'd hate to see it fold up while its people are ignorant as to "why". The answer is right outside your window. Just look.

The absolute minimum that a killed culture deserves is to know what killed it.

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